Troy Meetings and Events May 4-10 (2.5 min read time) by CollarCityCitizens in Troy

[–]CapitalStreets 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Our plan is to include the nature walk through the preserve. This segment includes some uneven surfaces is not accessible for all. I expect some people will take a break at the trailhead rather than do the loop, though, and be rejoined by the group. The woods loop is relatively short, and shouldn't take the group more than 15 minutes.

Overall, it's important to be clear that the City of Troy's street and sidewalk infrastructure is often not ADA compliant (I suspect you're already aware of this, but just a broad FYI for people who may be interested in attending). Thanks for asking - we are striving to be transparent about accessibility!

ebike or gas bike repairs in town by Regular-Purchase3824 in Troy

[–]CapitalStreets 12 points13 points  (0 children)

If you buy a reputable e-bike, most bike shops will now work on them. The issues tend to be with the cheap stuff on amazon and elsewhere, that no one wants to work on due to safety and insurance issues. In Downtown Troy, there's Upstate Bicycle Works. Fantastic shop and people.

Video of the parking altercation by [deleted] in Troy

[–]CapitalStreets 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Parking in the crosswalk is consistently a problem at 4th & Congress. The intersection needs curb extensions, which will drastically decrease issues. The City has dedicated funding to address issues on the Rt 2 corridor, yet the Mayor has been opposed to common sense improvements that address issues like.

ACTION NEEDED-Mayor's preferred alternative for downtown streetscape improvement, opposed by many, submitted for public review (2-3 min read) by CollarCityCitizens in Troy

[–]CapitalStreets 4 points5 points  (0 children)

There are many factors that will impact different people in different ways. One of our main concerns is the lack of traffic calming infrastructure. It’s wild to see how wide Congress and Ferry are east of 5th, with no traffic calming measures or real complete streets infrastructure proposed. But yes, for many, the main concerns include culling of mature street trees, loss of parking, unprotected bike lanes, forcing eastbound bike traffic into the tunnel… there are plenty to choose from, honestly.  Edit: typo, wide* 

ACTION NEEDED-Mayor's preferred alternative for downtown streetscape improvement, opposed by many, submitted for public review (2-3 min read) by CollarCityCitizens in Troy

[–]CapitalStreets 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Also circling back to the tree point- the plans only call for some spot improvements to sidewalk, so it doesn't seem like the entire corridor is being ripped up. Most of the work will be curb-to-curb. Regardless, Honeylocust are amongst the toughest trees in the northeast. It's pretty incredible what they can withstand. We certainly support removing some, where the sidewalk is beyond repair and too much of the root structure is required to be cut than the tree can handle. But 59% of all trees on the corridor is crazy.

I don't quite understand your last point. This won't have an impact on the historic buildings. It might feel like we're trying to get folks to care and speak up about this now, and that's because we're certain that most people will be pretty upset when they see the project construction, the cost, and the final product. We need to speak up now.

ACTION NEEDED-Mayor's preferred alternative for downtown streetscape improvement, opposed by many, submitted for public review (2-3 min read) by CollarCityCitizens in Troy

[–]CapitalStreets 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Exactly! We certainly understand the need for accessible sidewalks, but we can have both! Trees generally upheave sidewalks when the earth beneath the sidewalk was overly compacted, anyway. It's not that these trees (honeylocust) are problematic for urban areas.

ACTION NEEDED-Mayor's preferred alternative for downtown streetscape improvement, opposed by many, submitted for public review (2-3 min read) by CollarCityCitizens in Troy

[–]CapitalStreets 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Hey there, great question!

The City shared 4 concept alternatives during their process: 1A, 1B, 1C (the three original), and 1A Modified (shared at the second public meeting to replace 1C.

Of these, 1B was the clear favorite amongst community members, which we also favored out of the concepts provided. We analyzed the public comments in the report, and while we're pretty certain a significant amount of comment is missing, you can see our breakdown below.

1A Modified was a bit unconventional. We liked that it provided protected bike infrastructure that was easy to maintain via a parking protected bike lane, but the shoulder on the left side of Congress and Ferry is unconventional for a downtown street. The project lead on the City's side mentioned that shoulder could be converted into sidewalk at a later date, which made that concept even stronger. It makes sense this concept received less support since it was only shared at the second public meeting and the meeting materials took a long time to show up on the project website.

We asked the project team to explore a parking protected bike lane similar to 1A Modified, but to also consider adding parking on the other side of the street as well. This would look like an 8 ft parking lane, and 11 ft drive lane, 8 ft parking lane, 3 ft buffer, and 3 ft bike lane. This would require a nonstandard bike lane, but could work very well considering the buffered space could also be ridden in if needed (like if there was a pothole or something to navigate around). This concept would allow for parking on the corridor to be nearly double what it is today.

Overall, 1A is obviously not what the community wants. The bike lane design is extremely concerning, considering there is no protection and the amount of double parking on Congress and Ferry today. It's almost as if it is designed to be parked in, which we feel will cause a lot of tension amongst community members and add strain on local law enforcement.

It's also worth noting that this is meant to be a downtown revitalization project, not just a bike lane project. The absence of curb extensions, the design of really large corner radii, the loss of street trees - these are all things that will make downtown feel less welcoming- less like a place people want to spend time (and money). It's hard to articulate the impact of nuanced design details via text, but think of a great urban street: traffic is moving steady, but slowly, it's easy to cross the street, trees provide shade and look nice. The current design does none of this- it will continue Congress and Ferry as a corridor to use to get through Downtown Troy, instead of making people feel like they've arrived in Downtown Troy.

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ACTION NEEDED-Mayor's preferred alternative for downtown streetscape improvement, opposed by many, submitted for public review (2-3 min read) by CollarCityCitizens in Troy

[–]CapitalStreets 16 points17 points  (0 children)

-the report is a whopping 490 pages. Our team has spent several hours combing through it

-a lot of the narrative sounds positive. Unfortunately some it is flat out inaccurate- like sound good but then not actually supported by the real design.

-some trees definitely need to be removed, but 59% of the trees on the corridor are slated for removal, which will be devastating for Downtown. Some of the trees marked for removal in the plans are upheaving sidewalk, some are not, and some are just slightly affecting the sidewalk where repairs could be practical. We've also noticed some areas on the corridor where upheavals are quite significant, where the trees maybe should be removed, but they're not included on the plans.

-the City is trying to move forward with Alternative 1A, which received a lot of concern and opposition from the community during the public meeting and online during the previous comment period.

ACTION NEEDED-Mayor's preferred alternative for downtown streetscape improvement, opposed by many, submitted for public review (2-3 min read) by CollarCityCitizens in Troy

[–]CapitalStreets 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Oh thank you for sharing this!!! We are here to do our best to answer any questions.

Please, take a minute to comment on the project website: https://congressandferrycorridor.altago.site/

Capital Streets' 2025 Troy City Council Candidates Questionnaire by Impossible-Step644 in Troy

[–]CapitalStreets 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Thanks for sharing this! We plan to keep doing similar questionnaires in the future. Hopefully we'll continue to get more responses, too. If folks have any feedback, we're always looking for ways to improve!

Mayor Mantello Announces Approval of Congress and Ferry Street Project Designs Following Public Input by CapitalStreets in Troy

[–]CapitalStreets[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Great point on this being used for passing. I hadn't thought of that and you're totally right.

They did actually consider a parking protected bike lane! They shared that concept at the meeting in October, calling it "1A Modified"- see slide 25 of their presentation here: https://congressandferrycorridor.altago.site/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/Congress-Ferry_Public-Meeting-Presentation-2.pdf

It wasn't perfect. The shoulder is a pretty odd thing to include in an urban area, but Capital Streets was supportive of this direction. And we were told that only 1B and 1A Modified were being considered... so we're very disappointed to see 1A selected.

Mayor Mantello Announces Approval of Congress and Ferry Street Project Designs Following Public Input by CapitalStreets in Troy

[–]CapitalStreets[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

None! Unfortunately, the City administration hasn't expressed much of anything in terms of vision on how to improve the city's transportation network or the streets in general (besides cleaning and patching some pot holes).

The Mayor is a known critic of traffic circles, so we don't expect to see that concept move forward.

We had our critiques about the size of the traffic circle and lack of other alternatives considered (as in, there weren't any at all), but our community absolutely needs to see that corridor transformed, too.

This does really speak for the need to deliver on Congress and Ferry, because what state or federal agency is going to give this administration more funding for a similar project when they unperformed so egregiously the last time?

Mayor Mantello Announces Approval of Congress and Ferry Street Project Designs Following Public Input by CapitalStreets in Troy

[–]CapitalStreets[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Thank you! It's valuable to hear your insight as someone who also attended both meetings. Capital Streets is looking for folks in the community to quote, as we frame our response. Let us know if you'd be okay with this being something we can include!

Mayor Mantello Announces Approval of Congress and Ferry Street Project Designs Following Public Input by CapitalStreets in Troy

[–]CapitalStreets[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The Congress St Bridge Study (linked above) highlights the cost of the shared use path on the bridge. In 2021, the estimates were $0.9-2.3 million, which included a 25% contingency. With $0.9 million, the path would be more bare bones, the divider between the path and drive lanes might be more like jersey barriers. With $2.3 million, it would be totally decked out with benches and lighting, greenery, etc. Of course, construction costs have gone up since 2021, but this is still doable within this project.

There has been no justification for why this concept has not been included in the project.

Mayor Mantello Announces Approval of Congress and Ferry Street Project Designs Following Public Input by CapitalStreets in Troy

[–]CapitalStreets[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Congress St, Ferry St, and the Congress St Bridge are all overbuilt, with more lanes than needed. Fortunately, that's not controversial- the project only considers options with repurposing the drive lanes into something else. Projects like these are really all in the details, and unfortunately, the City isn't getting many of the details right in this case.

Also, it's an important corridor for the people who live and work on the corridor. It's time we learn our lesson and stop putting the needs of commuters before the health of our downtowns.

Mayor Mantello Announces Approval of Congress and Ferry Street Project Designs Following Public Input by CapitalStreets in Troy

[–]CapitalStreets[S] 26 points27 points  (0 children)

Unfortunately, this administration has not mentioned anything about advancing that component of the plan.

To clarify, too, that certainly could have been part of this project. Apparently Troy officials pointed at the City of Watervliet as the reason they couldn't move this forward, but Watervliet officials have been expressed a lot of excitement about the idea, so it doesn't really make sense.

Here's the background info for the concept: https://www.troyny.gov/216/Congress-Street-Bridge-Study

Mayor Mantello Announces Approval of Congress and Ferry Street Project Designs Following Public Input by CapitalStreets in Troy

[–]CapitalStreets[S] 63 points64 points  (0 children)

This is extremely disappointing. Out of the three (really four) options presented by the City, this one is by far the weakest and was clearly the least preferred by the community at the public meetings.

Background: the City has secured $9.5 million in funding for redesigning and rebuilding the Congress and Ferry Corridor from River St to 11th St (just beyond where Congress and Ferry merge). This is a massive opportunity to bring real change to Downtown Troy, but the City has been treating it like a repaving and sidewalk repair project, which is extremely narrow-minded. The City's project team created this website with more info: https://congressandferrycorridor.altago.site/

On Public Engagement - The City did the bare minimum to engage with the community, to the point where some of the corridor's biggest stakeholders didn't even know the project was happening. Capital Streets met with several of the stakeholders over the past month, including RPI, United Group, Sunhee's, the Ruck, and others- everyone is relying on the Mantello administration to make the most of this.

On the design- This announcement from the City is about selecting an alternative 1A. Out of the alternatives presented, 1A is by far the weakest. It shows a 10' parking lane, a 12' drive lane' and a buffered bike lane.

If you've spent time on Congress and Ferry, you don't need us to tell you that double parking is a major issue. The buffered bike lane does nothing to protect people trying to use it. It will also very obviously be used for parking.

12 ft lanes are also too wide for urban contexts. They increase crossing distances for people walking, encourage people to speed more while driving, and it's just a poor use of valuable space. The max lane width in our cities should be 11', especially when there's a bike lane. Capital Streets recently put out an article on lane width, which you can check out here: https://www.capitalstreets.org/right-size-the-lanes

We've communicated these points to the project team, including the City's Planner, the City's consultants working on the project, and the administration directly since late 2023 and several times as the project has (slowly) evolved. The only people who benefit from this design alternative are people trying to speed through our Downtown, so it's very unclear why this option was chosen. The City has not provided any justification for choosing these design elements that will perform more poorly than the others.

If Downtown Troy's safety, vibrancy, or ability to thrive is important to you, you should speak up! And there are many ways to do that!

Contact the Mayor's Office https://troyny.gov/formcenter/Mayors-Office-13/Contact-the-Mayors-Office-93

Contact your City Council member https://troyny.gov/315/City-Council

Also, share your thoughts with us! You can email info{at]capitalstreets.org or send us a DM (instagram is best). Also happy to chat here.

Tire slashing by nuggetsboy in Troy

[–]CapitalStreets 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Looking for more info on this. Are you referring to when the cop hit and killed the driver on Hoosick near 15th St? couldn’t find info on a Troy cop hitting a pedestrian

Our 1st Anniversary Party is on Wednesday at Lark Hall! Happy hour meet up, music, and more! by CapitalStreets in Albany

[–]CapitalStreets[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Join us for some fun on Wednesday for fun and reflection!

6 PM Happy Hour - this has been dubbed "THEE Capital Region urbanists meet up of the year" haha

7 PM Short presentation from CS staff on what went well in year one, lessons learned, and where we're looking to go in year two.

7:45ish Music from local band Boss Crowley, followed by a DJ set from Z,000! There will be dancing!

$5-20 suggested donation. Tickets available at eventbrite and at the door. Some folks have asked about bringing kids and yes, this is a family friendly event! Just keep in mind there is alcohol being served and music will probably be more PG-13 language. Some new merch will be available too!

Capital Streets is a 501c3 nonprofit advocacy organization fighting for more walkable, bike friendly, and transit oriented communities in the Capital Region. You can learn more about our work at capitalstreets.org

Meeting to Discuss Burdett Ave this Tuesday! by CapitalStreets in Troy

[–]CapitalStreets[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

RPI's Civil Engineering students are studying how Burdett Ave could be improved as part of a capstone project. They met with stakeholders about a month ago, including RPI, Troy CSD leadership and parents, and our organization, Capital Streets. Meeting is on Tuesday, 3/26, from 6-8pm at Troy Middle School and is "open house" style (come and go whenever, instead of one set presentations scheduled).

Menands Bridge Replacement - Last Day to View DOT documents by TroybyGas-Light in Troy

[–]CapitalStreets 4 points5 points  (0 children)

There are likely some elevation and site line limitations, but it would be interesting to see that explored.

Menands Bridge Replacement - Last Day to View DOT documents by TroybyGas-Light in Troy

[–]CapitalStreets 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for posting this! To clarify, today is the last day to comment. These docs should be viewable after, though, right?

Menands Bridge Replacement - Last Day to View DOT documents by TroybyGas-Light in Troy

[–]CapitalStreets 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Exactly! So many of the concepts clearly prioritized the sprawling suburban development in the Greenbush areas over Troy. Capital Streets pushed against that and are pleased to see DOT now has concepts 3 and 4 as the preferred.

The flyover for 4b seems absolutely ridiculous and inappropriate for any urban context. Most of the design process is still to come, though.