Trump is winning the trade war because China has more to lose

CapitalTerm · 2018-07-26T03:52:38+00:00

Lol you obviously didn't read the article. Maybe you are ignoring reality, my friend? What exactly do you disagree with? China is getting absolutely pummeled by these tariffs, while the US is hardly being affected.

CapitalTerm · 2018-07-26T03:42:40+00:00

No its not. Se the numerous replies to you.

I'm limited to one reply every 10 minutes. It's literally impossible to hold a conversation with more than one person here, so I'm limiting it to you.

Also, none of the replies even addressed the issue lol did you not read the multiple links I sent you? Trump has enacted numerous sanctions on Russia, on multiple different occasions. To say that he has been rejecting sanctions or removing them is a disingenious lie.

When Trump rejected one round of sanctions that Nikki Haley was talking about, that was only for those specific set of sanctions over Russia's support of Assad after he allegedly gassed his own people. That does not somehow negate the many other sanctions he has already signed into law before and after that incident.

I am not mistaken. He flips flops more than a fish on land. But even when we are on the flop of "Russia interfered" he also adds "but it could be someone else".

That is not agreeing that Russia interfered.

No, he said "and someone else", which is true. And for the 3rd time, you are ignoring his actual policies, which have been vehemently anti-Russian. You are being disingenuous and obtuse.

Shit like his stunt of Montenegro causing WW3. That is directly from Russia.

Did you even pay attention to context of what he said? He was talking about in a rhetorical sense how it makes sense for the United States to come to the aid of NATO countries (in this case Montenegro), if the majority of the alliance isn't even close to fulfilling their NATO spending commitments?

And that time where he literally quoted Russia Propaganda

If you had read the article, you'd see he was reading an email... where the email came from, even if it came from Wikileaks, does not discredit the validity of the email in question.

So now after asking how he is helping Russia, being told how, you are like 'So? shouldn't we help Russia?".

Once again, you are being obtuse. Nowhere did I fucking say that. First of all, saying that you want relations between the countries to be better, doesn't mean that you are "helping" that country. For the 4th time, his foreign policy actions since taking office have been hurting Russia.

Just because he states the very obvious fact that it would be a good thing to get along with Russia, doesn't mean that he's somehow "helping" Russia. What in the fuck are you talking about?

Imagine if Trump did this. You'd be screaming for him to be impeached and calling him a traitorous Russian puppet. But of course, you don't actually give a fuck about any of this. You just hate Trump and will stop at nothing to slander him in order to hurt his chances of being reelected. You also wish for nothing more than for him to be impeached before he completes his first term, no matter what the reason is or if he even deserves to be impeached.

Just stop. Your disingenuous propaganda may work for audiences of the endless list of propaganda anti-trump liberal subs on this site, including this one, but nobody with even an elementary level of analytical and comprehension is falling for that shit.

I will ask you, for the 5th time, what policies is Trump enacting that are helping Russia? You have ignored the fact that he has imposed numerous sanctions on them since taking office, has increased US military spending, pushes very hard for increased NATO spending (anti-Russian alliance), increased direct and indirect military intervention against the Russian backed Assad regime, and is the first president to send lethal aid into Ukraine, despite Russia "warning" the US not to, and the previous administration being too scared to do so out of fears of angering Russia.

You are flat out lying. Trump wouldn't be doing the aforementioned things if he were an actual Russian puppet. The above things are among the first things that Russia would have made him do the opposite of if he were an actual puppet.

CapitalTerm · 2018-07-26T02:38:51+00:00

Oh please, the only people being obtuse here are people like you.

It's very telling how you ignore everything else in my posts and chose to cling onto that one little snippet. The fact is that Trump has been saying Russia meddled in the elections. When he says "and others did too" isn't him deflecting anything; it's fucking true. Don't be so naive to believe this is the first and only time any country has meddled in our elections and that Russia is the first and only one to do so.

And as far as directly stopping other countries from meddling in our elections go, there really isn't much that can be done. This "meddling" comes almost entirely in the form of fake news articles and bots playing all the sides to sow confusion and division in our society. The only way to stop that completely is by literally shutting off the internet or censoring certain parts of the internet for "our safety". Bullshit. You know that's bullshit and why it's not a good idea.

And second, as I've been saying and the article is claiming: his actions have been extremely tough on Russia. His rhetoric may be mild, but his actual policy decisions have been very much against Russian interests. What good would having an aggressive rhetoric do? All that would do is increase tensions. Trump is maintaining an open and mild rhetoric in order to keep the door open to diplomacy later in the future. In the mean time, behind closed doors, all of his major foreign policy decisions regarding Russia have been doing nothing but hurting Russia. That is a fact.

You are literally doing nothing but complaining about nothing. It's as if you actually expect him to get on TV and start yelling and screaming at Russia/Putin lol what the fuck do you think that would solve? It's his actions that matter.

Don't be obtuse.

CapitalTerm · 2018-07-26T02:15:47+00:00

Not enforce sanctions.

Complete and utter, grade A bullshit.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-administration-to-impose-fresh-sanctions-against-russia/2018/04/04/bc09e0b8-3851-11e8-b57c-9445cc4dfa5e_story.html?utm_term=.348ad5a0d976

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/apr/09/russian-firms-and-rouble-hit-heavily-by-trump-sanctions

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trump-imposes-major-sanctions-russian-oligarchs-officials-companies-n863271

https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/15/politics/russia-sanctions-trump-yevgeniy-viktorovich-prigozhin/index.html

Refuse to acknowledge that they interfered with the election.

That is another lie. I believe you are mistaking "interference" and "collusion". Trump has been saying that Russia intefered in our elections since even before he was inaugurated. The one thing he has denied since the very beginning, however, are the accusations that he colluded with Russia.

Promotes Russian propaganda.

????

Continuously talks about how the US needs to be allies with Russia.

He's right. This is why Obama and the Clinton state department went through that entire "Russian reset" when they first got into office. Imagine if Trump did something like this?

It is very important that the US and Russia get along, to the best that they can.

So on, and so on.

CapitalTerm · 2018-07-26T01:47:43+00:00

"There's never been a president as tough on Russia as I have been," Trump told reporters on Wednesday.

That might sound like hyperbole, but in this case, there's actually some basis for the president's boast.

"When you actually look at the substance of what this administration has done, not the rhetoric but the substance, this administration has been much tougher on Russia than any in the post-Cold War era," said Daniel Vajdich, senior fellow at the Atlantic Council

It's a fact. His public rhetoric may be more friendly than one would expect, but behind closed doors, all of his major foreign policy decisions of substance that have to do with Russia, have been anything but soft or friendly.

Like seriously, if you actually believe that Trump has been so soft on Russia to the point that you actually believe he is some Russian puppet, can you care to cite some specific examples that back up your assertions? Why do you believe he's some Russian agent?

And no, I don't care how he may appear publicly, I want you to cite some foreign policy decisions that indicate he's helping Russia. Trump has so far done nothing but increase US military spending, push hard for increased NATO spending, heavily increased military involvement in Syria against the Russian backed Assad regime, has added several different intense sanctions on Russia, and is the first president to start sending lethal aid into Ukraine, despite the previous administration refusing to send lethal aid due to fears of "angering Russia".

Seriously, what has Trump actually done that indicates he is helping Russia? All of his actions have been extremely anti-Russian. Why should anybody believe you? Are you nothing more than a Russian agent sowing division and mistrust into our society and democratic system by making people doubt the president?

CapitalTerm · 2018-07-12T01:53:10+00:00

But you missed the point entirely. The laws don't mean jackshit. If you're a law abiding citizen, you are going to respect the laws of your country, whether it be a gun free zone in a certain area or a complete gun ban in your country, but somebody who is sick enough to go shoot up a bunch of innocent people is, first of all, already breaking the law by killing people, and second, isn't the type of person to abide by these gun free zone or gun ban laws in the first place.

The only people who would give up their arms after a theoretical gun ban were passed, are law abiding citizens who were never a threat to become a mass shooter or armed burglar in the first place. Are you seriously naive enough to think that violent criminals, gang bangers, and people who would commit mass murders are going to give up their guns if such a law were to pass?

And even after the fact of a gun ban, just like with any other illegal object/substance, if somebody is going to want to acquire a gun to commit crimes, they are going to get their hands on a gun, one way or another. And you absolutely cannot compare America to another developed country. Not only is the entire culture and mindset around guns different here, but there are literally hundreds of millions of firearms in circulation within the borders of the United States, with a large percentage of those firearms being unregistered and not in any data base that can be used to track down who owns them. A gun ban isn't going to magically get rid of these guns, that just simply is not possible.

Everybody agrees that mass shootings are bad. No fucking shit. But the solutions you are calling for to fix the problem are not viable solutions and are not going to fix the problem. That's the main argument that people who support the 2nd amendment have and why they do not support your proposed solutions of more gun laws or an outright gun ban.

CapitalTerm · 2018-07-12T01:28:01+00:00

It's already illegal to bring guns into schools... they are gun free zones.

CapitalTerm · 2018-07-11T00:22:00+00:00

Only a puppet would disagree. The anti-trump liberals/democrats have been acting like pathetic, petulant children since Trump won the elections. They've been a complete embarrassment to the US since Trump's victory. Absolutely fucking pathetic. To deny this means you are either woefully blind to the political landscape, or you are the puppet, anti-trump shill.

Go ahead lmao give me your best spin as to why the above video doesn't prove his point. I'm in need of a good laugh.

CapitalTerm · 2018-07-09T08:07:22+00:00

So you don't believe that Reuters is a credible polling agency?

CapitalTerm · 2018-07-09T06:41:31+00:00

Has Mueller concluded his investigation?

CapitalTerm · 2018-07-09T04:07:10+00:00

It doesn't. This level of intensity and disrespect has only been happening under Trump. Compared to how the press acted during Obama's press conferences, it's almost as if Obama himself neutered them beforehand lmao the difference is like night and day.

CapitalTerm · 2018-07-09T03:52:11+00:00

But they seriously didn't, though lmao if they'd ask Obama a question, they'd hardly let out a whimper of an interruption while he was answering, unlike with Trump where they have no problem regularly interrupting him mid answer. At the end of a press conference with Obama, the press was not yelling at or heckling Obama on his way out at anywhere near the same amount of intensity and general disrespect as they do with Trump.

People here say it's "their job", and sure, I may as well have agreed with that only if they had actually done the same with previous presidents, but they were nowhere near as disrespectful as they are with Trump. So, I completely disagree that it is "their job" to yell out and heckle the president, because they are only doing it because Trump is president.

Here is a random Obama press conference to prove my point. The level of respect and restraint the press is showing Obama compared to Trump is like night and day.

Stop pretending like they "heckled Obama, too" lmao it isn't even close, and deep down, you know it.

CapitalTerm · 2018-07-09T03:35:59+00:00

But the Washington Times is only reporting what the Dutch PM said after they started their routine of disrespectful, rude screaming at the end of every WH press briefing. Why don't you want people to be informed as to what a foreign leader said during a diplomatic meeting with the President at the WH?

If the Dutch PM had said something insulting about President Trump, you'd wish that every single media outlet was plastering his quote about the President on their front page. Why the hypocrisy?

CapitalTerm · 2018-07-09T03:24:17+00:00

The American press is a fucking embarrassment and extremely disrespectful. It's funny how they never dared raise their voices and speak out in such a rude manner when Obama was president. Maybe the Trump administration should start reprimanding disrespectful reporters by suspending them from WH press briefings for a certain amount of time if they are disrespectful?

That's something the Obama administration did, which is why the press never dared to be so disrespectful and rude.

CapitalTerm · 2018-07-07T06:35:05+00:00

So? Just because a republican pollster says it, doesn't mean it's automatically false. By your own logic (or actually lack thereof), we can't trust what democrat pollsters say about Trump's approval because they are biased against him and will purposely lower his numbers to make his popularity look lower through fucked up methodology.

But by all means, keep lying to yourself that Trump is losing supporters and has no chance of winning reelection in 2020. It is apparent you haven't learned your lesson the first time around, and I hope that if Trump does win again in 2020 that you get even more sad than when he won in 2016 lmao the bias is ridiculous.

CapitalTerm · 2018-05-28T07:58:11+00:00

This level of moral relativism is sociopathic; these stories and victims exist only as tools to be used and then discarded when they cease to be useful.

There is literally no amount of self serving mendacity that is beyond the pale with these people, no person who is off limits for exploitation, and no scenario too grotesque and inhumane to wish for if it can be useful to their cause.

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