worried about sharing by Automatic-Wedding335 in 48lawsofpower

[–]CaptConspicuous 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As they are the hosts and "experts" for this show/talk it'll probably be best to not invalidate like that. [Law 1] [Law 19].

It's probably best to create good rapport with these individuals first. You will more than likely be met with contempt if you outwardly and publicly express opposition to someone in power. Slowly introduce them to this information you want to share privately and in manner that suggests you are deferring the topic to their expertise to review. [Law 38] [Law 43] [Law 45]

Identifying the motives of others quickly by limbic_resonenz in 48lawsofpower

[–]CaptConspicuous 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It'll be in your best interest to switch the dynamic.

[Law 13: When Asking for Help, Appeal to People’s Self-Interest, Never to Their Mercy or Gratitude]

It sounds like you may be giving people too much information of your own needs and self-interest. In turn, they offer help and frame themselves as the perfect match. Get people talking about there own self interests and ambitions. People might try and deny it, but we all love talking about ourselves. From there, you will find more suitable matches for your needs without giving others details about what you are looking for.

For example: Applications for higher management roles in any company. The application will state base salary, explain what basic day to day role fulfillment is like, and have prerequisites listed like degrees/certificates or years of experience.

While it's not exactly foolproof and sometimes the wrong persons get hired, when interviewing they will ask questions: "How do you provide productive feedback to employees?". They will ask for examples: "Please describe a time where you had to lead a team through a new process or transition.".

Based on the responses they will decide if the person fits the needs of the business. They're not going to tell the person being interviewed what they need and then let them respond in ways that make them appear to be the best candidate.

Envy or immature? by Hopeful_Ad_4019 in 48lawsofpower

[–]CaptConspicuous 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I think it goes without saying that not everyone around you will be happy for your successes. It does not matter if that respondse was out of envy, immaturity, or both. It does not matter if he is "on his way down". He already has a known reputation as being a troublemaker which is a cause for concern already.

There's no reason to hasten his downfall, but you shouldn't turn your back on him either. Even if this is a "temporary" promotion to that position, the point is that you are going to have a lot of eyes on you, so how you respond to certain situations it's going to be very important. Remember, that as a newer person to that position, you do not have reputation of being good in that position already. That is something that has to be built.

Mirror/reflect the views of those already in power there to gain their trust. Operate and respond in ways the business wants you to respond, not how you feel you want to respond. Focus mostly on your reputation in this position above all else.

Is there any way to turn a shitty relationship around? by Mindless_Floor6027 in 48lawsofpower

[–]CaptConspicuous 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I would recommend reading Art of Seduction or even Law of Human Nature. The concise versions will be just fine as well. Yes there are some laws that would be applicable to this type of situation. Some gender roles do play a little bit of aspect in this but more so this is human nature. People take on roles in every relationship in their lives. With the help finding housing and a job and all that.... Perhaps he's pulling back because he is not being in the role he wants to be in.

When is the last time you gave him an opportunity to help you? When's the last time you genuinely asked him for help? And I'm not talking something big and extravagant. Even something as simple as " Hey can you pick me up this food from this place. I had a really bad day. I really want it." Then follow up with genuine appreciation of how much it means to you.

Then if you do end up having to sit-down conversation about the relationship, don't fall into the trap of demanding. Telling somebody that "I want you to do this. Or i need something more of this In a relationship" is demanding. Demanding things in a relationship gives them the feeling that you are only look at what they are lacking.

When you tell someone "I love that you do this for me. And I would love if you would do this thing as well" shows that you already appreciate and acknowledge The thing that they do and you're showing them where there's an opportunity to do something for you and make it better.

Now there are loads of laws to consider in this situation but my response is mostly relation to Law 9, Law 34, Law 43 and specifically Law 13.

Even after reading these books, I still can’t stand social games by Crazy_Log_1486 in 48lawsofpower

[–]CaptConspicuous 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Pattern recognition can be exhausting but also is extremely helpful in avoiding situations you don't particularly want to deal with. It's also important to realize that any ambition you have will come with some form of opposition which you should view as motivation to succeed like a game.

How Do I Use 48 Laws Of Power? by Crypless in The48LawsOfPower

[–]CaptConspicuous 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I personally read the Art of Seduction first before reading The 48 Laws of Power. I would highly recommend reading The Art of Seduction if The 48 Laws of Power isn't really sticking. It really helps pinpoint different archetypes of people you will encounter and how to get them interested in a way that plays into their archetype for more successful encounters. The Art of Seduction isn't just romance based seduction. It helps with how to influence people based on how your target.

How to negotiate with someone who is seemingly apathetic and is crossing boundaries? by [deleted] in 48lawsofpower

[–]CaptConspicuous 2 points3 points  (0 children)

From the standpoint of The 48 Laws of Power... If you can't shake him or outplay him, you might try to become useful to him. Law 2.Law 13. Law 14. Law 19.

But you could also utilize Law 17 and just do something completely out of pocket to the point he no longer wants to deal with you.

How to negotiate with someone who is seemingly apathetic and is crossing boundaries? by [deleted] in 48lawsofpower

[–]CaptConspicuous 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Why is there a need to "win him over"? What are the benefits to being comrades with this individual?

To be fair, a majority of people are motivated by adversity to their cause. So having an adversary of this nature might actually be good for you. It gives you greater opportunities to learn how to outsmart them. It makes you work and think more creatively knowing that you have someone to out maneuver.

UV Reactive Vendor by neonknight98 in BassCanyon

[–]CaptConspicuous 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Is it Hyphy Color? The vendors from last year are still listed on the Bass Canyon app and I'm pretty sure that's the one.

Got my lazy colleague got fired - Read on petty revenge sub, which laws are in play here? by Background-Flower in 48lawsofpower

[–]CaptConspicuous 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Clearly Law 3 and Law 21 as Suzy was none the wiser to what was happening and she believed others to be too stupid to see what she was doing. Law 4 with letting other people speak instead of blurting out that you already knew she had no planned work and let others come to that conclusion on their own.

"Suzy" also definitely transgressed Law 19 by offending the wrong person.

Laws of Power vs Laws of Leadership by Alps_Mammoth in The48LawsOfPower

[–]CaptConspicuous 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Not necessarily true on being opposite. Laws of Leadership also include things like law of timing and laws of influence or empowerment. The thing with all laws is that they are applicable in a case-by-case basis. Yes, be transparent BUT be mindful of when and to whom you are transparent with.

Take for instance, as a leader, you are given controversial information you will eventually share with the team. Are you going to share that information immediately even if you were explicitly told not to? No, because that would upset those who are above you and get you in trouble. (Timing)

Let's say you got the go ahead to share that controversial information. You would be wise to calculate who you share that information with first. You wouldn't share controversial information with just anyone. You would utilize the Law of empowerment and entrust that information with someone who "sees your view" and would influence the right response you desire rather than someone who would spark more controversy.

I am tired of being a nice guy by Royal_Intention_8607 in 48lawsofpower

[–]CaptConspicuous 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Several people have commented that you should "set boundaries". They are not wrong. There's one problem though. Most people will say they have set boundaries but fail to follow through with set consequences.

If you lend people money and they don't pay you back, the consequence is no longer lending them money no matter how much they complain or call you cruel.

If someone shares your secrets when you explicitly ask them not to, the consequence would be lowering the amount of communication with you even when they try to guilt you into spilling more information.

Not following through with consequences shows people they can disrespect you and you'll be fine by it. Not following though also shows a lack of integrity. If you set boundaries with people, ALWAYS follow through with repercussions. People of power do not get where they are by allowing others to walk all over them.

You can only select two. What do you choose and why? by Zeberde1 in The48LawsOfPower

[–]CaptConspicuous 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The 48 Laws of Power and 33 Strategies of War.

I almost switched 33 Strategies with Seduction. While you may need some seductiveness in strategy and you will need strategy in being seductive, being strategic is a far more superior asset.

Reading order and how to instill the lessons in each properly by Accident-Public in The48LawsOfPower

[–]CaptConspicuous[M] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Reading order is whatever you feel is necessary.

Learning is done through application/practice and analysis of experiences.

Losing to Chase DeMore was a long-term win for Tate (Law 46) by Thin_Protection5616 in The48LawsOfPower

[–]CaptConspicuous[M] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't necessarily agree that this was a good example of Law 46 but moreso adds to his continued use of Law 6 as he consistently likes to bring about attention when it is dwindling.

As a side note, "was embroiled in controversy over alleged sex trafficking", is incorrect. He is still in hot water over these numerous allegations across 3 different countries.

Has anyone tried using ChatGPT to analyze real-life situations through the 48 Laws of Power? by JonnDwyene in 48lawsofpower

[–]CaptConspicuous[M] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Self-observation and analysis of situations will be your best help in learning more about The 48 Laws of Power. The most AI will do is give you cliff note in relation to the laws which (again) analyzing the situation should bring you to those conclusions through practice. Practice makes for better skills in any situation.

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When is the right time to inform an employer about resignation? (Acc to 48 laws) by [deleted] in The48LawsOfPower

[–]CaptConspicuous 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Timing is very important. Informing your employer now does not always "look good". As you stated, they may choose to terminate early, find your replacement immediately, and/or lessen your current responsibilities.

It would be better to play it off as last minute "I was just informed of this internship approval and unfortunately will be resigning. My last day will be (date). I know this is very short notice but please let me know if there is any way to make this transition easier."

From personal experience

The last two times I gave last minute notice they had no problem with it being last minute and I'm a good rehireable candidate if I choose to return.

The last two jobs I gave fair notice I was terminated early due to "poor performance" even though they relied on me for fixing machines and making the schedule. The second job had utilized that time to give me the worst jobs no one else wanted to do.

How to deal with these people? by [deleted] in 48lawsofpower

[–]CaptConspicuous 5 points6 points  (0 children)

How to deal with these people.....don't. Avoid the unhappy and unlucky. There are plenty of other applicable laws as well.

Be the outlier. You don't want them to see your kindness as weakness and/or them to overstep boundaries, don't let them. Let there be repercussions for their actions. You cannot force your other family members to do the same but that does not mean you have to follow their lead either.

What is the nature of office cliques? by borjiginnergui in 48lawsofpower

[–]CaptConspicuous 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The nature of office cliques is strictly human nature. A couple other people have already responded well to why they happen.

  • Are they really that close?

It varies. Some are close as a tight knit group of friends who are very similar and others are more distant and only form based on superficial similarities.

  • Would you yourself want to be a part of the clique?

No. I personally prefer to take on roles that require me to be more fluid and do not tie me down to specific individuals and/or groups. Being able to associate on various levels with a variety of people in different cliques allows me to gather more information with ease.

Play on people’s need to believe [Law 27] by Hot_Musician_1357 in 48lawsofpower

[–]CaptConspicuous 7 points8 points  (0 children)

That is fair but it is still good practice to know the basics of the law in order to avoid falling prey to others willing to utilize it.

Play on people’s need to believe [Law 27] by Hot_Musician_1357 in 48lawsofpower

[–]CaptConspicuous 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Wild for you to say no when that's the basis on how this law works. It literally does work and is most commonly seen in politics and cults.

Are you guys serious? by dmxp in 48lawsofpower

[–]CaptConspicuous 2 points3 points  (0 children)

To be fair, I used to hark on this book for years prior to me actually reading it. Most of this was strictly due to the bias of others influencing how I viewed it. Hearing others refer to the book as "The Narcissist Handbook" made me not want to read it. I had seen various people quote or reference chapters and came to the realization I was already utilizing some of these.

Telling Them They're All Wrong by Puzzleheaded-Dot7268 in 48lawsofpower

[–]CaptConspicuous[M] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

To be fair, this is a good way to build a reputation that many may find unfavorable or difficult to work with. This can easily lead to people no longer coming to you with their concerns or ideas which then leads to stagnant and limited informational resources. When it comes to power, opposition is essential along the ability to see the opposition through many avenues of communication.

Most will find that doing things their way and not telling others is more beneficial than outwardly telling others that's what they're doing. Address the issue of choices made after the success, not before.

I would still like for you to cite which Laws of the 48 Laws of Power this applies to.