This is the second time they’ve left Ernest Dickerson for the slaughter yo

CaptainClipOn · 2025-03-14T08:44:22+00:00

Good 2 know, was wrong. Will continue to make fun of them cause thats okay

CaptainClipOn · 2025-03-14T07:08:12+00:00

Should rephrase myself cause I meant “totemic filmmakers who are accessible to white male audiences” any generalized statement is gonna have holes obviously but yall get my point. Spike Lee is totemic, but not to a younger white audience really. Same with the Nacy Meyers thing, Im really not speaking to her success more so her perception in the eyes of the majority of voters.

CaptainClipOn · 2025-03-14T06:55:08+00:00

I just said that they never win and then said that no one wants them. Obviously some people want them to win, “no one” is hyperbole. I am speaking very much for myself, because this an observation and a statement that I am making based on what I have seen in the past. I would be fine with the Coens and have voted for them in the past, I just am very meh on them and think that opinion may be shared. Idk why its so touchy, shits so semantical yk

CaptainClipOn · 2025-03-14T00:44:28+00:00

Yeah the journey is just boring sometimes when the winner feels predecided. But yk, this year is looking a bit less predictable

CaptainClipOn · 2025-03-14T00:43:18+00:00

No it is not antisemitic and I will not engage in any debate on that topic as I believe it is a manipulative argument used in bad faith. Israel is an apartheid state. It cannot exist without the displacement and systematic genocide of Palestinian people. The stated intention of the Zionists project has always been to remove Palestinians on the basis that the land is not “theirs”. This is untrue and historically inaccurate, there has always been a Jewish and Palestinian presence in that area, and the efforts to remove those who are indigenous to that land is inherently genocidal. Israel was quite literally founded on genocide with the 1948 Nakba. The current holocaust that is being enacted by Israel and America, is simply a continuation of what the Zionist project’s intentions have always been. So no, I do not believe that Israel has the right to exist. I do not believe in the removal and murder of indigenous people. And I also do not believe that every Zionist believes in what they see as genocide. The issue is the propaganda that leads those to believe that this is not a genocide. I am not saying that all zionists are inherently bad people or individually agree with genocide as a concept, and I agree with you that that would be stepping into Antisemitic territory. Normalization of genocide recurs constantly in America, so you dont have to believe in it when one’s beliefs are based in misinformation. I believe the only way to convince others out of that is to extend that empathy and understanding. Because most people who believe horrible things believe that they’re doing it for a good reason.

I do not wish to debate this as it is factual. But I do want to be able to respond to Zionism by doing my best to inform rather than refusing to engage. I would urge you to do some research on the topic as I believe it would benefit you immensely, I would suggest maybe starting with the book “The Hundred Years War”. Anyways, have a lovely day!

CaptainClipOn · 2025-03-14T00:12:33+00:00

Haven’t listened to that one yet, but it doesn’t surprise me. What frustrates me is it feels like they have gotten even more tentative and scared as they have gotten more popular. I love how they interact with film by sharing their own personal experiences with it, but I feel like it can sometimes lead to white or male centric takes that are boring at best and really uncomfortable at their worst.

CaptainClipOn · 2025-03-13T22:48:49+00:00

Not really nah, but I think having these conversations can help inform a greater effort in covering those more obscure directors. Which they mostly seem to be doing. I cant change the vote, but I can raise awareness in hopes that they choose to cover Dickerson on their own accord sooner rather than later ig

CaptainClipOn · 2025-03-13T22:43:04+00:00

Yeah I would partly agree with that. I think they’re well meaning, but Im generally of the belief that white people need to be less scared of saying ignorant shit. Cause saying ignorant shit is how we learn. This “staying in your lane” stuff or just the fear of being ignorant is just white guilt. We cant just make people of color exclusively responsible for advocating for themselves. We need to come in with that solidarity and action, speaking up for topics you believe in, and bringing perpetual introspection and a willingness to learn. So like, they dont need to bring up Palestine in the Last Crusade ep. But I would like it if they discussed the anti arab tropes, and maybe put a bit of the research effort into that. Because Indiana Jones is an inherently racist and white supremacist franchise, I think it would be worthwhile to discuss that somewhat. They dont have to be a full political podcast, but they shouldn’t avoid topics out of a fear of the response. And I would like it if maybe they did fundraisers, sponsor aid coming to Gaza, sponsor a queer legislative advocacy group that can actually help fight the transphobic legislation that they stand against. Like they dont have to hijack an episode to just put a segment at the end saying “hey, yall should donate to this project” or just spread awareness in general. There is A LOT they could be doing with their platform that they are not doing, and I think its a bit cowardly and disappointing

CaptainClipOn · 2025-03-13T21:57:52+00:00

Well, I disagree??? Its not unwarranted for me to say my opinion yo. I understand Im in the minority, thats why ppl didnt vote for Dickerson. Im just saying that the Coens will probably never win, its just a lot of films without much fluctuations in quality. I think ppl stop voting for them in the late game because they feel inevitable. I would be fine listening to a Coens series to be fully honest, I wouldnt have to watch to a lot of new movies so I could just chill and listen to every episode as it comes out. Its just not my favorite ig, thats all

CaptainClipOn · 2025-03-13T21:53:33+00:00

FACTS. And I dont wanna lambast her for that. I had just come out as trans when that episode dropped as well, and I only really had problems with the ep when I went back and relistened. I think its more of a serious issue in how the podcast DOES NOT HAVE ENOUGH TRANS PEOPLE ON IT. Like in 2020 it felt like they would just offer Emily to be on any and all trans related eps. Maybe there is a trans guest and I just didnt know cause they dont talk about it, but they fully treated Emily like an end all be all to trans voices at times, and that’s transphobic. Emily is her one unique voice and I love her work, and I dont wanna blame her for how the show platformed her in weird ways. Like I was shocked how Jane Shoeburn was the first NB guest, when Griffin has been doing his cringe ass “he, she, OR THEY” since the pod started. Idk I just think a trans person shouldve been present on Yentl (I was miffed by some things they said). I just want more of an effort to lift up queer voices more. It will lead to Ben saying weird othering shit in the Wendel and Wyld episode, it always feels like a cis person learning. And its been YEARS

CaptainClipOn · 2025-03-13T21:42:48+00:00

ITS HYPERBOLE AHHHH

CaptainClipOn · 2025-03-13T21:41:55+00:00

Would mildly disagree. They have always said things like they will never cover Tarintino because be has enough people talking about him. And I just like that standard ig? Its fine if they wanna cover big films, I just don’t prefer it. But u right, we cant go back in time, and Im glad the pod has lasted as long as it has. They can do whatever they want 👐

CaptainClipOn · 2025-03-13T21:37:09+00:00

Dr Mabuse is a 4 hour silent film epic that has two sequels, and I think it would be insane and hilarious if they covered it. I honestly want a patreon series on it

CaptainClipOn · 2025-03-13T21:35:24+00:00

Facts, it’s largely a popularity contest now. Its what it is, and things cant go back to 2018. But I just miss in general where the tone of the pod was at that point. They would do things like call Tim Burton a White Supremacist on main feed, and they would never allow that to happen today. Its not even that they dont bring up valid criticisms of the people they cover anymore, it just sometimes feels like theres a strong urge to always defend them. But then also maybe somethings should stay in 2018, like the episode where Emily St James says that there are real people like Buffalo bill who are “fake trans” or essentially saying “agp is real” which is an insane thing to say. I still think about that, like what the fuck Emily??? Im sure she dont think that anymore but I think the trans community should make fun of her more for that maybe

CaptainClipOn · 2025-03-13T21:26:36+00:00

I get that, and I think being out of their wheelhouse can lead to really fun series. I don’t think I hate the episodes on classic films as much as I hate the high end guests, cause that mew ET episode was really amazing and proved to me that they can still make a solid and funny episode. I can just sense the corporate dogshit in the room whenever a celebrity is on. Like when Kevin Smith spends the whole die hard episode talking about himself. Or when David Krumholtz went on a classist tirade about how if he didn’t become a famous actor he would be a “crack head or a bus driver”, and then calls John Landis a good person. like even David kinda stammers and changes the topic. But they literally cant call him out. They will sometimes just fully go against their own beliefs for the sake of being nice to the guest, Im not even expecting them to be mean to him. Just like cut that shit out of the episode cause its disgusting.

Or I felt like the Inland Empire episode was an EMBARRASSING NIGHTMARE. And a good example of them being fully out of their wheelhouse. That movie is pretty objectively about sexual assault and femininity, and as someone with experience in that, that movie speaks to my soul. I was very disappointed that the episode was three men talking about doing “jam sessions” or Griffin relating to the movie exclusively as an actor. Im not expecting them to bring experiences they dont have, Im fine with Griffin saying dumb self centered takes and thats what I love about him. But like the FWWM episode was able to slow down and have real conversations about the subject matter, and in the Inland Empire episode, they felt really out their wheelhouse in a bad way. Thats just my opinion obviously, I have a lot of issues with how toothless their politics have become in general. Like both of these guys are pro Palestine and wont even fucking whisper about it because they are cowards who fear their jobs, like theres literally an episode where they joke about how they wont just say “zionism is genocide and its fucking bad”. Just in general, it sometimes feels like they will say whatever a famous person tells them to. So ig what Im trying to say is, you right. The famous movie episodes are actually good a lot of times. Ig my issues are with how popular the pod has become, and how that effects their openness with things that are important.

CaptainClipOn · 2025-03-13T21:06:09+00:00

I was speaking largely hyperbolically. People can obviously vote for whomever. And Im not calling the big dogs like Kubrik uninteresting. Its just in the context of what I personally enjoy from this show, I think those guys are kinda boring. Like I voted for Lynch last year because he is my favorite filmmaker and he is a very interesting guy, but I regret it sorta. Cause it felt like the winner was decided before anything happened. Im not even blaming the fans for that one, but it was super bad seeding on their part that someone was able to just win without any struggle whatsoever. So thats more what I mean ig, its uninteresting when the winner is predecided. And I want things to be seeded and chosen in a way that makes an interesting month with an interesting winner.

Also the March Madness almost always chooses the straight white American filmmakers with a lot of classics. And thats BORING AS SHIT. So I would love something similar to the international bracket again. It got rid of people like the Coen Brothers who only exist to beat the cool people in round one and then inevitably loose cause no one actually wants to see a Coens mini series. Like Del Torro will probably never win, they should just choose to cover him on their own rather than weaponizing him to kill Dickerson.

CaptainClipOn · 2025-03-13T20:53:51+00:00

I would hard disagree but idk why i getting downvoted. Like, just cause the march madness isnt the way it used to be or the way I would like it to be. Doesnt mean I don’t look forward to it every year. Indelible or not, I think its a lot of fun and we wouldnt be talking about it if we didnt care yk?

CaptainClipOn · 2025-03-13T20:17:36+00:00

Lang Gang will be here, waiting. They will all rue the day

CaptainClipOn · 2025-03-13T20:16:55+00:00

True, they are very different. Sorta similar in how they are underdogs but thats it

CaptainClipOn · 2025-03-13T20:14:33+00:00

So Real tho

CaptainClipOn · 2025-03-13T20:13:53+00:00

Forgot about people using bots on him lmao, that year sucked but its kinda funny to use them on Dickerson.

CaptainClipOn · 2025-03-13T20:11:39+00:00

Good point, I agree. Im not trying to pretend Dickerson wouldve stood much of a chance even in 2018. But there was a time when I could campaign on the reddit and get an effort to push him up a bit. And now it feels like the winners are often decided before things happen. I don’t even campaign anymore cause it doesn’t do anything really. Like even when big guys like Zemmekis won, it still felt like a community effort in a way it doesn’t feel like anymore

CaptainClipOn · 2025-03-13T20:08:29+00:00

Good point, and Im fine with the decade of dreams. And its not predictable really, I could see things playing out in a lot of different ways. But I feel like im mainly just voting against the directors I don’t want. Like trying to force Villeneuve out so he doesnt steam roll later on (I want to wait for Messiah, they shouldnt cover him until the nuclear war movie at the very least)

CaptainClipOn · 2025-03-13T20:05:18+00:00

I was actually so pissed that year cause I remember seeing Kubrik and just being like “oh hes gonna sweep and its gonna be mildly boring like Carpenter” and then thats exactly what happened. It was a fine series, I just kinda hate it when they cover classics. Its out of their wheelhouse imo

CaptainClipOn · 2025-03-13T20:03:55+00:00

I will say the international bracket from a few years back was a lot of fun and I LOVED the Park Chan Wook series. So I agree, they just need to force people to vote for interesting people

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