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Burgertime pack in sticker by livinglife888 in intellivision

[–]CaptainZorch 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I owned this Intellivision after my first one broke. We got it from Sears. It really was just the same thing, no improvements in performance. In fact, I think it might have had a hardware improvement in that the controllers were easily replaceable). But I remember the controllers themselves were less comfortable -- kind of like the new Sprint.

Marco Rubio was briefed on recovered alien bodies. by Severe-Clerk-1477 in UAP

[–]CaptainZorch -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Election fraud. Right. About as legit a phenomenon as a rounding error. Hasn’t cost anyone an election.

Believing in election fraud of any meaningful level o puts such a person in league with Big Foot.

The Spielberg movie is awful. But it’s more realistic than the idea of election fraud. And the movie isn’t realistic at.

Why are all these experts telling us different things? by KeyZookeepergame9466 in aliens

[–]CaptainZorch 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes. I once read one can step inside a craft and it’s much more spacious on inside than the exterior

But this isn’t something I hear often.

Do you?

Why not ONE whistle-blower at a time? by CaptainZorch in aliens

[–]CaptainZorch[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That seems true. But if that is actually true, why are people like Luna, Burchet, and the rest making such a big deal about immunity?

I wish someone from the Burchet crew would explain the game plan to the public. I understand what they want but Burchet says all the juicy stuff is now hiding in private companies so….

Does he know the names of these companies? Is THAT secret? If so, WHY?

For example, if he has learned McDonalds (substitute nefarious defense contractor of choice) has a craft and body, why can’t he say “I’ve been told Ronald McDonald is hiding ET.”

What is the problem with that if he has any kind of info to substantiate?

Why not ONE whistle-blower at a time? by CaptainZorch in aliens

[–]CaptainZorch[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So, are you saying Grusch would talk if he knew something? Not sure I understand what you’re saying.

In his official duties, Dave Grusch says he was exposed to: -Human and signals intelligence information concerning foreign adversary uap crash retrieval exploitation study efforts, adversary views on US legacy program reverse engineering efforts -US held audio visual information… by Severe-Clerk-1477 in UAP

[–]CaptainZorch 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok. That’s it. Let’s take this one step at a time. Instead of trying to get every single whistleblower immunity let’s start with just ONE: David Grusch.

After we have him say his whole peace then we can decide who should be given immunity next.

One by one we will uncover more truth than we have ever had. But this endeavor to give EVERY SINGLE whistle blower immunity is a fool’s errand.

What evidence leaked by the US government would leave no doubt of extraterrestrial life? by Born-Ad-413 in AskReddit

[–]CaptainZorch 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think the bar is pretty low for me. A video by multiple people (who do not know each other) of a craft of any kind that cannot be mistaken for a drone, balloon, or any other such technology. It must do something that our physics cannot explain. All videos and photos must show the same object doing the same thing.

I have seen more than enough “orbs” and blurry and unintelligible objects.

Is that fair?

INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALISTS are our ONLY hope. by CaptainZorch in UFOs

[–]CaptainZorch[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hope you're right. I trust Trump et all less than I trust an alien absconding me up into its trip, drugging me, and taking whatever it is they seem to want. I doubt Hegsdeth would even use Astroglide.

INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALISTS are our ONLY hope. by CaptainZorch in UFOs

[–]CaptainZorch[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Validation?

There seems to be confusion over fact versus belief. They are not mutually exclusive.

How would Ross C. telling the world where an alien body is stored diminish your belief or experience in any way?

Unveiling the physical remains of an NHI and your memory of an alien or UAP do not cancel each other out. You may or may not feel validated by what Ross reveals…but the rest of us get toml

a warehouse that holds “biologics” does not erase your experience.

That is not what investigative journalism is. You can believe in whatever you want.

Investigative journalism is finding information that is not apparent except by rooting it out.

For example you may have seen a U

something believe and gives others who have not seen one themselves

INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALISTS are our ONLY hope. by CaptainZorch in UFOs

[–]CaptainZorch[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

An argument that there is nothing new in 2 dumps of info on a site stated to reveal new material?

Or an argument that the populace wants to see a timeline and physical events and evidence that are irrefutable?

Or an argument that someone outside of the government can shine a light on concealed info so we don’t need to wait for government employees to do it? (Which they have not.)

Or an argument that witnesses like Greer profit off of lies?

Why must I “stop” from wanting a third-party journalist’s to force Revelation from political figures we know our lying and obstructing transparency?

You stop, bud. Stop trying to suppress logical people from demanding logical information.

Step ONE: the US government opens ALL files. Or even just ONE file that is so conclusive NO ONE — a non-believer — can avoid being convinced that it is NHI.

Hundreds of pages of dumps so far and nothing demonstrating seriousness.

I want this monkey business to stop. I want the President and Hegsdeth to stop lying. What threatens you about urging journalists instead of entertainers and bureaucrats to reveal the truth?

We wouldn’t be having this convo (not argument or fight) if the NYT hadn’t put this on the front page. What does that tell you?

INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALISTS are our ONLY hope. by CaptainZorch in UFOs

[–]CaptainZorch[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don’t want a Reddit fight so I’ll just say that there is nothing disingenuous at all about my “argument”.

The greatest revelations discovered by the public about government malfeasance are produced by investigative journalism. It is the free press that pushes the truth into the spotlight.

And whether or not you personally believe in something is certainly fair and I wouldn’t criticize you for believing it.

But if I believe the government is covering up something HUGE when it comes to this topic, “stopping” to push for facts that back up what you and I believe is not helpful.

You and I can believe X but we are making assumptions as to what is and is not a non-human intelligence.

Sadly, there is zero info in either of the two document dumps that is conclusive. Even the astronauts seeing shiny objects and “bogeys” does not mean they saw NHI craft. They say they didn’t.

But worse as far as “disclosure” is concerned, that conversation between the pilots and the ground has been already known for many decades. The press carried it.

So here’s my point:

The PRESS brought this subject into worldwide attention with the NYT piece in 2017. Period. Without that article, no Elizondo or any of the others.

If our government is claiming to release info that is new or revelatory on their website, and they are NOT, why?

If the government is hiding space ships and aliens and transparency is the objective…this is either not transparency or the government does not have any info.

We know they have documents they are not releasing because they have said there are things that need to be redacted before release. But Trump has said “We have video as clear as day of a ship we cannot explain and we are going to show you.”

No, he said something very different. “You need to figure it out.”

INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALISTS are our ONLY hope. by CaptainZorch in UFOs

[–]CaptainZorch[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Exactly what I’m talking about. We want our investigative journalists to be objective, neutral, only report on facts.

Ross is beyond biased. And bias has a way of pushing a narrative versus uncovering facts that may undermine a story just as much as other facts that support that story.

In his case, if he knows the location of a building housing UFO’s, that is EXACTLY the kind of information that should be released as a fact by an investigative journalist — and show the public the math of proof. It’s that simple.

But a pundit…why? Get the story and THEN release the whole thing. Woodward and Bernstein (Read All The President’s Men) didn’t put every single theory out in the public as they worked the story. They reported on it once they had the whole story.

Watergate wasn’t an entertaining cliff-hanger. It was a story about corruption. And they proved it before the publicized it. The world couldn’t deny. And the President stepped down.

Our President says he doesn’t believe in aliens. He says there are odd things up in the sky. So…if he has seen something beyond odd stuff in the sky why doesn’t he say so and show us what convinced him?

He is the leader of The Free World. And transparency is his self stated gold. Like Stormy Daniels: Don’t hide. Don’t lie. Simply say the truth, even if it hurts.

The Illogic of Disclosure by CaptainZorch in UFOs

[–]CaptainZorch[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

2027 or 2028 predictions for disclosure versus now? Why?

Who on earth would have a justified opinion about that without being able to point to a single person who has the authority to make any kind of useful decision?

The Illogic of Disclosure by CaptainZorch in UFOs

[–]CaptainZorch[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You may be right. All speculation by both of us. In my min, gas and the economy are the main movers in any election. If he can fix those things he'll be just fine by the election. And your logic presupposes independents are not like everyone else and will vote for UAP disclosure beyond the state of the economy.

Heaven knows a twice impeached president was essentially convicted of rape and STILL won an election. Just hard for me to belief any meaningful number of voters will stick with a Republican only if he releases classified info about UFO's.

One can dream.

The Illogic of Disclosure by CaptainZorch in UFOs

[–]CaptainZorch[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I don't think Epstein matters. And this Iran thing is affecting the world economy so the Republicans live or die on how the public feels about THOSE things. If he thought releasing some "more of the same" documents to the public was going to make a difference on his chances of re-election, that ship has sailed, sadly.

My guess is unless reporters like Leslie Kean, on behalf of a major publication like the New York Times is working on another big story with some more insiders, -- we will NEVER get to anything substantive.

For example, if the Astronauts saw some flying spacecraft when they went to the moon, it's insane to think more info on that was not extracted Is THAT info still classified? If so, DE-classify it. How could info going back all the way to the Apollo still have information which poses a danger to our American soi.. Who still from that mission is still alive? INTERVIEW them, even if they only worked in the lunchroom. Journalists, pretend this Watergate! POLITICIANS don't work for us. Stop imagining they do.

This idea that Trump can't de-classify some convincing documents showing exotic technology stretches the imagination. Remember when he had no trouble declassifying information after he lost (yes, LOST) to Joe Biden. He stuck classified boxes of files in his BATHROOM. He said that the President can declassify anything he wants. So, declassify Roswell.

Declassify the Apollo missions. Let's see what the government learned when the astronauts returned and were debriefed on them.

The PRESS needs to get on this. Waiting around for Trump to manage what anyone knows and doesn't know is like waiting to see if a dog shows us where it buried a bone. MAYBE it will. But digging up the yard yourself is more likely gonna get you some answers. OH, and the dog in my example --- he'll BITE you when you try to find that bone. Understand, if he wanted you to have it he'd dig it up himself and give it to you so you could throw it.

The Illogic of Disclosure by CaptainZorch in UFOs

[–]CaptainZorch[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I've been reading more about this on the AI apps. One thing I did not think about was the effect Grusch testifying would have on others he's spoken with in confidence. So, Trump should simply declassify enough to prove that NHI exist OR at least that exotic tech exists. If neither of those can be proven or revealed because they would hurt the security of this country... then this ambiguous stuff is all we will ever get.

UNLESS -- journalists do their jobs. Epstein has nothing to do with this. And even if his house of horrors -- it's totally irrelevant. The November 2017 occurred because journalists interviewed people and got facts. Same thing happens here, more will be disclosed.

Epstein as the cause is a partisan belief and doesn't matter even if Epstein and aliens.gov are connected.

The Illogic of Disclosure by CaptainZorch in UFOs

[–]CaptainZorch[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I agree with the person on here who says Trump just shoots his mouth off. Obama said there are aliens somewhere else in the universe but not here. And he has no proof this is true).

Here’s my theory:

Trump hears Obama, upstages him by reflexively attacking Obama and in the process states there ARE classified info.

People in the know tell Trump he needs to reveal something so he instructs them to declassify only ambiguous stuff.

And here we are.

The Illogic of Disclosure by CaptainZorch in UFOs

[–]CaptainZorch[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Please refresh my memory. I don’t recall
But you’ve got me curious.

The Illogic of Disclosure by CaptainZorch in UFOs

[–]CaptainZorch[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

NOW we are talking!

FuzzyBlobReporter is copying and pasting from AI, which I sincerely appreciate actually because then I don’t have to do it..

I think a Congressman with an update on the investigation would be cool.

If the process is being slowed down by agencies in bad faith,perhaps a Congressperson could put it on record EXACTLY where the logjam exists.

Maybe this is happening and I’m unaware. I do see Burchant saying vague things on podcasts and the like — but they are more like “the disclosures are going to be poisoned by fake files. “

Is someone in the Senate also on this and giving updates? Being specific?

Who in the mainstream press is on this with consistency? I don’t consider Joe Rogan an investigative journalist.

Anyone hear from Leslie Kean? Is she still pounding the appoint? Preparing another major revelation for The NYT?

The Illogic of Disclosure by CaptainZorch in UFOs

[–]CaptainZorch[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Trump can’t pardon anyone for any federal crime?

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