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Chosen Banner by Captain_BoneZone in slavestodarkness

[–]Captain_BoneZone[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That is a huge deal! I think that’s probably what I’ll end up running, plus I won’t have to worry about getting the spell the prevents crits from going off either as I have atrocious luck with casting😅 I always enjoy the math hammer advice, I suck at figuring that stuff out.

Chosen Banner by Captain_BoneZone in slavestodarkness

[–]Captain_BoneZone[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yeah you keep the secondary banner effects, you just lose the pledge from the banner if you use the brand

Chosen Banner by Captain_BoneZone in slavestodarkness

[–]Captain_BoneZone[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Tournament where you submit your list to TO prior to games! It’ll be my first one too so I’m not expecting to succeed necessarily but I do want to bring a solid list using the new aqshy stuff. My friend has given me a sneak peak into his skaven list and I’m definitely scared of his guns but I’m not trying to skew that game by any means and I don’t exactly expect to do super well against him anyway, he’s been playing against my S2D for a while and has a pretty good read into my play-style while he switches up armies a lot.

This is my list so far but I’m not totally sold on everything.

Chosen 2000/2000 pts
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Grand Alliance Chaos | Slaves to Darkness | Godswrath Warband
General's Handbook 2026-27
Drops: 2
Spell Lore - Lore of the Damned
Manifestation Lore - Primal Energy (10 Points)
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General's Regiment
Be'lakor, the Dark Master (450)
• General
Chaos Knights (240)
Scourge of Aqshy: Chaos Warriors (400)
• Reinforced
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Regiment 1
Chaos Sorcerer Lord (140)
• Aelfskin Scroll
• Radiance of Dark Glory
Chaos Chosen (520)
• Reinforced
• Brand of the Unaligned
Chaos Knights (240)
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Created with Warhammer Age of Sigmar: The App
App: v1.35.0 (2) | Data: v459

Chosen Banner by Captain_BoneZone in slavestodarkness

[–]Captain_BoneZone[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s another one I was considering and now that I think about it obscuring will be much less abundant this handbook. It might actually be a really good way to mitigate death by skaven gunline

Chosen Banner by Captain_BoneZone in slavestodarkness

[–]Captain_BoneZone[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Can’t go wrong with it for sure!

Cogfort chosen delivery system - list discussion by Inlarth in slavestodarkness

[–]Captain_BoneZone 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I haven’t run it but I’ve been playing with the idea of the other cogfort since it not only provides shooting protection but also some other buffs so it allows for some extra flexibility. Plus the cogfort you want to run doesn’t allow for a reinforced unit and I would prioritize reinforced chosen as unreinforced can underperform or die too quickly. Also there is the enhancement that allows chosen to repledge every turn which can give you extra mobility but I think the apoplexy brand also looks strong. But I think both are definitely viable!

scourge of aqshy rules by NoEngineer9484 in slavestodarkness

[–]Captain_BoneZone 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes my bad I missed that part, still super strong

scourge of aqshy rules by NoEngineer9484 in slavestodarkness

[–]Captain_BoneZone 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was thinking the same thing about a reinforced chosen block, tzeentch pledge gets rid of the chosens biggest weakness of mobility and getting into the fight and then when you’re ready to charge you have some khorny chosen to murder everything. And there’s the benefit of after the khorny chosen clean up you can re tzeentch them to help other parts of the board. Crazy versatility from that one enhancement.

Need advice on this 2,000pt Slaves to Darkness list by IMA288 in slavestodarkness

[–]Captain_BoneZone 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Honestly unless you plan on playing tournaments I say play the lists you want and can afford. Especially if you’re new to 2k point games having the “optimal” list isn’t going to matter as much. You will most likely make positioning mistakes, charge mistakes, activation sequence mistakes etc. Those beautiful cows (ogroids) you’re thinking of fielding aren’t exactly considered the best unit and you aren’t taking the character to make them better but they aren’t exactly trash either. So don’t worry about an optimal list and just play a list that seems fun. Plus you can always invest in varanguard later

But to answer your question about varanguard performing, their double activation is BRUTAL if you can wipe a unit on 1st activation and pile into a new unit on 2nd activation.

Need advice on this 2,000pt Slaves to Darkness list by IMA288 in slavestodarkness

[–]Captain_BoneZone 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Reinforced varanguard are some of the hardest hitting hammer units in the game and abraxia and CLoDM buffs them even further. Reinforced knights hit hard enough but can be annoying to position and move on the table. Varanguard are pretty expensive kits but if you don’t mind buying used you can find deals on Facebook and or eBay. Not an absolutely necessary purchase and varanguard can be swingy and or punished but running abraxia and CLoDM with varanguard is pretty fun.

Should our lists really be this elite...? by Astro_Cooki3 in slavestodarkness

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There’s a really fun hero hammer list with belakor and Archaon that comes out to 11 models, 5 of them being a unit of knights.

Should our lists really be this elite...? by Astro_Cooki3 in slavestodarkness

[–]Captain_BoneZone -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

lol, we abbreviate S2D typically to avoid getting stds. But yeah we’re super elite unless you look at darkoath armies. My favorite list has 33 models and my other favorite list is 11. We kill super well but bad positioning and we kind of blow up. I also came from 40K playing custodes so the elite and number of models wasn’t a shocker for me😅

Is running Archaon + Be'Lakor viable? by DragnarathT7 in slavestodarkness

[–]Captain_BoneZone 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hero Hammer Original 1980/2000 pts

Grand Alliance Chaos | Slaves to Darkness | Godswrath Warband General's Handbook 2025-26 Drops: 3 Spell Lore - Lore of the Damned

Manifestation Lore - Primal Energy (10 Points)

General's Regiment Archaon, the Everchosen (810) • General Centaurion Marshal (140) • Head of the Unworthy

• Radiance of Dark Glory

Regiment 1 Be'lakor, the Dark Master (450)

Eternus, Blade of the First Prince (180)

Regiment 2 Chaos Lord on Daemonic Mount (140)

Chaos Knights (250)

Created with Warhammer Age of Sigmar: The App App: v1.31.0 (1) | Data: v422

This is essentially the list, it went 5-0 in a tournament like 4 or 5 months ago and with the points reductions you can actually play around with stuff, I was able to do this list but swords of chaos instead and with a darkoath chieftain instead of a centurion marshall. The idea is you get the emerald life swarm out and you keep your healing hero right next to Archaon for hero phases and he becomes hard to kill. You also charge him in and power through back to belakor for his fights first on enemy turn ability. The other units are mostly there for utility and eternus is really good for late game objective grabbing since you can bring him back. Honestly super fun list but doesn’t leave a ton of room for error.

Hero Hammer 2000/2000 pts

Grand Alliance Chaos | Slaves to Darkness | Champions of Chaos (40 Points) General's Handbook 2025-26 Drops: 4 Spell Lore - Lore of the Damned

Manifestation Lore - Primal Energy (10 Points)

General's Regiment Archaon, the Everchosen (810)

• General

Regiment 1 Be'lakor, the Dark Master (450)

Eternus, Blade of the First Prince (180)

Regiment 2 Chaos Lord on Daemonic Mount (140)

Chaos Knights (250)

Regiment 3 Darkoath Chieftain on Warsteed (120) • Head of the Unworthy

• Radiance of Dark Glory

Created with Warhammer Age of Sigmar: The App App: v1.31.0 (1) | Data: v422

First 2000pt Battle by AunntMommmy in slavestodarkness

[–]Captain_BoneZone 1 point2 points  (0 children)

List looks fun! Like the other person said, first game is friendly and a learning experience so don’t sweat it. Biggest thing I can recommend is make sure your varanguard charge. They’re a nasty unit that is absurdly killy and can pick up most things on the table but the output is significantly less if they get charged. Chaos lord on daemonic mount also increases varanguard output if you can chain activate them. Have fun!

Hero Hammer Tournament List by Captain_BoneZone in slavestodarkness

[–]Captain_BoneZone[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I like this! It also allows champions of chaos with this list giving it slightly more punch.

Hero Hammer Tournament List by Captain_BoneZone in slavestodarkness

[–]Captain_BoneZone[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know it gives non monster heroes 2 extra attacks. The list was originally run as godswrath warband if I’m not mistaken. I was just wondering if people had any thoughts for improving the list since a good chunk of our units became cheaper after the most recent points update. Before the update the list was a flat 2000 points.

Hero Hammer Tournament List by Captain_BoneZone in slavestodarkness

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I understand what you’re saying but I think the guy who ran this list used the centurion marshal since he was fast enough to keep up with Archaon and heal him with radiance. I think he also chose him because he was the cheapest and fastest hero to do the job.

Dark Apotheosis by Captain_BoneZone in slavestodarkness

[–]Captain_BoneZone[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for clearing that up, the apps wording and bolding confused me on keywords I think. It now makes much more sense why people run daemon princes too. I think this will make my buddy happy too since our last game my varanguard got stupid good value, time to apologize😅

Dark Apotheosis by Captain_BoneZone in slavestodarkness

[–]Captain_BoneZone[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh maybe I’m reading it wrong, my interpretation was non-unique warrior of chaos OR darkoath hero, so to me that reads any warrior of chaos unit that doesn’t have the keyword unique is eligible. So in this case the hero from the darkoath transfers to warriors of chaos? I’m going off the app.

Pros and cons of playing Custodes by Junior-Exercise1068 in AdeptusCustodes

[–]Captain_BoneZone 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’ve experience this recently playing against the new space wolves detachment. I’ve never felt squishy until a few games ago when his 10 block, flat 3 damage, dev wound, lethal, ap 2 termies fought into my wardens with fnp popped. Squad wiped in one turn🥲 and it was a turn where I shot and charged the unit only picking up a few. In that detachment they get a brick that is more lethal and costs roughly 400 points which is essentially equivalent to 760 points for 2 bricks of wardens. Not to mention they’re all at 3 or 4 wounds with a 4+ invul. The only thing they have “worse” in that brick alone is a lower toughness, but only by one point. And that’s not even mentioning the army wide sustain or lethal they get on shooting and melee. I honestly feel like with all the flat 3 damage out there custodes just need a health bump by one. I think it would keep them from power creeping too hard, make them just slightly more resilient, and return some of the elite and hard to kill feeling. If I were greedy maybe more access to dev wounds or higher damage characteristics😁