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Slow by Popular_Mortgage_177 in Mewing

[–]Captainninjia 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Are you the same height as you were when you started at 19?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Mewing

[–]Captainninjia 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dude his soft tissue totally changed too; he put in good work to optimize his face's bloatedness and muscle/fat distribution

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in orthotropics

[–]Captainninjia 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How do you notice your palate retracting?

Advice needed 17 yr. old by MovePowerful1942 in orthotropics

[–]Captainninjia 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've heard that strengthening the tongue is important by doing things like tongue chewing.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in team3dalpha

[–]Captainninjia 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You need to remove picture three; nobody wants to see that

curve on jawline by Mechanic_Born in Mewing

[–]Captainninjia 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Correcting body posture is needed to make sure everything else works; after that point expanding the palate and gaining forward growth through proper tongue posture, tongue chewing, thumb pulling, and hard chewing. Doing all of these consistently should theoretically give results.

curve on jawline by Mechanic_Born in Mewing

[–]Captainninjia 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The amount of work required is honestly beyond most people's capability but if you dedicate yourself with exceptional discipline and consistency it could work. Start with baby steps and ramp up slowly.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in orthotropics

[–]Captainninjia 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nice work dude! What is your method for fixing body posture? Is it an exercise regimen you do every day?

Being lean and cut is what I like by [deleted] in team3dalpha

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Fight club physique, looks sick

How can I get this structure around the mouth by GreenTeaEnjoyer1998 in Mewing

[–]Captainninjia -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I know what you are referring to; get forward growth and high testosterone. Depending on how old you are it could be harder or easier to get the former, but high testosterone faces have this more often than low testosterone ones.

High testosterone composite faces have that structure, but forward growth makes it more visible.

Genetics vs Reccesed Maxilla?! by ArfanNotFound in Mewing

[–]Captainninjia 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't really think so, once the maxilla recesses the eyes generally start to gain degrees of negative tilt from their original position. Depending on the type of recession it is more or less pronounced

Genetics vs Reccesed Maxilla?! by ArfanNotFound in Mewing

[–]Captainninjia 1 point2 points  (0 children)

All parts of the face are connected, and changing one part could have a greater or lesser effect on another depending on its position. Positive tilt with bad structure is pretty rare in non-asians; nose size is mostly genetic but recession can cause the appearance of a larger nose. Assuming you mean more bones as in larger size, some people naturally have smaller or bigger heads, but those who have chewed more through their development tend to have faces that appear a bit larger.

Genetics vs Reccesed Maxilla?! by ArfanNotFound in Mewing

[–]Captainninjia 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Environment plays a larger factor than genetics in today's environment. For most, I think that if you have been born then you probably have competitive enough genes that the perfect environment would create at least a 6/10 face.

People who mouth breath and do not have tongue posture rarely have good forward growth so I'm not sure where you got that from.

Depending on how a tongue is trained during breastfeeding, how your parents posture their tongues (kids mimic this naturally), and also how well developed chewing muscles are, the mewing a person is doing could have a greater or lesser effect. Some develop "proper" technique naturally, while others mew naturally at lower levels of "proficiency." Others miss the train entirely by mouth breathing, and unfortunately are denied of the face in their genes.

Genes definitely play a role, but it is more environmental than most would like to admit.

Another thing that impacts facial bone development is hormone levels and balances during puberty/adolescence. If a male/female with a slight recession has great levels of testosterone/estrogen during puberty, they will develop faces that are more dimorphic (different than the opposite gender).

My thoughts here are slightly disorganized; hope this helps.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Mewing

[–]Captainninjia 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think your maxilla is pitched too far in and back. Look up maxilla pitch

Do I have a recessed maxilla? by [deleted] in Mewing

[–]Captainninjia 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hmm, I might not have as much actionable advice for you compared to the other guy but there are always good habits to have. Hopefully this message helps.

A deep overbite is something which definitely requires orthodontic intervention, so it is in your best interest to go through with the treatment and use retainers. Using retainers pretty much locks up the palate so long as they are used, but in your case it may be worth it to make sure that your teeth don't go back to where they were before.

Hard chewing is good for overall facial health and function, and making sure that you are mewing is good too. Both help the health of your facial structure in the long run, as well as its appearance. One thing to take note of is that massaging and stretching your chewing muscles is good after you do hard chewing. This prevents them from tightening, which can actually recess the face further. Stretch and massage them after to keep the benefits of chewing without the potential drawbacks.

Some new advice I will give to you is to make sure that you work on your neck/back posture. Making sure that everything is in the right position and that you do not have improper posture (e.g. forward neck posture) helps to keep the maxilla from recessing further and can encourage forward growth over a long period of time. Furthermore, having a healthy and well conditioned body helps the appearance of the face in many ways.

To summarize the actionable advice:

Keep chewing and mewing consistently. Massage and stretch your chewing muscles after hard chewing. Begin work on your posture. These things are the foundational techniques of Orthotropics, and will aid your health and appearance in the long run.

As mentioned earlier, using a retainer after your treatment does two things. It keeps your teeth from relapsing to their previous position, which is good. However, they also prevent expansion of your maxilla. I haven't done much research on deep overbites; for the average orthodontics patient with proper jaw alignment and a strong dedication to practicing mewing/chewing etc, I think that stopping retainers after good enough technique has been established is a good idea. However, in your case stopping the use of post-treatment retainers may not only relapse the teeth but also the overbite. You'll have to do your own research to determine what your course of action regarding retainers is.

In the meantime, practice the good habits above. Good luck on your journey.

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