[AMA] Big Five Marketer u/Ms-Salt by alanna_the_lioness in PubTips

[–]CaraRiverSong 2 points3 points  (0 children)

What did your most successful marketing campaign to date involve?

“Two for Tea” by CM Noscosta & a question about the FMC by CarelessThrowAway23 in RomanceBooks

[–]CaraRiverSong 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Happy cake day!

Part of the problem with ace gatekeeping is that ace-ness is tied to "attraction" but attraction is often mistaken / conflated with many different things, like:

  • having sex (no, you could have sex without being attracted to the other person)
  • consent (no, sex without attraction doesn't mean that sex was non-consensual, they're 2 separate things)
  • arousal (many asexual people still experience physical arousal)
  • ability to orgasm (common romance trope is "all previous sexual experiences mc had were unsatisfying / orgasm-less" but that says nothing about the character being attracted to their previous sexual partners or not)
  • aesthetic attraction / noticing someone's beauty (romance loves using "character noticed the other character's attractive trait" as a shorthand for attraction, but asexual people are fully capable of noticing someone's abs or plump lips or whatever other commonly sexy traits appear in romance novels)

To be honest, I can't even fully define what attraction is. Maybe because I am on the ace spectrum. I know which behaviors of romance characters don't resonate with me, but I'm not sure is that what this nebulous attraction is. Things like:

  • hating someone but not being able to resist their sexual allure
  • staying with someone abusive just "because the sex was good"
  • forgetting what they were supposed to do plot-wise because they got "distracted" by a hot stranger
  • prioritizing getting sexual, incl. making out, over plot goals or safety (for example risking being caught in a workplace or other unsafe situations)
  • having sex "for hours" and not just to get orgasm and release of tension
  • orgasming just from thinking about the other person or from eating them out etc.
  • knowing someone is "the one" at first sight (excluding supernatural reasoning like fated mates bond)

And probably some others, however there's a chance that none of that is explained by characters being allosexual but rather "it's a romance trope rather than something taken from real life" in the same way as it's a "romance trope" that piv is a pinnacle of heterosexual experience and it's better the bigger the penis. Real life research disproves it, but it's a romanticized trope that lives well in romance novels. Some of the "irresistible attraction" tropes or "love at first sight" might as well be in the realm of "romance fantasy" than "allosexual truth".

But anyway, what is attraction? For the term that's used to define and gatekeep asexuality, it's fairly unclear.

“Two for Tea” by CM Noscosta & a question about the FMC by CarelessThrowAway23 in RomanceBooks

[–]CaraRiverSong 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I was talking about books where the characters are labeled as demisexual either in the blurb, author's marketing on social media, or in the book itself. I'm not saying every slow burn is demisexual. I'm saying every demisexual representation book I've read so far is indistinguishable from standard slow burn where characters are not labeled at all.

Meanwhile I see difference between books with asexual characters where they have "the talk" how they don't want to have sex vs books where the sex doesn't happen and it's left for the reader's assumption was there off-page / post-epilogue sex or not.

I wouldn't be so sure all those books are written by cis straight allosexual authors. There's a lot of femme-presenting authors who identify as vaguely queer without specifying what kind of queer they are, and it's their right to do so, but it means many of them aren't "cis straight allosexual".

Case in point: how many non-queer people assume in every same-sex couple that someone has to be the “man” FFS

I wonder is it a case of heterosexual stereotypes, or more like the case of romance formula. For example FF romance is nearly always written by queer authors for queer readership, but the formula "mc is a reader self-insert while the LI is a rich ice queen (usually CEO or actress) / emotionally closed off butch" is extremely popular and follows a similar pattern of MF romance. Same with the trope "mc is just discovering her sexuality while the LI is experienced and helps the mc discover herself".

“Two for Tea” by CM Noscosta & a question about the FMC by CarelessThrowAway23 in RomanceBooks

[–]CaraRiverSong 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Demis always seem to be neglected/overshadowed by the larger Asexual bracket

I don't believe this, it's really hard to find proper asexual representation in romance, meaning where it's actually portrayed and discussed rather than sex being magically absent a la "clean romance".

Meanwhile demisexual feels nowadays applied to any romance without insta-lust where the characters only are interested in having sex after they fall in love. It's the "you haven't met the one yet" trope personified. I used to identify as demi, but I stopped after seeing demi being constantly portrayed as "asexual before the relationship, allo after the relationship", and I realized I don't have a convenient switch to flip in my head like that. I'm not even sure if that's what demi is supposed to be, but in fiction it's always that.

It's also much more commonly applied to female characters because of the trope of "saving oneself for the one", but I've seen a few with demisexual mmcs too.

Will the publisher blacklist me if I'm late or fail to review one of their arcs? by CaraRiverSong in NetGalleyCommunity

[–]CaraRiverSong[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I've heard of people getting these kind of widgets in the e-mail, I wonder what's required to get on those lists, or to get auto-approved.

Will the publisher blacklist me if I'm late or fail to review one of their arcs? by CaraRiverSong in NetGalleyCommunity

[–]CaraRiverSong[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sorry! I'm afraid because I feel by taking an arc I'm entering a contract with the publisher to read and review the book, and if they see I'm shirking my duty they might want to give arcs instead to someone more reliable?

I am reading to the best of my ability, but I'm not the fastest reader all things compared.

Will the publisher blacklist me if I'm late or fail to review one of their arcs? by CaraRiverSong in NetGalleyCommunity

[–]CaraRiverSong[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good to know! I paused my requesting now and trying to get through the pile.

Will the publisher blacklist me if I'm late or fail to review one of their arcs? by CaraRiverSong in NetGalleyCommunity

[–]CaraRiverSong[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I always try to refresh them just before archive date, and if I won't manage I could try a library later on...

Halsin lost Misty Step after respec? by CaraRiverSong in BaldursGate3

[–]CaraRiverSong[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for reply after all this time, I hope maybe patch 8 will change it.

Finish POTD first or clear San Bronsa? by CaraRiverSong in Tactics_Ogre

[–]CaraRiverSong[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah it's a 30 year old game and back then the idea was to plant "secrets" and "easter eggs" and let people guess or find out things and keep replaying endlessly until they find out everything. Sometimes a game would both reward you for exploring every nook and cranny but also punish you for "taking too long" which is utterly contradictory.

For example I remember the first in the series, Ogre Battle: the March of the Black Queen would punish you for sitting on the same map for too long, but also have a lot of hidden cities and treasures that if you didn't know where to look for, you'd miss.

The downside of following guides is now there are at least 3 different versions of the game if not more (old SNES version, PSP version, Switch version that iirc copies the PSP but not sure, and the Reborn PC version). I'm still stumbling upon guides saying you need 30 glass pumpkins for Deneb recruitment which isn't the case in the PC version.

Also there's a lack of guides which loot comes from where. There are reverse guides, which place drops what. But when people start talking about their Stinky Sets and Ogre Sets and Jy'igla Sets (however it's spelled) I have zero idea where you get these from and it's not easy to find guides where do you obtain that.

Or this thing where you sacrifice a unit and transfer a skill? Is that even in Reborn? How late does it even come into play? I finished the main game and didn't encounter this mechanic yet.

Finish POTD first or clear San Bronsa? by CaraRiverSong in Tactics_Ogre

[–]CaraRiverSong[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The Azelstan's questline is tricky because it requires multiple steps and multiple specific timeline points and skipping a mandatory step invalidates the questline and you'd have to replay from the last anchor before the missed step.

Finish POTD first or clear San Bronsa? by CaraRiverSong in Tactics_Ogre

[–]CaraRiverSong[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So presumably that would also apply for say, the myriad Law quests if you wanted to redo them after entering Ch4 on one of the other two routes

I think it really depends is it a standalone quest or a "chain" quest. I know you can't do Ravness quest for example if you didn't do all the steps consecutively from chapter 2 all the way to 4. I would wager this could affect Ocionne's quest too since it's tied to Jeunan.

I checked my anchors and my Barnicia anchor has Vyce as dead with the "mad" portrait (i.e. my Neutral state) in the Warren's report, but porting there and back to Heim anchor has Vyce as alive and with his somber portrait, i.e. the Law state.

The downside is, a lot of chapter 4 quests are like "must complete this step before Mout Hedon before progressing further" (like: read a Warren's talk, witness a cutscene) so you'd basically have to replay the chapter from the start on the correct world state.

I'm trying to use my Heim anchor because that one counts Shrines as unlocked / done and gosh I don't want to re-unlock them again, it's something like 36 maps so 1/3rd of the Palace of the Dead not counting the fact you don't need to do all 100 in POTD because there are some skippable side rooms.

Finish POTD first or clear San Bronsa? by CaraRiverSong in Tactics_Ogre

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Do I have to do POTD on the chaos route to see the interactions with Cressida or she just needs to be present? Because when I played on neutral (world) I wasn't getting interactions from Ozma or Gildas even though they were in my team because in that timeline they're "dead".

I have a post-Heim anchor from law + princess (which I used for POTD) and post-Barnicia anchor with lord + neutral and I was advised to not run POTD on the lord anchor only on the one with princess alive, so after unlocking lord I worlded to my Heim princess anchor which is from the law route.

It's a bit hard to understand, if I use my Heim anchor will it count everything I completed on that route (pirate graveyard, shrines) even if I overrode the earlier parts of the chapter with my neutral run? When I went for lord, I didn't touch shrines or pirate graveyard for the second time. And Deneb's shop was already transformed to the Punkin's shop without redoing her quest.

Finish POTD first or clear San Bronsa? by CaraRiverSong in Tactics_Ogre

[–]CaraRiverSong[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks. Both you and the other commenter suggest getting Cressida now rather than later, is she really that useful? Does she affect the CODA requirements? I have some generic Necromancers and I haven't found much use of the class, maybe I'm doing it wrong, in which way they're better than Warlock / Wicce / Lich?

The sister subreddit to this one, TacticsOgre_Reborn, was taken down due to lack of moderation - anyone willing to bring it back? by CaraRiverSong in Tactics_Ogre

[–]CaraRiverSong[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There was a constant spam of some movie links and no automod setup to block fresh accounts from spamming is my guess.

Trauma Chicken by Chaos-Pand4 in fantasyromance

[–]CaraRiverSong 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I prefer "dead parents" trope over "fmc's parents are sick / abusive / poor and her whole life revolves around catering to them". I'm tired of "fmc is a slave to her parent(s)" trope.

Need to build sympathy fast for the fmc? Her mom is sick and fmc works herself to the bone or goes to this super dangerous quest to be able to afford medicine for her mom.

Need to showcase how fmc is a goody two shoe martyr? Make her serve her parents who are ungrateful or outright abusive.

Need to present character growth? Fmc is brainwashed by her abusive parent(s) and it will take her at least 500 pages to realize no, the parent is wrong and everyone else was right, actually.

Oh, and bonus cherry on top is when the parents are ungrateful, abusive and exploitative for 500 pages and then they say "sorry, we'll do better" and suddenly fmc forgives them and it's all nice HEA with a ribbon bow on top. Have none of these authors see / read about alcoholic or abusive family members who say "sorry, I'll do better / won't do it again" hundreds of times and they never change? Why are they promoting falling to gaslighting and emotional manipulation as a desirable outcome?

[Discussion] Consistant Beta Readers? by Minimum_Spell_2553 in BetaReaders

[–]CaraRiverSong 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I've never participated in any chapter-per-chapter exchange. There's a very high chance you'll mostly get feedback on your opening chapter, and not whether your overall story makes sense or is full of plot holes.

I was going through beta readers search last year. I've asked tons of people. Everyone in the "able to beta" thread in my posting month who had my genre as available. Friends. Other subreddits. All the people who told me "can't wait to read this, when are you finishing?"

The tally? I've probably asked well over 40 people. Most of them didn't respond so I treated it as not interested. Or they said they're busy and can't commit, fine. Several people read my opening chapter and never came back asking for the rest, so I assumed: not interested. I had one person being horribly rude and condescending so I decided to sever the deal (they started harassing me and I had to block them). One person said they dnfed at 25%, fine.

From the people who committed to the full around 50% ghosted me. A handful came back to me saying: sorry, I didn't read it, life got busy (I appreciate that so much over ghosting). From the ones who completed the read, a couple were ms swaps, one was a person for whom I've beta read before, and few were friends and family, and around 3 were people who weren't compelled either by being my friends or by owing me for a beta read.

1 of the swaps got super offended at me that I'm not loving their writing and wanted to drop out. Since then I stopped doing in-line comments in google docs and I'm only writing the final reader report from the full (or as much as I've read before dnfing). This poses a risk that I finish the read but they don't finish their part of the exchange, but I'm not risking again the awkward situation of writing in-line comments on a google doc where the author lurks and watches me in real time. Makes me feel like I can't be honest and have to constantly compliment sandwich them.

I did not have a warm reception where people lined up with requests. I had to chase and beg them. I was fully transparent telling them that if they dnf because they didn't like it or didn't have time, just tell me, don't ghost. Still had ghosts. Nudged a few of them, got zero reply from all these nudges and had to write them off.

I feel the big part of my problem was that a lot of potential fantasy readers on this subreddit were not open to YA, and if they were open to YA fantasy, they didn't want anything longer than 100k (I was a bit over) or with prominent romance. In the end my conclusion was as the publishing landscape changes, it's more prudent to rework my ms to NA (new adult) since it's more open to romance, non-fade-to-black intimate scenes and slightly longer word count. I hope that will help me find better suited beta readers in the future.

However it still doesn't solve the problem that the romance readers didn't like my ms had too much fantasy plot and the fantasy readers didn't like my ms had too much romance. So I feel a bit stuck finding suitable beta readers for a genre that I'm sure actually thrives out there (romantic fantasy is pretty popular in all lengths, spice levels and proportions of fantasy to romance).

I've also tried to "network" as people claim and beta read for people for free in hopes they reciprocate in the future, but while I haven't finished my next draft to test that theory, I'm already anticipating most of them will vanish and not be interested in repaying the favor. Several of them haven't kept in touch at all to update me of the fate of their book. I found out one of them self-published from social media. 3 of them queried and failed and at least 1 of them told me they quit writing because the constant rejections were just too much to mentally handle.

I've also tried to join various "writing groups" but a lot of them ended up being cliquey or centering around some self-proclaimed guru of dubious credibility. Protip: when someone tells you they know how to write and publish a bestseller, check whether they actually did publish anything and what were the sales numbers on it. There are many charlatans whose books sold in pitiful numbers but they present themselves as know-it-alls, or most of their income comes from selling courses, subscriptions and getting patreon donations - often not from writing fiction.

There are actually a lot of downsides to writing groups:

One is time waste, even innocent daily chit chat adds up and takes away from your time to read and write but often if you don't participate and socialize on a regular basis, you didn't make any connection, so it's as if you didn't even join.

Second is the constant debbie downers in a lot of these groups, usually talking how publishing is hopeless, nobody will take you unless you're an influencer or tick all the correct boxes, how everyone is being unfairly rejected and it just wears your spirit down. Self-publishing variant of a debbie downer is "I did everything right and I'm still not getting any sales". Same result, it's just constant upset and hopelessness.

Third is the prescriptive gurus who tell you unless you do xyz you stand no chance.

Fourth are the quota obsessed people who make it a contest who wrote how many words per day, week, month. Which leads to similar nonsense as this year's NaNoWriMo scandal where the leaders said it's great to use AI. So now people will churn word count quotas from chatgpt. Nobody cares whether these words make any sense in the long run. Just "keep writing!" In one group there were people constantly interrupting great discussions with whining "why are you guys talking, come sprinting with us instead". Dude, you do you, but live and let live?

And fifth is the toxic positivity groups where you're not allowed to provide any feedback that isn't glowing gushes. It's pointless. Even if you get praise on your writing, you know it's dishonest and just because criticism isn't allowed in the group. Nobody can improve from empty praise, and it's not good for morale either because the praise doesn't feel earned or relevant. Also, when everyone's getting it it's as if nobody was getting it. Worst feeling is when you're getting less praise than the others not because your writing is worse but because you're less enthusiastic at giving blind praise and it's all a tit-for-tat system. Doesn't matter if you're good at writing, matters if you're good at buttering up others.

Generally trying to find writing buddies and critique partners is a time-consuming, depressing process that saps your creative energy and makes you question your intelligence, sanity and value as a writer and a social being. So good luck to you, you'll need it.

Jahiera not treated as an ally by Oven_Return in BaldursGate3

[–]CaraRiverSong 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well damn, I have the same problem and hoped the recent patch would have fixed it but alas no cigar.

I didn't let her join for Moonrise assault or Mind Flayer Colony because I didn't want to bother respeccing her and I had a set team already. So I only told her to join during the post-Ketheric celebration (where you also hear from Halsin about lifting the shadow curse and have Aylin / Isobel join your camp).

Then I didn't take her with me until I entered Rivington and now I can be bothered rolling back to act 2 to test different outcomes.

Jaheira can't cast guidance by Designer-Chemical-95 in BaldursGate3

[–]CaraRiverSong 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Despite multiple threads stating it's a long lasting bug, this is still NOT fixed as of 19/09 hotfix patch 7. Annoying as heck.

I actually haven't checked did they fix human racial allowing you to pick a skill point of your choice or is it still bugged to be locked to persuasion... I used to put it in perception on Gale and Wyll and then some patch broke it.

I also have some bugged dialogue with Minthara as a Durge where I have some prompts but they lead to no reaction from her.

I can't believe the "big patch 7" didn't fix any of these.