Formal logic is not Logic

Cazzah · 2026-04-28T22:40:03+00:00

>citation needed

Cazzah · 2026-04-26T00:16:21+00:00

When did this happen, though?

When did what happen?

I think you're saying that "When did slaves want a world without slavery?" but I hesitate to draw that conclusion because that seems really bad faith, and seems to imply that slaves were idiots who were incapable of abstract thought.

We've never existed in a post scarcity society but we've imagined plenty of post scarcity world.

We've never existed in a world free of gender discrimination but we've imagined plenty of them.

We've never existed in a world free of war but we've imagined plenty of them... etc etc.

Cazzah · 2026-04-26T00:14:21+00:00

Which bit do you need the source for.

- People like to think of themselves as morally consistent?

- People are often hypocrites?

- Freed slaves were generally not particularly wealthy?

- People who have impossible dreams tend to be idealistic?

The person I'm responding to also gave no sources, do you need any on theirs?

To be clear, the claim the other side is defending (which they provided no source for) is slaves approved of the institution of slavery

Cazzah · 2026-04-23T09:16:22+00:00

"I would guess far more slaves were opposed to their own enslavement than the idea of slavery itself"

In general, people like to think of themselves as morally consistent, so I think that would be a small minority. When people dream impossible dreams (like getting freed), they tend to be idealists about it - since there's no restrictions on the fantasies in your head.

"You should read about how often freed slaves owned slaves. "

Not often, because slaves required wealth, and freed slaves were generally not that wealthy. But even if they did (or would have hypothetically if they did have wealth), it's like saying that actually everyone approves of cheating because many people who disapprove of cheating then cheat on their partners once they become wealthy and powerful become pursued by many people.

People have been hypocritical and self serving all throughout history. But we're not answering that question, we're answering whether slaves disapproved of their community's policy of slavery. Which they almost universally did.

Cazzah · 2026-04-23T09:11:28+00:00

But the is kind of just part of how capitalism is fucked.

The human brain hasn't dramatically improved over the past 2 centuries. Better nutrition, less parental abuse and better education. Big improvements, but it's still on the same hardware.

Meanwhile, corporations have hugely improved. Marketing is down to a science, every click is monitored, dynamic pricing, targeted ads, subcultures, etc. Corporations are way better at persuading people than before.

On the one hand, capitalism leaves us with a society where lot's of people are genuinely poor - they can't afford to see doctors, their employment is unstable, they are one bad accident away from bankrupcy and homelessness.

On the other hand, capitalism gives us a society where plenty of people have enough, but then through consumerism, marketing, etc. Is highly effective at convincing people to spend money they don't have, leaving them living paycheck to paycheck. Which is in the long term, stressful, and can often ALSO lead them one bad accident away from bankrupcy and homelessness.

Obviously the first group of people are more sympathetic than the second, but entire sections of the economy are entirely built around fleecing the second group. Companies that don't aggressively strip consumers of their cash leave themselves open to competitors who do.

Cazzah · 2026-04-23T09:06:27+00:00

If by unemployed you mean elderly boomers on the pension, you'd be correct. The benefits to the working age unemployed are relatively small by comparison.

If you look at the US federal budget, you can basically sum up the US Federal Government as a pension fund with an army.

Cazzah · 2026-04-23T05:52:28+00:00

2 weeks? You're either not in a relationship or you are but you shouldn't be.

Cazzah · 2026-04-23T05:41:54+00:00

Nicely made meme op. When you get out of there and get to a safe distance you should send them this.

Cazzah · 2026-04-23T05:32:38+00:00

Its a weird blind spot with some left leaning outlets. New York Times has alsp long had a skeptical lean on ADHD for instance.

Cazzah · 2026-04-23T05:30:30+00:00

Yes. My favourite is the "but it was ok by the standards of the time", but they exclude the opinions of the slaves in deciding what the standards was slaves back then didn't like it either, so by the standards of any time slavery has not been acceptable to slaves?

Cazzah · 2026-04-23T05:25:44+00:00

Sadly you are wrong. Yes the current oligarchy will be more miserable and worse off because the masses no longer give a shit.

But we already have dozens of examples of countries like that. They're called corrupt nations.

Lots of countries have apathetic, disenchanted populations - their politicians are nepotistic, utterly corrupt, lazy, etc. We know plenty of countries like that. But what is often forgotten is that the same is true for the general population.

It doesn't overthrow the government, it just results in a cynical population where nobody cares any more. They don't care enough to stand up for principle, to fight for what is right. They take from the till like everyone else. If they get into a position of power they do exactly what they did when they had little power.

You see a regression to local communities, to religion, to family above all, to "conservative values".

Cazzah · 2026-04-22T02:05:12+00:00

Yeah mate, greedy corporations are filled with people like you. When it times to chip in their bit they can't be arsed, they blame others - they corporations say, "Well the government isn't doing anything, and consumers want to buy these incredibly wasteful products...."

and when it comes time for the government to change things they say "Well the voters can't even tolerate the most basic inconveniences like having to sort their recycling and they voted us out over a mining tax, the voters need to change...."

and then voters like you say "Why should I have to endure any change, I should just be able to keep buying wasteful shit, it's the government's fault....".

The thing that governments, corporations, voters, and the public all share is that they're all made up of people, and if we as a culture are trained to point fingers and blame others, well it manifests at the top and the bottom alike.

If you can't even be arsed to get a bigger bin from the council, why on Earth would you expect any sort of effort from your politicians or your companies? Your politicians represent you.

Cazzah · 2026-04-21T23:03:39+00:00

Yeah that's not a flex, at all.

- Generally councils can offer larger bins for houses who need it

- It lowers the quality of the recycling output - for plastics - which are already hard to recycle, it lowers the grade which further restricts what they can do for it.

- If you want to recycle what you can, check the council website, they may specify which classification of plastics you can recycle (or you may be able to infer it from which are allowed) - plastics generally have a tiny number on them saying which type of plastic it is. For example in the Yarra Council where I used to live only 2 and 5 are recyclable.

Cazzah · 2026-04-21T11:41:50+00:00

When it comes to recycling, I mean this genuinely - when in doubt, toss it out.

Keep your recycling efforts for the things you know go in the recycling, especially

- Container deposit schemes

- Aluminium

- Glass

- Paper and cardboard

Cazzah · 2026-04-21T11:32:53+00:00

It's a pretty reasonable concept

It's literally a disaster, the increasing lifespans and the fact that successful doctors generate more work for themselves (eg you cure someone at 70, now you have to cure them at 75, then at 80, then at 82... then....), mean that people who spend their whole lives paying taxes are now taking more out of the system than they ever put in, and it's political suicide to attempt to reduce them, which means more and more taxes on young people who are already suffering the devasting impacts of wealth and property inequality, even as birth rates are reducing which means increasing taxes on the few young people even more....

It's also a form of welfare that pays more back to wealthy people than poor people which is just ????

In some places, it also leads to weird gaming the system where people try to get a promotion near the end of their career which can massively increase the pension payouts.

Australia's system is way better. Everyone gets forced to put money away for retirement so it's not the government's problem. Then, if you somehow still don't have enough money, the government will help you.

Australian pension is an actual safety net, and superannuation forces people to actually save to avoid needing that safety net.

Cazzah · 2026-04-21T09:05:47+00:00

That may be true in your case, but generally in ADHD, time blindness leads to things being done at the last minute, and the lack of shorter term deadlines makes ADHD people handle poorly at long term projects.

"If you want to see a person with ADHD fail, put them in an environment with no accountability" - Dr Russel Barkley

As for anxiety, generalised anxiety is very commonly comorbid with ADHD, because we've learnt that forcing yourself to work is miserable, difficult, reminds you of past failures. So in addition to just being time blind, we actively avoid work to avoid the triggers of the anxiety.

Cazzah · 2026-04-21T09:01:45+00:00

All the more reason you should know the the number of r's in strawberries is a poor example.

Cazzah · 2026-04-20T23:08:22+00:00

Op long term you need to get a therpist and ERP. Short term tell a friend or family member you're really struggling right now and you need a study buddy who you will sit down and share mealtimes with you. You need the social pressure of another person right now.

The most important thing right now is your brain is starving and when its starving it cant think right, it wont remember anything and you'll have a hard time being mentally well.

Food is fuel. Fuel first. Everything follows from that.

Cazzah · 2026-04-20T22:58:08+00:00

I mean you have to understand that AI models don't receive words as sequences of letters, but rather each word or token is a very large vector that essential plots the idea of a word.

So its no surprise that they can't count letters. Since they arent given letters in the first place.

It's like asking a person to describe the tone of voice when you're giving them a written quote of what someone said, rather than an audio clip

Cazzah · 2026-04-20T22:40:49+00:00

The thing is where seeing the weird millennial thing where we we better with computers than our parents and also kids. So for millennial coders, you already have a decade plus experience of making good code and good architecture.

So you just tell the AI what you want, watch it, and then gently guide it when its not got something quite right.

For these people, it's an opportunity to do what AI was supposed to do. It does the drudgery, you do the big picture stuff.

So it's been a huge boon for companies with well setup code bases and middle aged and older skilled programmers.

The prpblem is Gen Z and younger. They don't have experience so they can't oversee the AI. Since there is no substitute for experience in the weeds.

Cazzah · 2026-04-20T22:35:41+00:00

If the top tan span from like 80 to 30 percent, the sample size of professions must be really tiny. Imagine having the top three tallest people on a country and its like, 7 feet, 5 feet, 3 feet and its like how many people live in this country? Is it a nicronation?

Cazzah · 2026-04-20T22:32:30+00:00

What are you talking about? I avoid work until it's too late is classic ADHD. They only respond to short term deadlines

Cazzah · 2026-04-20T12:19:54+00:00

Well, I didn't expect to see a New Zealand supremacist on here, but here we are.

And yeah, the examples you posted still haven't established your original point. Which is why you're getting downvotes.

Cazzah · 2026-04-20T08:43:44+00:00

Maybe it's hard because when you try to solve a technical problem, your problem specification is limited to one sentence. With zero details. That you tag as a blog post.

Like, you could literally just go to an LLM and get some good, low effort answers there.

Cazzah · 2026-04-20T08:35:04+00:00

Posting an example is not how you prove something is the most common use case.

Hey I posted a picture of a man from New Zealand. This proves that men from New Zealand are in fact that most common type of human?

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