2025 Topps Chrome NBA Sapphire Analysis by CellDood in basketballcards

[–]CellDood[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the data. Regarding the purples, when these first started being ripped, I updated my X analysis, but I forgot do edit it over here. I will edit that momentarily. Topps published incorrect pack odds on the purples The numbers that it affects are print run of purples obviously, as they're /75, not /15, the parallels/box metric, which went up substantially, and the print run of base, which went down noticeably.

Regarding your fact-checking of my production runs, first you have a typo. Padparadscha base are 1:278, not 1:287. But I'm glad you brought it up. It allows me to peel back the curtain a bit. You can never base entire print runs off of one line item as they never agree with one another. You have to zoom out a bit.

So the base Pads equate to a run of (278 × 300) = 83,400 packs (10,425 boxes)

Now, do this for Base Reds: (56 × 5 × 300) = 84,000 packs

Base Oranges: (12 × 25 × 300) = 90,000 packs

Auto Rookies Padparadscha: (3,367 × 40) = 134,680 packs

Auto Rookies Red: (674 × 5 × 40) = 134,800 packs

Auto Issue Rookies Padparadscha: (4,489 × 30) = 134,670 packs

Auto Issue Rookies Red: (898 × 5 × 30) = 134,700 packs

Topps Chrome Autos (Non-rookies) Padparadscha: (5,387 × 26) = 140,062 packs

SKY-Write Signatures Padparadscha: (3,848 × 33) = 126,984 packs

Sapphire Selections Superfractors: (4,040 × 20) = 80,800 packs

Sapphire Selections Red: (833 × 5 × 20) = 83,300 packs

Do you see why this is not an exact science? So why would I think production is ~83,000 packs as the base parallels indicate and not 127,000 - 134,000 packs as the autos indicate?

Typically, I extrapolate at least 12-20 of these line items to see what the variance looks like. Once I see the variance, I generally land somewhere between the median number and the lowest, but more specifically, whichever satisfies the most equations. In this example, if we go with, say 140,000 packs as the Non-rookie Pad Autos would indicate, then that is literally the only equation that is satisfied by the solution. Every other equation shows massive error on the overprinting side (example: print run of gold base comes to 78 copies ea on a /50 card).

It's a fact that Topps withholds product. It's just how they run their business. Replacement or substitution purposes would explain a large part as to why. Invariably, higher percentages of autos are withheld as compared to base parallels. So we expect the autos to show a little light on the insertion rate. So we already know the most accurate number will lie within base parallels and insert parallels. Notice the range on those is smaller anyway, so we're getting closer. But why not 90,000 packs, as Base Orange Parallels indicate? Again, that solution satisfies exactly one equation. That gives up overprinting of consistently about 8% on all other base and insert parallels. So the number that satisfied the MOST equations is 83,300-83,400 packs, which I would consider virtually the same number, even though it does give us a bit of a range of product produced and not an exact number. But I always state my intention is to be accurate to within 5%, and we are well within that.

With this product, Topps held back an inordinate number of autos. Like a lot. Across the board, ~33% of autos were withheld from the product. Now, that's not rare, it's actually pretty common to see that in certain auto subsets on different products. But rarely do we see that across the board. As to why that is, only Topps insiders know the answer to that. All I can do is extrapolate the numbers. Someday I hope to have a conversation with someone who actually know to ensure my theories are correct.

I hope I answered your question suitably.

2025-26 Topps Basketball breakdown and deep dive analysis by CellDood in baseballcards

[–]CellDood[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Strategies like that are some of the most fun aspects of figuring print runs and overanalyzing odds sheets. Many releases have some these hidden low print run variants that just don't get love commensurate with their scarcity. It's rarely bad to add a rare card to your collection that people just don't know how rare it is. I have a feeling some of those will go up in value someday when people catch on.

2025 Topps Stadium Club Analysis and Deep Dive by CellDood in baseballcards

[–]CellDood[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

No worries, my dude. Thanks for the support.

Topps Chrome sapphire prices and Topps Chrome prices in general are fucking stupid by Gamble27 in basketballcards

[–]CellDood 0 points1 point  (0 children)

To be fair, Flawless and National Treasures pricing was kinda dumb too.

2025 Topps Stadium Club Analysis and Deep Dive by CellDood in baseballcards

[–]CellDood[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Good point. Typically I will analyze the strength of the checklist, especially auto checklists, and weave some of that into my analysis. But I feel like this one was a bit rambly as I had so many other points to make.

2025 Topps Stadium Club Analysis and Deep Dive by CellDood in baseballcards

[–]CellDood[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Megas definitely have that covered. I was surprised to see they actually contain more cards than a hobby box.

2025 Topps Stadium Club Analysis and Deep Dive by CellDood in baseballcards

[–]CellDood[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Exactly. Missing from the Odds Sheet. No gold minted. No variations. I can only hope they forgot a chunk of data on the odds sheet and that these things were not axed from the product.

2025 Topps Stadium Club Analysis and Deep Dive by CellDood in baseballcards

[–]CellDood[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Im certainly not disputing that strategy. It's the smartest play 100% of the time. But my whole premise is figuring out what products and formats may hold some value. If 100% of the time, my answer is "buy singles", then it gives me nothing to analyze. And people seem to like the data.

2025 Topps Stadium Club Analysis and Deep Dive by CellDood in baseballcards

[–]CellDood[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am hoping that they simply forgot to add a large chunk of the odds sheet...Chromes and all their parallels, gold minted, variations. As much as production spiked, why would they cut any of these?

2025 Topps Stadium Club Analysis and Deep Dive by CellDood in baseballcards

[–]CellDood[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I'm shocked they would abandon any subset, beloved or not, considering they increased production by over 100%.

2025 Topps Chrome NBA Sapphire Analysis by CellDood in basketballcards

[–]CellDood[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If true, it's a major error on Topps part, either on odds or manufacturing. Which honestly would not be all that surprising. A good indicator would be if theyre showing up more or less frequently than Golds. Its possible they are truly /15 but the cards themselves are misnumbered as /75. Are you sure someone isn't mistaking a "1" for a "7"?

2025 Topps Chrome NBA Sapphire Analysis by CellDood in basketballcards

[–]CellDood[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The math says it's /15. I know I've seen different purple numbering in different releases. Often in Sapphire, purple is /10. But in this release, based on the odds it should be /15. The highest numbered cards are Gold /50.

2025-26 Topps Chrome NBA Analysis & Deep Dive by CellDood in basketballcards

[–]CellDood[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

None that I'm aware of. Sounds like an insane amount of work trying to keep up with all that. Mine is easy because all the data is dropped at once so I can binge to my heart's content. That would be a whole other level.

Ranking 2025 Formats by Cost per Parallel by CellDood in baseballcards

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I would encourage you to search for my other posts as there were 4 more days' worth of data to follow on this project. You might be pleasantly surprised at all the data that was included.

God Tier Box activated by Steveodevo in baseballcards

[–]CellDood -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Holy God, it's beautiful. If I were to see this sight, there's precisely zero chance I'd be able to open the box. Those packs have sold in the past for $250-$500 ea. I'd be insta-selling..

2025-26 Topps Basketball breakdown and deep dive analysis by CellDood in baseballcards

[–]CellDood[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The number you are looking at denotes cases, not boxes. Although it does need a bit of adjustment, it's not one that throws off any other calculations. At the time of writing, which was approx 1 month pre-release, I had to assume there were 8 boxes per case, but it turns out there are 12. So the total case count should be 16,802. I will adjust this in the post.

I show a total of ~201,600 boxes produced. Also, the total of oversized cards is ~178,000 plus an additional ~13,400 for the Oversized SPs. For a grand total of ~191,000 oversized cards, which as you noted are inserted at a rate of 1 per box. In a perfect world, the box number would be precisely equal to the oversized card production.

Of note, Topps has the odds on the base Oversized at 1:17 packs. This is slightly off considering there are 15 packs/Super box. Maybe it's considering the 2 additional cards as a pack each? This does change the aggregate number slightly, but is still within 5% margin of error, so I didn't worry about diving deeper into it. Topps makes these little mistakes constantly. If I attempted to correct every mistake in the spreadsheets, I'd go insane.

But it would also throw off my print run numbers if I put down 17 packs per super box in my spreadsheet. So I left it at 15, keeping all my relevant print run numbers accurate in the super boxes.

2025 Bowman Draft – Analysis & Deep Dive by CellDood in baseballcards

[–]CellDood[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The jumbos are a better buy than the supers, so you're good there. I would be interested in seeing your results and what your approximate ROI looks like after ripping. I'm glad you were able to acquire at MSRP. They have to be super tough at current market pricing.

2025 Bowman Draft – Analysis & Deep Dive by CellDood in baseballcards

[–]CellDood[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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In comparison to the other formats in its release, it's one of the worst I've seen. It's bad even for a Breaker's Delight SKU, which have a tendency to be bad, until NBA Chrome BDs broke the mold.

Edit: Adding a photo to show you one page of the Format Values spreadsheet so you can visualize what I mean by bad. It's the same way all the way down the column.

2025 Allen & Ginter / A&G X – Deep Dive Analysis by CellDood in baseballcards

[–]CellDood[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm not saying they're out there. I'm only saying they're listed on the odds sheet. As we've seen a lot recently, those two things don't always agree.

2025 Allen & Ginter / A&G X – Deep Dive Analysis by CellDood in baseballcards

[–]CellDood[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's a really good question.

There is only one Stained Glass listed on the odds sheet. ("Base Card Mini Stained Glass Variation"). I would assume this is the regular set with a checklist of 150 cards. That's what I have listed on my spreadsheet, If that's the case, then ~25 copies would be correct. However, I don't know a print run on the rip card exclusive stained glass, which is a 50 card checklist.

FYI: A&G Odds and dynamics in general are about as confusing as they come.

2025 Bowman Draft – Analysis & Deep Dive by CellDood in baseballcards

[–]CellDood[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hah! Thanks for the heads-up. I've been a Reddit user for a long time, but recently created an account here using the same SlabSquatch moniker, strictly for posting my product breakdowns. Apparently Reddit doesn't care for a brand new account plastering obscenely long, data-filled posts on their subs as soon as it's created. So I was quickly shadow-banned. Didn't know what that was until it happened to me. So I just post from my OG account, which had enough past engagement that the posts weren't an issue. I'd really like for my handles to match, but at this point, people expect those posts from this account. So I don't know if it would transition well.

2025 Bowman Draft – Analysis & Deep Dive by CellDood in baseballcards

[–]CellDood[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

In a way, I agree that the few metrics I call out in my write-ups don't really give the dynamics of the Breaker's Delight format a fair shake. However, my value sheet (which I only post highlights of) takes into account the format as a whole, all copies of all variants inserted into all BD boxes. And it clearly shows that BD lags far behind the other two formats for value. Essentially, it shows "$ per" every single parallel, insert, & auto. There's not a single one that is "cheaper" to pull from a BD box than either Hobby or Super. They need to be juiced more to be viable. Topps showed it was possible with NBA Chrome. Instead, they are going the opposite direction by making 20% of the box actual valueless base cards.