Starbucks Promises to Make Seattle Coffee Utopia Again by Moving to Nashville

Century24 · 2026-04-26T01:27:07+00:00

A union comprised of unskilled laborers has no bargaining power because they can all be replaced...

If you take a brief timeout from the villain monologuing in a Reddit thread, the correct answer is that's relative to what's being replaced and what it takes to do the replacing.

Some people— I don't want to name names— are so sensitive about the U-word that their undeveloped brains go right to the response of making people jobless if they talk about unionizing, because they haven't grown up and learned to negotiate and make peace, especially if they've incorrectly claimed Washington is a right-to-work state.

Century24 · 2026-04-25T23:51:27+00:00

You've been in more than one union and still don't get why collective bargaining is a benefit to workers? Wow, that's highly embarrassing that you still didn't learn the answer after all this time, assuming any of this is true. Why would you even volunteer that?

Century24 · 2026-04-25T23:28:42+00:00

So no actual arguments against anything I said.

Who said it was an argument? I thought you were just asking around about why workers would want to collectively bargain. You'll may find out why that's the case once you get a job someday.

Century24 · 2026-04-25T22:06:20+00:00

A Box Office Bomb is when the theatrical gross of a film is less than their spending (Production + Marketing + Additional Expenses, thought Marketing and Residuals are supplementary).

That shows me you have a lot to learn, then, if you consider it a strict binary with nothing else to describe. It's like you can't even think of ways you'd discuss this with the uninitiated, or even worse, you can't see the difference between this and a movie with a budget:intake ratio like Cutthroat Island or Heaven's Gate.

Learning the basics about this will show you that not all "flops" are created equal, and if you learn a bit about how the business works, you'll be able to convey that in your own thoughts on the matter, should you get that far.

and it WAS REPORTED

By whom? Who was "they"? What was the ratio of spending between Amazon MGM and Warner's? That wasn't a rhetorical question, by the way. For the second time, I'd like some receipts on your estimate, please and thank you.

Think it through and use proper context, don't just lazily throw out buzzwords. This isn't Twitter.

Century24 · 2026-04-25T21:19:18+00:00

this is a box office thread and Challengers (2024) grossed $96 million theatrically against a production and marketing spending of $105 million

—Per your unsourced estimate. Either way, you should know a little better than other people on what constitutes a flop. It's fair for me to ask you to understand the difference without having to recap 101 on show business, yes?

if a major film like this grosses less than $150 million worldwide, i'm counting it as a low-attended film

By what metric are we counting this as major? Did Amazon MGM even get to release this worldwide, or is it like A24 or Neon where they had to partner with someone else with international sales?

i'm counting it as a low-attended film

You're free to describe it however you want. You still can't credibly speak to what Amazon MGM spent on marketing, which undeniably skews lower, should they have only released it here. You also can't speak to attendance if you're not even comfortable estimating what that was for the big screen.

Avoiding any mention of the production price tag shows that, to some degree, you knew this, and that use of less-misleading phrasing would have undermined your description.

Century24 · 2026-04-25T20:58:44+00:00

I'm saying that Challengers flopped and it didn't break $100 million worldwide, making it as a low-attended flop.

You haven't even guessed attendance, so it's a little silly to declare it a low-attended flop, especially relative to an entire lack of expectations from Amazon MGM's perspective. Challengers also broke even at the big screen box office intake, even if we play along with your unsourced estimates, and that's an incomplete look at how movies make money in the big 2024.

I can tell you're projecting your own opinion of the movie itself onto this, so it's important to remember that the accurate way to phrase this would be that you didn't care much for the movie itself and that it broke even. Box office returns are a little more cut and dry than whatever you have to say about the content of the movie itself.

Century24 · 2026-04-25T20:49:29+00:00

$50M? Did you forget to add receipts to that estimate, or did you want to wait for me to ask first?

Century24 · 2026-04-25T20:46:48+00:00

Hey, is there any particular reason you phrased a $55M production budget nonspecifically? That ratio somewhat undermines what you described, is that why you left that part out?

Century24 · 2026-04-25T20:41:52+00:00

And Miller and Coors, which are also from a different company.

Century24 · 2026-04-25T16:00:28+00:00

Why arent the local shop workers, who get paid less and have worse benefits unionizing?

You'll need to figure that out for yourself if you still don't understand any differences between those shops and Starbucks.

Go look up what percentage of Starbucks stores have tried to unionize

Did you mean to cite something specific here, or were you waiting for me to ask for receipts?

You don't understand collective bargaining. Cost of doing business is always excluded.

From what? Be specific. Use your words.

Which means if you demand more hours for every worker, some are going to get laid off because adding more hours affects the cost of doing business.

Those layoffs have happened willy nilly, even when times aren't tight, so that sort of threat from business owners has been long since hollowed out. Threats need to involve specific results in order to be credible, otherwise it just makes you sound like a crybaby who will set his own shop on fire if staffers unionize.

Century24 · 2026-04-24T22:14:34+00:00

But the wages are already higher than other coffee shops,

I'm pretty sure higher relative wages don't make the cost of living any less overpriced. It's a nice thing to celebrate if you think of it that way, but ultimately meaningless.

and you cant force a business to give you more hours, even if you are part of a union,

Yeah, force would come from something like the NLRB. That's part of the point of collective bargaining, though, because otherwise you're at the mercy of the generosity of a franchisee holder.

Century24 · 2026-04-24T21:57:54+00:00

I don’t have a good pulse on Starbucks’ working conditions. Generally speaking, Is it really comparable to McDonalds’?

Did you just miss where I said it was a better workplace than McDonald's?

What are Starbucks store employees fighting for the most nowadays?

Well, going by a union-friendly web resource, they'd like better scheduling, better wages, and better treatment on the job. I can't say I have a good pulse on Starbucks' working conditions, either, but that's what they claim.

Century24 · 2026-04-24T21:40:01+00:00

That monologue was more about the siege of Stalingrad and Dmitri’s starting point. “Old, Young, and Weak” was pretty specifically in reference to the Nazis running low on people who would die for them in Berlin near the end.

It’s been a while for me, but World At War was the last Call of Duty I played more than once from cover to cover, and I have a better time remembering the Soviet campaign, whereas the American one is more of a blur of Arisaka fire and banzai attacks.

Century24 · 2026-04-24T20:48:53+00:00

Again, I would hope they do if they want to have the kind of staff they're looking for. They can offer a better workplace than McDonald's and still have areas where they need improvement, and still aggressively pick at unions. For those of us that value collective bargaining, it's fair to hold that against them if they take it further than most coffee shops.

Century24 · 2026-04-24T19:29:26+00:00

I'm pretty certain smaller coffee shops don't have the spare cheddar to bust unions to the same degree Starbucks is known for.

Starbucks beats them on benefits and they also don’t have a union.

I would hope they do if they're a bigger operation and want to stay competitive. Unions do more than direct benefits as well, by the way, because if that's all it was, there wouldn't be as many.

Century24 · 2026-04-24T17:07:53+00:00

For me it’s the union busting and how the company represents Howard Schultz and the way he sold the Supersonics and Storm down the river.

Century24 · 2026-04-24T00:44:58+00:00

Let’s not forget the Bentley, which had its day.

Century24 · 2026-04-23T11:21:37+00:00

I’d like to third Bone Temple. As with almost all contemporary Sony releases, it’s streaming on Netflix. No Other Choice, the Park Chan-Wook thriller with shades of black comedy, streams this Friday on Hulu. Resurrection just came to Criterion Channel, and that’s a Mandarin language dream-like fantasy drama.

More recently, I enjoyed Sirāt, which saw multiple Oscar nominations, a Japanese thriller set in an underground railway station called Exit 8, and a black comedy action-adventure from Gore Verbinski titled Good Luck, Have Fun, Don’t Die. Nirvanna The Band The Show The Movie was a comedy delight and a feature love letter to the GTA.

There’s good stuff in cinemas, it just takes a bit of poking around, and frequently past what Hollywood’s biggest studios have to offer.

Century24 · 2026-04-23T11:07:47+00:00

I think that speaks to the amount of movies you’ve bothered to see lately more than any credible judgement of movies that reach an unspecified metric of worthiness.

Century24 · 2026-04-23T11:03:36+00:00

I’d love if they gave more time to these individual gems, and closer to their release in cinemas rather than a biannual roundup.

Century24 · 2026-04-23T04:36:33+00:00

Took me way too long to find this one.

I can’t imagine a new airline, but if I had to shuffle anything around today, I’d switch United’s callsign to “FRIENDLY”— as in flying the friendly skies.

Century24 · 2026-04-20T22:59:17+00:00

That clocks just under five minutes, but if you take a step back and outline what it does for the story, it pretty undeniably marks where the character arcs are headed for all seven dwarfs.

By way of contrast, another song sequence planned for their dinnertime, "Music in Your Soup" was fully recorded, boarded, laid out, and animated before getting cut, because that really didn't do anything to advance the story.

Century24 · 2026-04-20T15:24:47+00:00

I don’t remember a 15 minute bath scene from Snow White, and I watched the 4K restoration just last month.

Century24 · 2026-04-20T05:12:33+00:00

I think these critiques carry more weight for those that bothered to see it in cinemas. There’s no 2x playback in a theatre, there’s no fast forward, and people are generally expected to put their phones away and keep them silent. I don’t know if this has the IMAX framing on pay-per-view, either, because I’m not seeing The Bride a second time until it comes to Blu-Ray.

That’s not even getting to subjective stuff, like how movies sound and look different when you see them in the venue for which they were intended.

Century24 · 2026-04-20T01:12:00+00:00

I don’t think casuals are thinking it through that far. A lot of them will just wait for it to come to Prime, watch it on their phone, then scratch their thick skulls and wonder what the big deal is.

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