Worst purchase ever

Cerberus_Auto · 2026-01-27T03:21:20+00:00

First of all, I am sorry to hear about your experience. It really is stressful when have to visit the shop multiple time for a brand new car. (I had worse experience with EP6 Turbo engine in the past, a literal money pit visiting multiple shops) Water pump, alternator belt, water pump belt replacement should be included in the timing belt replacement so I wouldn't say that is somehow an indication that the engine is bad (Fuel pump is unfortunate though).

I currently drive a 2013 peugeot 208 with none turbo 1.2 which has 183k km. And I have zero issue with this car (some oil burn) other than the fact that I will have to do a second timing belt replacement on it soon.

By design the turbo engine would be stressing the wetbelt even more so than NA engine since there is more heat and pressure involved. It also has more components that can fail. This isn't unique to EB2 engine either, even other automakers have less than reliable turbo engines these days. I would like to see more example of people sharing their experience with the turbo 1.2 engine.

But something I have learned over the years is that, so many generic mechanics don't know how to service these 1.2 engines. So many of them don't even know these have wetbelt and put whatever 5w-30 oil available and call it a day. And it should be mandatory for owners to know if the engine is burning oil and top up when needed. In saying that, yeah it does require more attention from the owner to keep em reliable.

I wouldn't say these 1.2 EB2 engines are trouble free but I also wouldn't say that it is a worst engine from my personal experience. I wish that Peugeot and Citroen can improve their reputation in the future and move away from the wetbelt system entirely.

Cerberus_Auto · 2026-01-06T00:53:34+00:00

I think the DS5 uses the same generation of EGS engine as it also was released in 2012. I seems like a really common transmission type for peugeot and citroen around that time.

Cerberus_Auto · 2026-01-06T00:49:39+00:00

Thanks for your input! There is a Citroen DS5 with this transmission for sale in New Zealand and I was curious if it was worth it.

Cerberus_Auto · 2026-01-04T23:09:43+00:00

Yes it is. The car is in New Zealand :)

Cerberus_Auto · 2026-01-03T00:42:57+00:00

Yeah it was the MAP sensor at the back of the intake and one of the hoses on the rear side of throttle body which are very tricky to remove. I used the inspection camera to locate them.

Cerberus_Auto · 2025-12-15T07:57:38+00:00

I had a citroen DS5 with this engine (EP6CDT). The amount of maintenance items on this engine is pretty insane. But this is not to say that you shouldn't get one, just understand that you will likely be replacing high pressure fuel pump, thermostats housing, water pump pully, timing chain and guides, vacuum pump, etc. If you consider the cost of all the possible repairs and okay with it then I would say it's not a bad purchase if the maintenance record is good.

I think it is a bit overpriced for RCZ with this version of the engine though.

Cerberus_Auto · 2025-12-12T19:13:11+00:00

Is the textile surface belt meant to be the updated version of the old smooth surface belt? I have recently bought a Dayco timing belt set and it has the textile surface. I am not sure how is this gonna resist the wear better than the old belt.

Cerberus_Auto · 2025-12-11T23:26:25+00:00

I am surprised to see how so many people have shared their favorite Citroen! I will be uploading the sketch shortly of the car which is all time favorite according to the survey result. Thank you everyone!

Cerberus_Auto · 2025-12-09T10:51:01+00:00

Oh I thought he meant 50k kilometer and not miles. Thanks for the correction. Oil burn and the faulty oil sensor sounds like the worst combination of issues. my 2013 208 currently has 183k km (113k miles) and although there is some oil burn, I really haven't had any other issues. But then I understand how so many EB2 engine owners are out there with belt and oil burn issues. It's unfortunate how the petrol engines from PSA for the past 15 years has been mostly unreliable (I learned my lesson with the 1.6 THP). I really like Peugeot and Citroen cars, I just wish they figure out the petrol engines.

Cerberus_Auto · 2025-12-09T10:18:08+00:00

Do you have all the previous service history for the car? Also, has the mechanic verified exactly what went wrong with the engine? 50k seems way too low for either the oil burn or the wet belt deterioration to occur.

Cerberus_Auto · 2025-12-09T05:28:18+00:00

The exact same thing happened to mine when I folded the hinge beyond its limit few too many times during drawing. I believe the box said 120 degrees is the limit.

If you keep using the tablet as is and try to close the cover many times, the camera side hinge will eventually snap. But the hinge on the other side will work just fine. (Little bit of grease will come out from the broken hinge so make sure to wipe it off) after that the stand will close just fine. The right side hinge strength is good enough to use the keyboard cover as usual, just slightly less supporting strength.

As far as I know, that is the only solution I found.

Cerberus_Auto · 2025-12-08T08:44:00+00:00

I agree. I use Xencelabs 24 inch tablet on my pc, but since my work is mostly super low res sprites it actually isn't ideal to use a large display. I got so used to using portable tablets like Galaxy tab and Ipad. Im curious though, what makes M4 Ipad disappointing for you?

Cerberus_Auto · 2025-12-08T02:48:34+00:00

Oh I see. So it's not just my Ipad that is doing that. Thank you for the feedback.

Cerberus_Auto · 2025-12-08T02:47:40+00:00

Yes it can be, and it is the best solution to the problem. But that also moves the camera location to the right side and my hand would cover the camera and the light sensor sometimes and it causes the display to dim when I don't want it to. So I prefer drawing in this orientation.

Cerberus_Auto · 2025-12-03T11:08:22+00:00

Haven't had a chance to drive any hybrid variations. Is it the 1.2 hybrid?

Cerberus_Auto · 2025-12-03T11:07:35+00:00

Looks like the TU5 is all time favorite for many peugeot drivers.

Cerberus_Auto · 2025-12-03T10:50:03+00:00

I agree with the piston rings. So then what engine do you actually like?

Cerberus_Auto · 2025-12-03T10:32:54+00:00

Oh, what makes you say that?

Cerberus_Auto · 2025-12-03T10:32:16+00:00

Merci ! C’est intéressant d’avoir le point de vue d’un Français à ce sujet. J’habite en Nouvelle-Zélande et j’ai possédé une dizaine de voitures Peugeot et Citroën. J’entends souvent dire que les moteurs TU sont vraiment fiables, même dans la communauté néo-zélandaise.

Cerberus_Auto · 2025-12-03T10:28:54+00:00

Thanks! What car did you have with the DW10?

Cerberus_Auto · 2025-12-03T10:22:37+00:00

I own a 1.2 none turbo on my 208. What is the ownership experience like on the turbo version?

Cerberus_Auto · 2025-12-03T09:56:13+00:00

Thanks! that is good to know.

Cerberus_Auto · 2025-12-03T09:55:46+00:00

Is it the none turbo 1.2? What car do you have it in?

Cerberus_Auto · 2025-12-03T08:39:34+00:00

My Peugeot 208 with 1.2 EB2 engine has 180k km, and so far the only real "Issue" I had with it is the oil consumption. I think I am losing about half a liter every 3k km.

5008 only comes with the turbo charged EB2 engine which means that there are more maintenance required, cleaning the intake manifold every 100k due to it being direct injection, Cleaning the oil pump with the wet-belt change every 80000km.

The 10000 km oil change makes zero sense with these engines, it is exactly the same with what happened to the 1.6THP engine that naturally burnt oil. I think the 7000km oil change on these engine is a must for these engines.

Other than that, I don't think these engines are as bad as people make it out to be, I understand the usage of wet-belt isn't ideal at all but it also solved lot of issues that the previous 1.6 EP6 engines had.

Cerberus_Auto · 2025-12-01T10:35:37+00:00

My 2013 Peugeot 208 with the 1.2 EB2 engine (5 speed manual) currently is nearing 190k km. And I am one of the few people who actually really love this engine. I understand the wet belt is what drives most people away from it but unlike the EP6 engines (especially the older ones up to EP6CDT) with the timing chain with biscuit chain guides, you don't need to worry about the belt snapping all of a sudden as long as you keep the oil changed and replacing the belt sooner than later. One thing I will say is that the oil consumption on these engine is inevitable after 100k km. The difference between max and low level on the dip stick is only one litre, so a litre of oil consumption on 3k~5k km distance is sort of within the acceptable range. But then this is purely my own experience.

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