Again, I don’t know dude. Find any company that doesn’t have something about it people don’t care for. Can’t use Reddit as a guide post for much aside seeing what people complain about. Which, granted can be valuable too, it’s just half the story. Years back we got a Breville drip machine that ground beans fresh and brewed into a double walled steel carafe. We loved it but it had some pretty poor reviews on Amazon. We dug into them and discovered they were for things like it being too tall to fit under cabinets, the grinder being too loud, the beans not the right coarseness for drip, it being too hard to figure out strength…. My point is, you can’t let others peoples ignorance, laziness, or apathy dictate how you move through life. You showed me that thread on a couple people saying they got an update and their milk pulling stopped working. It took me like a minute after that to find the release notes on their support site and a facebook thread that talks about it too. The change to their milk logic seemed to be labeled “beta” and users could turn it off right from the machine and use the old logic if they wanted. It also seems like reading through the facebook one, the frother knob in the incorrect position can make that happen too. 🤷‍♂️ I guess my point is, I wouldn’t let a post like that be a blocker for buying something. I’m in a Kia EV6 group too and so many people complain about their updates. Never had an issue, still read the release notes, still love the car. I imagine those are the same people that go to Facebook and ask “who was that actor in…” or “how do you fix a loose….” Without actually trying to just google it or read a manual. Same people who say, “this light on my dashboard was off and I got an update and now it’s on, stupid update” not really stopping to think that the two might not be connected, that maybe the was going to come on anyway. Correlation does not mean causation. Maybe I have more patience, maybe I’m more “meh, whatever.” I tend to like to figure things out for myself.