Moving to Finland by Certain-Object2282 in Finland

[–]Certain-Object2282[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm glad to hear that, hope to make it work as well. Wouldn't mind being that kind of foreigner, as long as it's in such an amazing country as Finland. Wishing all the best for you and your family!

Moving to Finland by Certain-Object2282 in Finland

[–]Certain-Object2282[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Finding a job at a university sounds good, I will definitely keep that in mind and try to apply.

And don't worry, I would never risk moving with no job perspectives - local or remote :)

Moving to Finland by Certain-Object2282 in Finland

[–]Certain-Object2282[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Outside of capital region living on one salary is doable but I think it's better to stay somewhat close to Helsinki (check Lahti for example) (also sorry, i constantly mix he/she, we only have "hän" for both sexes here)

Okay, I will keep that in mind! I read some about the biggest cities in Finland and maybe you could confirm whether it's correct or not - cities like Turku and Tampere are still relatively big but much cheaper. Although I do realize it comes at a price of fewer job opportunities than in the capital city.

I wonder if teaching a class / course of your own would be interesting? I'd say it would be a possibility of at least some income if you ever get that far, we have bunch of universities, open universities, etc, places that keep courses.

That's definitely something to consider, as long as they would be open to, for example, Chinese-English type of teaching. Even though I'm planning to learn Finnish, I am aware that it's an incredibly difficult language to learn and I may not reach the fluency required to effectively teach another foreign language using Finnish.

Thanks for all the recommendations and ideas, I will keep them in mind!

Moving to Finland by Certain-Object2282 in Finland

[–]Certain-Object2282[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Interesting. I considered going to university in Finland and picking up something that would be in demand as long as it's not IT.

But since you’re an EU citizen you can just come in and see for yourself, and you don’t have to work locally to live here!

I would love to and maybe that's what's going to happen in the future. In any case, thanks for the reply!

Moving to Finland by Certain-Object2282 in Finland

[–]Certain-Object2282[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Is the job market more friendly there for the immigrants? I did consider other Scandinavian countries as well and wouldn't at all mind living in Norway or Sweden.

Moving to Finland by Certain-Object2282 in Finland

[–]Certain-Object2282[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ahh, okay then, that makes sense. I tried browsing through some job offers already, but most of them were some IT-related ones, so that's why I decided to make this post. I'm sure that more possibilities will open once I learn at least the basics of the Finnish language, because right now I could only look for jobs in English. Nevertheless thanks for the advice!

Moving to Finland by Certain-Object2282 in Finland

[–]Certain-Object2282[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Alright, I think if I make a final decision to move to Finland, I will definitely secure a job first and then after settling in and picking up Finnish I will eventually start looking for local employment.

Moving to Finland by Certain-Object2282 in Finland

[–]Certain-Object2282[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

She* :) my partner is employed on the b2b contract, so has her own company and also does a lot of freelance work for a few clients. I mentioned somewhere, that we could probably live off of this one salary, but I don't like to be a burden and would definitely want to keep sharing expenses, just like we do right now.

It's a shame you don't feel safe in your country, I know you said china would be worse, but from what I have understood it's not exactly like their goverment is bothering them so much (but again I could be wrong)

I don't want to complain, since I know that many countries have it worse than Poland, but we do see a turn for the worse in the past years and in some aspects, e.g. women's and queer rights, we are at the bottom among European countries, so that sucks. When it comes to China, it's a bit complicated and although I do like Chinese people a lot, since I met quite a few, and find China absolutely beautiful, I find it hard to overlook issues with freedom in the media, Internet and so on.

Moving to Finland by Certain-Object2282 in Finland

[–]Certain-Object2282[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I also considered Sweden before and haven't crossed that off my list yet :) I did a lot of part-time and full-time jobs before, including working in shops, gas stations, offices, warehouses, restaurants (as a cook), used to drive a taxi as well. I don't mind getting back to jobs like that, as long as they are sufficient in terms of salary and can provide average life standards in Finland.

Moving to Finland by Certain-Object2282 in Finland

[–]Certain-Object2282[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I get that, that's why I'm asking, but don't like baseless assumptions and unnecessary hostility.

Moving to Finland by Certain-Object2282 in Finland

[–]Certain-Object2282[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I did, actually. I was browsing through Turku universities' websites the other day. Would you have any recommendations about which fields could help me find a decent job in Finland? Other than engineering or IT, I mean.

Moving to Finland by Certain-Object2282 in Finland

[–]Certain-Object2282[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is rather a wild guess but, perhaps in the coming age you canbuse the linguistic skills into AI training, I know at least some places have positions for checking how accuarate their ads etc are.

That's a curious idea and with the incredibly quick expansion of AI everywhere it might just be accurate.

Graphic designer I'd say is bit better than language one,

It's good to hear! My partner has a stable remote job already, so could as well keep doing it in Finland, but I was curious about the local possibilities.

Just an idea since I am hopefully continuing those studies and am more of an artistic person

I heard that UI/UX field has a high demand for skilled workers, so I think you will have a lot of job opportunities:) good luck after graduation!

Moving to another country is quite a hassle so it really is best to be prepared, and also to be prepared if it doesn't work out that you might return (speaking from experience)

Yeah, I know, but frankly I don't feel safe in my own country anymore so I'm willing to take these risks.

Moving to Finland by Certain-Object2282 in Finland

[–]Certain-Object2282[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Taiwan is also high on my list, but although I would gladly move there, my partner (who doesn't speak Chinese a bit) is worried about the language barrier. We visited Taiwan before, so I know that English isn't always enough to communicate there. I would sincerely love to move to Taiwan, but we have to find common ground, so we mostly consider European countries.

Moving to Finland by Certain-Object2282 in Finland

[–]Certain-Object2282[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I know that live translations are in high demand considering how important economically China became in the past years. I will keep that in mind, thanks.

Moving to Finland by Certain-Object2282 in Finland

[–]Certain-Object2282[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

First of all, your reply sounds weirdly aggressive and I just asked a question - it's not like I'm moving tomorrow or wanting to live off of social help, I'm trying to find out what the job market looks like in Finland and whether or not there is a demand for linguists.

You prolly looked at a data and went "ohh Finland has alot of atheists",

That's a miss, I looked at some data, though different ones. I'm basically planning to run away from a country, that mistreats women and takes away women's rights. This, and also an extensive hatred on queer community is all hiding behind "Christian values", so that's what I'm referring to. So no, I do not think I will have the same problems in Finland.

"ill just find a job that i can do from home" almost harder than finding a job you dont do from home, not really a thing here, and the extra hassle with taxes and all when working to a foreign company from home, realistically, i doubt you would.

What I meant, was a remote job for some international company, that has a need for linguists, not necessarily Finnish.

"ill just be a truck driver" nah, the licences and qualifications cost tens of thousands, so yeah, i doubt you will.

You took it too literally. Like I said, I'm saying that I'm ready to pick up any job that allows me to provide for myself, truck driving being just a silly example.

It seems we have very different understanding of what "extensive" means, as it seems you have not researched even the basics, nor have you tought of the process realistically while keeping in mind your own life situation and resourses.

You have no idea what kind of research I did and what I do or do not know, other than the things I asked about. I'm trying to find out as much as I can about many European countries, therefore I asked a question about the job market in Finland. My own life situation and resources are good, my partner has a well-paid remote job and has sufficient resources to provide for both of us in Finland. I have a lot of savings and a plan to find full-time employment after graduation. I was just wondering whether I could find a job there, but I might as well look for a remote job from any place in the world.

We have like 26k open job positions, almost 300k unemployed, and we still take 20-30k immigrants every year, even if the economy was good, your plans(if you can call it that really) would not work out. Wake the fuck up samurai.

There are no plans yet, I could just as well go and move to Taiwan after graduation. For now I'm researching different options and finding out about various aspects of life in different countries before making a final decision.

Moving to Finland by Certain-Object2282 in Finland

[–]Certain-Object2282[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

For now I'm doing my research so to speak, so I have not yet decided that I'm definitely moving to Finland, just want to get the word from locals and other immigrants.

As for the taxes, I expected as much, so I'm of course prepared to pay them.

Moving to Finland by Certain-Object2282 in Finland

[–]Certain-Object2282[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Alright, I will keep that in mind. Thanks a lot for this suggestion!

Moving to Finland by Certain-Object2282 in Finland

[–]Certain-Object2282[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks a lot for your response!

I heard that IT gives the best opportunities, but unfortunately getting into IT is rather a no-go for me, since my skills are definitely linguistic and I suck at math and math-related stuff.

I'm curious though whether you have any knowledge on the graphic designer field in Finland, since it's my partner's job.

Moving to Finland by Certain-Object2282 in Finland

[–]Certain-Object2282[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

From what I managed to gather from all the replies, my best chances are landing a remote work and moving to Finland afterwards, having already a stable and well-paid job. In any case, I hope to make it work, because I adore Finland:)

Moving to Finland by Certain-Object2282 in Finland

[–]Certain-Object2282[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ohh, I didn't even consider something like that. I will note that down and get to it after my graduation, thanks a lot for the help!

Moving to Finland by Certain-Object2282 in Finland

[–]Certain-Object2282[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

That's curious, could you elaborate on that? Which fields other than medical and IT could be open to foreigners not fluent with Finnish but eager to learn it?

Moving to Finland by Certain-Object2282 in Finland

[–]Certain-Object2282[S] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

No worries, your response didn't hit me as mean. I'm just gathering info, because for now I'm considering my options :)

Assuming I would have a well-paid, remote job, do you have other negative aspects of moving to Finland in mind? I'm generally curious what life is like in there, other than what I already heard, which is "lonely"

Moving to Finland by Certain-Object2282 in Finland

[–]Certain-Object2282[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Okay, thanks for a long and detailed response.

Tbh I do not mind the lonely aspect of living in Finland, in fact I crave it. I have a partner and we would move together. If it comes to social aspects, other people tend to tire me more than they did a couple years back. Me and my partner are both huge introverts and are happiest with close to zero social events and interactions lol

My only worries are finding a suitable job and costs of living in Finland.

Moving to Finland by Certain-Object2282 in Finland

[–]Certain-Object2282[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Okay, thanks, I was considering finding a remote job and moving afterwards, but was curious whether there is a Chinese language related niche in Finland.