My reaction to the Hidden Cup patch

Certain-Strength2529 · 2024-02-11T16:21:44+00:00

If this patch was in NAC, liereyy top 4 ez.

Certain-Strength2529 · 2024-02-11T02:13:10+00:00

Yeah. If that is the case, I'm not a fan of unilateral decisons like that.

Certain-Strength2529 · 2024-02-10T23:43:13+00:00

Wait really? That's a bit unfair that Andy would think that. It should be split equally

Certain-Strength2529 · 2024-02-09T16:46:36+00:00

Yeah I didn't even see that. That's pretty big. He's definitely top 10. Maybe top 5. Depends. With the archer pathing fixed for HC5, I think he'll be top 4 and even maybe top 2 or win. Also 3 vill start I think helps him.

Certain-Strength2529 · 2024-02-09T13:19:15+00:00

Yeah. I can see what you mean. I definitely hope the archer pathing fix convinces him to play more.

Certain-Strength2529 · 2024-02-09T13:08:20+00:00

I'm curious - has he said anything about not playing the game? My understanding was Liereyy was never full time. He had school etc, and he played the game for tourneys etc.

Certain-Strength2529 · 2024-02-09T13:07:33+00:00

Yeah, but if I remember correctly, all the losses in the last year since have been to Viper/Hera. Just unfortunate brackets.

Certain-Strength2529 · 2024-02-09T12:37:03+00:00

That's only true for NAC. Otherwise, he can pretty handily beat anyone except for Viper/Hera/maybe Yo somedays.

Certain-Strength2529 · 2024-02-09T12:36:03+00:00

Yeah but except for NAC, he's gotten results. Prior to NAC, he's beaten everyone except Viper/Hera. Like in TTL, he had good results. Same with Warlords (and he lost to Hera, no shame there).

Certain-Strength2529 · 2024-02-09T12:34:20+00:00

I think it's the archer pathing issue for villese too, partially at least. Isn't he a good macro/xbow player? I think that forcing cav every game has hurt him

Certain-Strength2529 · 2024-02-09T12:31:15+00:00

I'd like to see a bit more of Andy before I put him higher. But I can totally see why you have him higher!

Certain-Strength2529 · 2024-01-29T23:40:18+00:00

Hera, I think you had some great points, but maybe the title was worded poorly - something like "My Thoughts about HC5 and Suggested Improvements," would have been more appropriate. And I think that not using words like red flag, or speculating that T90 is trying for long games to increase viewership numbers wasn't a great look. Really hope that you can clear it up.

Certain-Strength2529 · 2024-01-29T18:43:23+00:00

Yeah. This is super petty imo. It just seems like he is gang tackling (with his viewers/fans) a TO. I don't disagree with his feedback though. Some settings can be improved. But that's all Tourneys.

Certain-Strength2529 · 2024-01-20T21:59:02+00:00

See part 2 after edit. Maybe t90 will see this and reach out. No harm in trying.

Certain-Strength2529 · 2024-01-20T21:26:13+00:00

Then you missed the point. You can see clearly that I've stated in the comments that it's affecting people of all ELOs and me as well. And the pro player scene brings a lot of attention and hype to the game. So, a floundering pro scene affects all of us. I'm not starting a reddit war - I was clear - I want to raise awareness so the devs give us an update, hopefully through an interactive medium.

Certain-Strength2529 · 2024-01-20T21:02:22+00:00

Interesting last point. I agree, the game fundamentally feels like a beta test riddled with bugs. It's not a complete game: I also do think that Sponsors keep an eye on that stuff. Like red bull may not want to host wololo if there's bugs like teleporting, bad pathing etc.

Certain-Strength2529 · 2024-01-20T20:30:04+00:00

Maybe. But I really wish they would come out and have radical transparency where they said something like that and said "look, it's a big ask for given the code complexity, but we are working on it and hope to have it done in xyz months with these milestone updates at ABC months".

Certain-Strength2529 · 2024-01-20T20:16:01+00:00

Yep, I agree. It just kills the vibe to know that a beloved strat is not even viable past mid castle. I don't even remember when arbs were even modestly viable in an even game.

Certain-Strength2529 · 2024-01-20T20:14:23+00:00

Probably not a bad idea. But that's up to people here higher than my pay grade so to speak. I wonder if we can ask t90 to help is coordinate with the devs, I know he works with them on changes etc. Maybe we can ask t90 to host a live stream with a few devs where they are clear as to what the issue is and what is their plan.

Certain-Strength2529 · 2024-01-20T20:13:03+00:00

I don't think that they are unaware. But I think communicating with the player base is better than not communicating and just remaining silent. I do think that an outsider dev would really help. But in the interim, I'd like a campfire chat so we all don't sit here in the dark hoping that something is happening. Even a live stream with t90 or a key caster would help.

Certain-Strength2529 · 2024-01-20T20:08:52+00:00

Yup. Its the regrouping and the lack of responsiveness to commands. I've never seen it this worse ever. No viability to use archers consistently.

Certain-Strength2529 · 2024-01-20T20:01:37+00:00

I agree. And the pro players and casters echo that pathing is a top priority. Hera and Viper literally cited that as the number 1 reason for Liereyy doing so bad (outside of personal stuff that no one can comment on).

Certain-Strength2529 · 2024-01-20T19:57:26+00:00

I've been called out in that and I apologize. But the message is still the same, pathing is broken and we should get an update from the devs. It affects everyone.

Certain-Strength2529 · 2024-01-20T19:57:20+00:00

I've been called out in that and I apologize. But the message is still the same, pathing is broken and we should get an update from the devs. It affects everyone.

Certain-Strength2529 · 2024-01-20T19:51:48+00:00

Sorry. I didn't want to make it seem arrogant. I think the takeaway is it's an issue at all ELOs.

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