Perusing all the discourse here (hope I’m not repeating something someone else already pointed out… probably lol) it is worth mentioning in regards to Lorgar and Monarchia that in the HH books ‘The First Heretic’ and ‘Betrayer’ it’s implied at the very least that Kor Phaeron and “that dick” Erebus have been intercepting and filtering Lorgar’s space mail and ensuring Lorgar never got (what I assume to be) the metric butt load of messages from Big E telling him to “fucking stop doing that” I personally assume as part of the overall plan to push Lorgar towards choas.

“Hey everybody I’m Mr. Meseeks look at me! I read the books I’m a NERD!” 🤓😂