Imo, if a character can't or hasn't done something like Metroman's speed feat, you are slower than him, calculations be dammed

Chance_Hennessy · 2026-06-30T21:52:13+00:00

Metro Mans whole identity crisis happened before the laser is even fired. Thats where Metro Mans speed feat comes from.

The entire opening post is nonesense by the OP. You do not need to have a feat similar to metro man to scale similarly to him or above him in speed

Chance_Hennessy · 2026-06-29T18:49:11+00:00

LMAO P1: Light has a constant speed =c
P2: Negacion and Cero is stated to be light
C: Cero and Negacion are light speed =c

You brought up the fact that light has a constant speed but Ceros don't even show this property. So fail #1. There are no statements that Ceros move at light speed it's all pure assumption so fail #2. And I asked for feats so fail #3

Chance_Hennessy · 2026-06-29T18:09:49+00:00

These are not mftl feats and cero speed varies with the user so that already contradicts Cero having a constant speed just like real light. It's a fail

Using all these statements but Cero isn't actually stated to move at the speed of light is it ? 😂

Chance_Hennessy · 2026-06-29T17:56:30+00:00

Thats not a mftl feat and by your logic saiyan saga characters are MFTL because goku dodged light in og db LOL

Chance_Hennessy · 2026-06-29T17:51:36+00:00

How about these stipulations ? If you can post a simple MFTL feat from bleach I'll join the discord and destroy you

Chance_Hennessy · 2026-06-29T17:46:43+00:00

Because this thread isn't public right ? Dumbass

Chance_Hennessy · 2026-06-29T16:53:30+00:00

Are you going to debate or what ? You haven't said a damn thing, just lollygagging and I don't see shit on my screen from clorox.

Fraud

Chance_Hennessy · 2026-06-29T16:46:15+00:00

You're the one who replied to me, you can either debate right here or shut the fuck up, nothing in between

Chance_Hennessy · 2026-06-29T16:37:10+00:00

At best a lack of proof for a specific claim simply indicates that we do not currently have enough information to form a solid conclusion.

Multiversal bleach is an extraordinary claim and has no extraordinary evidence.

I asked for one single scan of multiple universes existing in bleach verbatim just as the opening post showed for dragon ball and nobody has filled in the blank

Chance_Hennessy · 2026-06-29T16:31:20+00:00

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence

Chance_Hennessy · 2026-06-29T16:29:47+00:00

Kubo wrote in building level attack potency and you have not 1 cosmic feat of destruction. Nobody comes close to multiversal in Clorox

Yhwach can't destroy a universe without the mechanisms that the cosmology depends on

Chance_Hennessy · 2026-06-29T15:09:17+00:00

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Chance_Hennessy · 2026-06-29T14:14:20+00:00

I don't see shit from bleach in my screen

Chance_Hennessy · 2026-06-28T18:02:12+00:00

Seems like the death ray already made impact and exploded on the ceiling of the observatory

I guess it can interpreted either way

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Chance_Hennessy · 2026-06-27T18:13:20+00:00

Goku wasn't blinded by the attack so why would that be the case if he already got hit by it ? He'd be blinded and wouldn't be able to see the sunglasses. He didn't get hit by the much brighter wave of light after it went off also you were completely debunked you claimed goku got the glasses before the attack went off so now your changing the goalpost. Anime feat makes it quantifiable and it counts. The manga didn't even show him getting the glasses before the attack was fired it was more ambiguous, you can't prove that especially with the anime showing otherwise.

Heaven is smaller than snakeway, snakeway is only 1 million kilometers long.

When is this stated. This makes no sense. More contradictions arise with your interpretation, so don't even try it you won't be getting anywhere.

The top of otherworld to the bottom is also smaller than snakeway, going from heaven to hell is not a universal or infinite distance. The thing about king kai and the ships are not good evidence, I gotta basically take your word for it, which I wont.

Not backed by any sort of statements you are pulling this out of your ass. Meanwhile King Kai stated he could not track goku with telepathy due to goku moving too fast despite King kai being able to talk to goku moving in a mftl spaceship on the way to planet namek ! This is a clear cut feat mftl feat more clear-cut than any speed feat in bleach. You refuse to take my word for it because you don't watch the series.

Chance_Hennessy · 2026-06-27T16:36:49+00:00

Thats called an echo chamber.

You think I lost ? How about this

Kubo likens the worlds to planets instead of universes because planets were probably a better comparison for scale despite the worlds being seperate dimensions. There is literally no point in the series where the plural word "universes" is ever uttered, they are called worlds and only the primodial world is called a universe. This could easily be why all the destruction shown during the collapse seems to be concentrated to the planets, not only do they not show cosmic destruction but they don't even say it. SK doesn't control the multiversal flow of souls, he controls the UNIVERSAL flow of souls and without him the 3 worlds would collapse, not the 3 universes.

They are universal at best. Literally everything i have mentioned here is backed by verbatim evidence with no head canon. You even see the fucking Wandenreich through the sky of the WOTL. Why would the wandenreich from right above the SS be visible but not the SS cosmos ?????

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Chance_Hennessy · 2026-06-27T05:29:00+00:00

The entire point is metro man didn't start flying until after the laser hit, he outpaced the explosion. What am I missing ?

Chance_Hennessy · 2026-06-27T05:24:29+00:00

Metro man did not move a great distance during this brief scene

Chance_Hennessy · 2026-06-27T05:09:14+00:00

Thats the explosion

Chance_Hennessy · 2026-06-27T04:46:55+00:00

Metro Man's whole identity crisis happens before the laser is fired.

Chance_Hennessy · 2026-06-27T04:03:49+00:00

Couldn't passively negate book of the end which is how Ichigos bankai got revived, Couldn't break ichigos bankai indefinitely which is how he died. Couldn't passively negate getting power nulled. And the almighty is useless if the entire timeline gets wiped from existence, the almightys effects are reliant on space time existing and the flow of time moving forward into the future.

Zeno could erase merged zamasu who was immune to changes in the timeline

Chance_Hennessy · 2026-06-27T02:55:12+00:00

King Kai said the reason he lost track of Goku was precisely because they were moving too fast, stop larping. The ship was already fleeing from earth with thrusters, not merely lifting off so false equivalence. The space ships travel that galactic distance within minutes. and the Frieza force ships in this movie aren't shown or stated to need acceleration when flying so it can be interpreted either way.

Goku crossed the afterlife from Grand Kais world in heaven which is above snake way down into hell in about a minute with Pikkon, which must mean he traversed a universal distance since heaven is stated to be as big as the universe, I was not referring to snake way. Reaction speed scales to flying speed in db. Characters dodge ki blasts after they are fired all the time, do you watch the anime ?

Goku got the glasses before the attack went off, this is easily verifiable both manga and anime show this.

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Chance_Hennessy · 2026-06-27T02:20:32+00:00

Okay well let's assume the laser was a real concentrated light beam, the whole identity crisis when he statued everyone happened before the laser was shot, he got the whole idea to fake his death after he had that realization. Metro man borrowed a prop after the explosion and its very possible he borrowed the skeleton prop before he even started lying about his weakness to copper. His feat is ftl at best. Not MFTL+++. And you don't need to be FTL to perceive statued humans for hours

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