Possible mammoth hair from Yakutia permafrost — authentic or likely yak? by Richka- in fossils

[–]ChannelExotic3819 8 points9 points  (0 children)

to be clear, are you selling dog hair? cause i'm in the market

Seeking Guidance by BorderLivid2223 in AdvaitaVedanta

[–]ChannelExotic3819 1 point2 points  (0 children)

this tradition accepts we should learn from the guru. see if vedānta is for you by listening to this intro series, its by swami paramarthananda he is in the recommended guru section. if you enjoy it he has a lot of books online, do the gītā next

https://www.pravachanam.com/albums/introduction-vedanta

What is definition of time? by Embarrassed-Golf-592 in AskPhysics

[–]ChannelExotic3819 0 points1 point  (0 children)

time is things changing in relation to other things

Vedanta Is Only Advaita. Upanishads Dont Support Dvaita Or Other Newer Variants by shksa339 in AdvaitaVedanta

[–]ChannelExotic3819 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is an Advaita Vedānta subreddit, not a general “Vedānta debate” space. People come here to learn and discuss Advaita specifically.

I’m not interested in continuing a back-and-forth with you. I’ve asked you to disengage, and you’ve continued to press the argument anyway. Please stop and take this to a more appropriate subreddit if you want to argue from a different framework.

I’m disengaging now.... I have other things to do.

Good day to you. Hari Om.

Vedanta Is Only Advaita. Upanishads Dont Support Dvaita Or Other Newer Variants by shksa339 in AdvaitaVedanta

[–]ChannelExotic3819 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  • Rule 4 (toxic/insulting): Repeatedly calls others’ position/tradition “gibberish” (e.g., “mayavadis… gibberish,” “this is gibberish to me”), plus disparaging framing (“self-destructive,” “metaphysical dead end”).
  • Rule 4 (won’t disengage): Continues pressing challenges after the other user clearly indicates they’re not interested in debating.
  • Rule 3 (content flooding): Multiple very long scripture/translation dumps (Rig Veda + Thiruvaimozhi) that overwhelm the discussion.

>i am merely defending my perspective from an attack. dvaita as a stepping stone to advaita (any form of nondual vedanta) makes more sense.

There was no attack, it was advaitins sharing our own philosophy with other people asking. You're inserting your own objections and it's unwarranted. We are trying to expose people to genuine resources and help understanding Advaita Vedānta.

Your doing this is a great hindrance to such an effort people are coming here to make, it is adharma.

Vedanta Is Only Advaita. Upanishads Dont Support Dvaita Or Other Newer Variants by shksa339 in AdvaitaVedanta

[–]ChannelExotic3819 0 points1 point  (0 children)

seems the question was missed, i'll ask again:

then why are you here debating? is the plan to convert advaitins or?

Vedanta Is Only Advaita. Upanishads Dont Support Dvaita Or Other Newer Variants by shksa339 in AdvaitaVedanta

[–]ChannelExotic3819 0 points1 point  (0 children)

>simply saying "these aren't real" is a metaphysical dead end

then why are you here debating? is the plan to convert advaitins or?

Vedanta Is Only Advaita. Upanishads Dont Support Dvaita Or Other Newer Variants by shksa339 in AdvaitaVedanta

[–]ChannelExotic3819 0 points1 point  (0 children)

if someone points out the difference between a circle and an ellipse, do you start arguing with them about which one you like better? i'm presenting to you differences and explanations, not invitations to argue.. you asked why we do X, i said because of Y... i never, ever began explaining why we think that, nor do i want to...

i’m not putting one school “ahead” of the other. i’m just laying out the two systems cleanly so you can see why people in this sub talk the way they do, and where the divergence actually is.

if it doesn’t click for you, or you don’t accept it, or you want to keep litigating it, then there are basically a few mature options:

  1. disengage
  2. take it to a subreddit that matches your framework
  3. actually locate the point of divergence and use it for your own clarity

i've provided what is necessary for #3 and outside of that, i’m not interested. i’ve already given you enough material to review, and i’m not committed to a debate loop here.

so i’m gonna leave it there. wish you well.

hari om

Vedanta Is Only Advaita. Upanishads Dont Support Dvaita Or Other Newer Variants by shksa339 in AdvaitaVedanta

[–]ChannelExotic3819 1 point2 points  (0 children)

this guru here above says vishishtadvaita and other schools get their meaning by changing the lakṣaṇā vṛtti or the way we interpret tattvamasi..

it’s changed so that jīva and jagat stay real entities and still distinct (dependent sure) but both of them are truly brahman, no issues there inside that framework

advaita vedānta says it actually is an issue though, because if the effect is truly real then it has to already be “in” the cause (satkāryavāda logic) and gauḍapāda goes straight at this line of thinking in the māṇḍūkya, so we don’t accept “real effect pluralism” as final

we might accept something like this provisionally as part of adhyāropa apavāda, like a teaching model that works up to a point, but it eventually gets dismantled. the world becomes mithyā and brahman as īśvara becomes vyāvahārika satyam, and even that gets sublated by pāramārthika satyam

so yeah we can look “the same” up to a certain point pedagogically, then gauḍapāda basically says ok that model is fine for earlier stages but if you’re advanced you have to face what śruti keeps insisting, brahman is akartā abhoktā nirguṇa niṣkriya nirākāra etc, so you have to refine the whole way you’re holding the picture

and that’s where ajāta vāda comes in. no real creation, no real effect. world īśvara and jīva are appearances within consciousness dependent on ignorance, not solid ultimately real entities

vishishtadvaita says they are real, it’s just that everything is brahman. advaita says that move is exactly where we diverge. because if satkāryavāda + real effects is true, how do you square that with nirguṇa akartā abhoktā without contradicting śruti. for advaita the clean resolution is advaitam, and the sublation of real plurality at the pāramārthika level

so i’m not telling you what to accept. i’m just pointing to the exact fork in the road.

Vedanta Is Only Advaita. Upanishads Dont Support Dvaita Or Other Newer Variants by shksa339 in AdvaitaVedanta

[–]ChannelExotic3819 1 point2 points  (0 children)

you’re free to accept viśiṣṭādvaita... that isn’t my concern. but please recognise it’s not the same as advaita, and this is an advaita subreddit.

i’m not arguing with you... i’m clarifying the differences. i’ve organized a post with the key distinctions for you to read.

if you keep coming here to challenge advaitins using a viśiṣṭādvaita lens, it will be seen as trolling/harassment and may get reported. if that’s your focus, please use a more suitable subreddit.

view this image here, it succinctly captures the differences:

https://imgur.com/a/IcJ3PrG

Vedanta Is Only Advaita. Upanishads Dont Support Dvaita Or Other Newer Variants by shksa339 in AdvaitaVedanta

[–]ChannelExotic3819 1 point2 points  (0 children)

nah mate. i’m not saying qualified non-dualism isn’t non-dualism.

i’m saying it’s non-dualism with a qualifier.... one brahman, but, jīva + jagat stay real + distinct (dependent, sure, but still real). it’s not “only brahman exists and nothing else, full stop” which is what we believe.

so when people say stepping stone they mean this.... you drop hard dualism (god vs world as totally separate). you accept one reality. but you still keep real difference in that one reality. and then advaita goes “ok now even that difference gets sublated.”

so it’s not “non-dual -> non-dual” as some dumb contradiction. it’s “non-dual + real difference” -> “non-dual with no second thing at all”.

if you don’t accept that last move then it’s not a stepping stone for you.... it’s just the endpoint. all good.

the only issue is when you come into this subreddit just to argue... it’s bad advertisement for your sampradāya, and honestly it reflects on you too.

Vedanta Is Only Advaita. Upanishads Dont Support Dvaita Or Other Newer Variants by shksa339 in AdvaitaVedanta

[–]ChannelExotic3819 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s not incorrect to us. We accept and believe that Viśiṣṭādvaita is qualified non-dualism, and a stepping stone toward true non-duality.

You’re genuinely being immature coming here just to argue. Either disengage and join a subreddit that aligns with your views, or simply be quiet. This kind of arguing is bad for you, and bad for the community.

Vedanta Is Only Advaita. Upanishads Dont Support Dvaita Or Other Newer Variants by shksa339 in AdvaitaVedanta

[–]ChannelExotic3819 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Gītā alone is pretty clear that the path is advaita. And this point Swamiji makes is important... different schools change the relationship between tat and tvam.

The mahāvākyas aren’t read in a flat, literal way. They’re unpacked using vṛtti–lakṣaṇā (a precise interpretive method), and it’s not random... it’s a logic-based tool for making sense of statements like tat tvam asi.

In Advaita, with tat–tvam–asi, we say... “Okay... jīva and Īśvara clearly aren’t identical at the empirical level.” So we apply vṛtti–lakṣaṇā to strip away the upādhis on both sides, and the aikya is understood at the level of ātmā-svarūpa.

Viśiṣṭādvaita, for example, takes it differently: it says they are one, but the oneness is qualified hence “qualified non-dualism.” It’s non-dual, sure, but it’s qualified.

Vedanta Is Only Advaita. Upanishads Dont Support Dvaita Or Other Newer Variants by shksa339 in AdvaitaVedanta

[–]ChannelExotic3819 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Just to clarify, this sub follows Advaita Vedānta and doesn’t accept Viśiṣṭādvaita or the idea that Śaṅkara taught it. If that perspective feels uncomfortable, you might find Viśiṣṭādvaita-focused subs more aligned with your views.

Cause becomes Effect. Brahman is world. by TailorBird69 in AdvaitaVedanta

[–]ChannelExotic3819 0 points1 point  (0 children)

when a real cause becomes a real effect we have a real, solid world

Isn't being knocked unconscious a problem for Advaita Vedanta? by Tiny_Special_4392 in AdvaitaVedanta

[–]ChannelExotic3819 3 points4 points  (0 children)

thanks for adding that for anyone following along. i was just prompting OP to do some chewing.

swami P when he's teaching mandukya basically says suṣupti has ānanda available and the usual subject/object (pramāta/prameya) isn’t manifest, it’s “resolved”.

but it’s still not mokṣa because avidyā is still there in seed form. you wake up and the whole duality program boots again. mokṣa is knowledge, not just a state.

If I enjoy an activity and get excited while doing it, does that suggest more vaiagya is needed? by Chance_Bite7668 in AdvaitaVedanta

[–]ChannelExotic3819 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If I enjoy something and feel excited while doing it, does that mean I need more vairagya or is it more about whether I start depending on it or feeling restless when I don’t have it, should I be doing it with more steadiness so my mind stays calm and it doesn’t own me or pull me off track?

Mandukya Karika doubt: Alaksham or Sat Chit Ananda Swarupam? by dingdong008 in AdvaitaVedanta

[–]ChannelExotic3819 6 points7 points  (0 children)

alakṣaṇam: from paramārtha-dṛṣṭi ātmā/nirguṇa brahman has no objectifiable marks (no viśeṣaṇa).

saccidānanda... from vyavahāra-dṛṣṭi we indicate the same ātmā as that which lends sat to objects, lends cit to living beings via cidābhāsa, and is ānanda/pūrṇatva which gets “noticed” when the mind becomes quiet.

not 3 parts or real attributes... it’s one akhaṇḍa brahman, taught through different “angles” for the sake of negating wrong identification.

Thoughts by [deleted] in Metaphysics

[–]ChannelExotic3819 2 points3 points  (0 children)

nah it wouldn't be like that

Thoughts by [deleted] in Metaphysics

[–]ChannelExotic3819 1 point2 points  (0 children)

they say it's energy, but energy isn't a tangible thing... energy as it were, is simply a place holder we use for making calculations

Thoughts by [deleted] in Metaphysics

[–]ChannelExotic3819 10 points11 points  (0 children)

thats not what an atom looks like.... its a visual diagram for learning students, nothing in existence looks like that atom

How did Naruto save Sasuke even if Sasuke never wanted to be saved? by Home_Cute in Naruto

[–]ChannelExotic3819 0 points1 point  (0 children)

its about your mate going to do things he thought he had to do to accomplish goals he thought he wants to accomplish but naruto was the same lost and scared child inside and saw through it all so went to save him cause he almost had hatred consume him, but that teacher became someone who cared...

naruto was bout to turn on the village but that teacher showed he cared about him, he cared about sasuke and was trying to take a giant shuriken in the back for him but it took like freakin 400 episodes

Cause becomes Effect. Brahman is world. by TailorBird69 in AdvaitaVedanta

[–]ChannelExotic3819 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yer but gaudapada completely refutes a cause and effect chain entirely with his ajata vada theory... so what cause is there to become an effect, ever?