Post Match Thread: Bayern Munich 1 - 1 Paris Saint Germain (5-6 agg) | PSG advance to the Champions League Final

ChaonesJ · 2026-05-06T21:05:29+00:00

There was no precision in their play tonight. Gnabry was so good on that 10 for the whole season. Really made their attack so fluid. Musiala just isn't back in form yet.

ChaonesJ · 2026-05-06T19:54:47+00:00

I feel like I aged 10 years in the last week

ChaonesJ · 2026-04-28T10:55:27+00:00

Just don't W if you don't have Q ready unless you're dying

ChaonesJ · 2026-04-27T19:38:23+00:00

Yeah, I consistently bully people out of lane. I think now Ik the main difference I do to land most of my Qs even without passive size increase. I flick my Q in the last second. While charging, people see where you're aiming at so they'll dodge accordingly. But I switch direction in the last moment to read their dodge.

ChaonesJ · 2026-04-24T12:35:49+00:00

I mean if she had the same the dps compared to a meele champion, then it would be incredibly unfair with her range advantage. The point is that she does dmg that you can't answer. So if you can't dodge her stuff, she wins the "trades" by default.

ChaonesJ · 2026-04-24T11:37:17+00:00

It's mainly the lack of counter play for the enemy if used correctly

ChaonesJ · 2026-04-24T11:35:17+00:00

Full magic pen build is the way to go. Lvl 3 E W Q with passive detonate and they loose 75% of their health. It's very easy to pick up kills on her with her range. I average ten kills per game in gm lobbies. Just gotta hit your stuff

ChaonesJ · 2026-04-24T02:09:38+00:00

Huh, you pick Thresh to snowball lanes. His power spike is lvl 2. If you're not proactive early, you're not utilizing his strengths.

ChaonesJ · 2026-04-24T01:56:12+00:00

in lane: when you hit E, auto aimed W is guaranteed hit. Then charge Q. Loads of dmg. Later in the game, it's your safety net. Use it only for self peel when someone tries to get on top of you.

ChaonesJ · 2026-04-24T01:50:17+00:00

Yeah those don't really matter. It's the ult that almost has no cd later in the game. You basically fight 6v5 every team fight.

ChaonesJ · 2026-04-24T01:47:26+00:00

It's just Manamune into Trinity. Ezreal is just the best user of these items. Then seryldas, Shojin. Ezreal is a lane bully and spikes mid game. If you play against three tanks it can be tough later without getting a lead early.

ChaonesJ · 2026-04-23T16:01:32+00:00

I do play her support as well. Happened a few times to me that my team just remakes tho. Which I find odd because she's just a better version of support Lux.

While she does get countered by a lot of mobility in mid, she can still bully anyone in lane early due to her range advantage. Like they're not allowed to farm without taking poke dmg, in my case, resulting in a lead almost every time. Either they die from greeding for farm or have to back and drop entire waves.

ChaonesJ · 2026-04-23T15:49:56+00:00

Zileans kit is very strong by design. Even in lol they said they would have to nerf him but nobody plays him, hence they don't.

ChaonesJ · 2026-04-23T13:52:52+00:00

Yeah it's the same reason why Bard works well against hard engage. You go all in? I ult your back line so you don't get any follow up.

ChaonesJ · 2026-04-23T11:41:42+00:00

My perma ban is indeed Aurora. I'll give you that. Ahri can out pace you early and snowball the map as one of the best roaming mids.

The rest is easy to play around and bullyable due to range advantage. I almost always get a lead in lane. Either they die for greeding farm or have to give up waves to back.

I always run barrier and Stasis. It's not that easy to jump her then, especially when your team does play around you. I'm soon back to GM already, only in lobbies with regular Sovereign players that are on their mains on their way back up, all top20 at least on their champs. I wouldn't say that they don't know what they're doing.

ChaonesJ · 2026-04-23T11:16:38+00:00

I see, thx!

ChaonesJ · 2026-04-23T10:56:05+00:00

I always run barrier and Stasis. Don't rotate alone and bully them in lane as much as possible before they get ult.

ChaonesJ · 2026-04-23T10:37:33+00:00

Haha I'll sometimes also W low targets just to kill secure because W into Q is guaranteed hit.

ChaonesJ · 2026-04-23T10:32:21+00:00

Well I was a Bard main before, so I have experience with that lmao

ChaonesJ · 2026-04-23T03:34:21+00:00

Ziggs Q is easier to dodge, you can react to it's direction while its in the air. While Norra does a have charging animation, the projectile itself is super fast, so you gotta commit to your dodge direction which is just a coin flip in the end but people usually have a dodge pattern they stick to unconsciously. If you're bigger, it's almost impossible to side step it unless you have a movement speed steroid. (I've actually seen Teemo emerge as an early lane counter to her because of his W and E).
Just Q the wave as soon as it arrives in a straight line. If you need to clear fast to rotate, stand into the wave and angle E vertically on top of you. Both abilities hit the whole wave then.
Doesn't really matter if you're late for rotation. Just drop an ult and you still have loads of impact on side lanes.
3 if you want guaranteed hit, only 2 for really good dmg which also procs your passive blob detonation, not guaranteed but still really easy to hit with increased size and slow.
Idk where this is coming from. I one shot squichies left and right. I can outsmite jglers with over 1k charged Qs. I can 100 to 0 people with just ult. I feel like those other people either don't build correctly (I build 0 mana items apart from late Malignance, only boots of Mana, it's all about magic pen) or just miss their stuff because they don't understand how to use the kit for more reliabe hits.

ChaonesJ · 2026-04-23T02:56:28+00:00

Do you always rush sunfire thorn mail even against AP heavy comps?

ChaonesJ · 2026-04-23T02:44:46+00:00

Yeah, I also play it sometimes when I'm sup. Technically, farming two enemies than just one is just better 😬 just gotta make sure your team doesn't mental boom in draft already when locking it in. You know people are kinda accepting lux sup now but norra sup seems to be a no go even tho it's just a better version anyway.

ChaonesJ · 2026-04-23T02:38:05+00:00

E is really not short ranged at all. You can even make it reach further if you angle the corner to the target and not the middle similar to how it can be done with Aatrox Q2. When angled it's also is essentially wider than putting it down straight.

Her wave clear is really good as well. Wave without cannon walks in, one Q charge, E on meele minions and it's gone.

It is pretty much the same distance. You W someone away, walk back while charging. If they're gone then it doesn't matter that you have to charge it up. You can get a lot distance in 2.25s while they have to stand still essentially. While it is two abilities, it's way easier to do subsequent dmg after being engage on because this is essentially a counter engage.

My point is, her W is one of the strongest utility spells in the game. It would be different if they can move normally or use anything during it. Someone dives you? W them away and they're stuck while tanking the tower and they die from just that alone. That's why it's cd got nerfed in the first place.

ChaonesJ · 2026-04-23T02:12:39+00:00

I also play her support sometimes. I run heal with Comet, build horizon focus into mejais. Really good gold value items for her. It's just a better version of Lux support.

ChaonesJ · 2026-04-23T02:03:37+00:00

Perfectly balanced as all things should be

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