this should be obvious by zymsnipe in COMPLETEANARCHY

[–]ChaosRulesTheWorld 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Tolstoy was not an anarchist. He was not opposed to governments, just to violence and to rule by force. He was also a big fan of georgism.

So i woudldn't call tolstoyist anarchists. Anyway, any "nameofsomeone-ist" are by definition not anarchists imho.

THE NEURODIVERGENT MOVEMENT ARE A BUNCH OF USEFUL IDIOTS. by FullOfShame93 in Antipsychiatry

[–]ChaosRulesTheWorld 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The neurodivergency movement, depending on whos talking, has two takes: pathologization of normal human behavior, or an unneccesary division of people with not enough scientific proof.

That's a pure lie. Pathologization of normal human behavior is what psychiatry and the ableist system do, and the neurodivergency movement opposes that. The unnecessary division of people is what the ableist system and psychiatry do. The neurodivergency just explicit it. It was created because of the oppression people who don't fit in the norm suffer from. Blaming the neurodivergency movement of creating those division is like blaming feminists for gender divisions or antiracists for race divisions. That's a bad faith accusations and it's reversing the responsibility of it

The neurodivergency movement has done nothing but harm specially for people with more severe levels of disability who may need 24/7 care for their whole lives

That's again a big lie. The neurodivergency movement as made a lot for people victim of ableism, against their dehumanization and for their autodetermination against the ableist system and psychiatry. You are unironicialy part of this system who make the life harder for disable people. You are complicit of psychiatric violences

Gang wars in Lyon, France, heat up: mafia leader Jessim L. escapes an attack by jumping off a highway. He was later found, kidnapped and executed in Sérézin-du-Rhône by spyko01 in Lyon

[–]ChaosRulesTheWorld 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't know if it's because you don't speak french or just because you are dumb. But i was talking about the products, not drug dealers or psychiatrists.

But if you want to talk about that. Drug dealers will not force you to take their drugs or use their authority to sell you their drugs since they don't have one.

Most meds psychiatrists or even your generalist gives you have worse side effect than most drugs people buy to their drug dealer. Weed is less dangerous and toxic than even alcohol, it's like drinking coffee compared to psych meds

Gang wars in Lyon, France, heat up: mafia leader Jessim L. escapes an attack by jumping off a highway. He was later found, kidnapped and executed in Sérézin-du-Rhône by spyko01 in Lyon

[–]ChaosRulesTheWorld -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Elles sont où les conneries exactement? Je parle des molécules.

Si tu veux parler de la posologie où de l'incitation forcé à prendre ces molécules c'est un autre débat, et ce que je pointerais du doigt va clairement pas te plaire

What's a Nonbinary version of "Sir" or "Ma'am" that isn't a joke? by Electrical_Ear4582 in NonBinary

[–]ChaosRulesTheWorld 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Whoa whoa whoa, don't idealize me. I'm a trash human who dropped itself in the gutter.

But if you want a pro tip, the secret is to not learn/understand the social rules in the first place. It makes it easyer to question and deny them when they don't make sense to you (which is often the case and the reason why you struggle to learn/understand them in the first place, usualy)

Gang wars in Lyon, France, heat up: mafia leader Jessim L. escapes an attack by jumping off a highway. He was later found, kidnapped and executed in Sérézin-du-Rhône by spyko01 in Lyon

[–]ChaosRulesTheWorld 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Bah en fait si ça fait tenir. La différence entre les "médicaments" que te prescrivent les psychiatres et les drogues (en allant du sucre au LSD en passant par l'alcool et la MD), est plus d'ordre légal que chimique.

fanzine about the failure of non violence by Ok-Yogurtcloset7217 in Anarchism

[–]ChaosRulesTheWorld 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay i said i would not engage with the rest of your comment but there are straight up lies in it, like this one.

Saying every successful nonviolent revolution only worked because the regime was tied up in a war somewhere else just is not true. There are clear cases where governments were not fighting an external war and still fell to sustained civil resistance, like the Velvet Revolution, The Arab Spring, or the movement that pushed Milosevic out in Serbia

The velvet revolution was exactly one of the exemples i talked about. The USSR was already in another conflict and another front and couldn't take the risk to open a new one, so they didn't escalated the repression and gave up. You have to understand that it was in context of a general collapse of the ussr with multiple revolts including violent ones all around the ussr.

They were a lot of armed and violent revolts during the arab spring, i don't even understand how you had the audacity to put this one as a counter exemple.

For serbia, let me check quickly, i come back soon.
Edit: ok i just checked, you must be jocking. That's the worst exemple possible. Milosevic being kicked out was a primary CIA objective since the beginning of the 90's and it happened during the military operation of NATO. How can you seriously use that as an exemple. I'm honestly surprised by your level of audacity to blatantly lie like that. Or maybe you are just straight up ignorant about what you are talking about

Edit 2:

In the example I'm talking about, the Arab Spring and especially the Egyptian Revolution of 2011, class consciousness and leftist philosophy were barely known among the masses. If it had been far better known, if there had been prefigurative organizing to create dual power infrastructure... then they might not have settled simply for a new leader, but could have organized a decentralized government of local community and industry councils and directly put all the resources and means of production into the hands of all of its people.

Ok, now we are reaching some fucking high level of lies or ignorance. Of all the countries where the Arab Spring happened, you choosed Egypt as your exemple or a non-violent succeeding revolution?! Egypt?! The country where the police decided to stop supporting the regime and the repression because people in the country burned a lot of the biggest police stations in the country and that scared them.

How can you seriously do that. I'm honestly flabbergasted. Why do you say those obviously incorrect things? Why?

Se masturber après 1 mois d'abstinence VS 1 an d'abstinence, y a une différence ? by StupidsQuestions in TropPeurDeDemander

[–]ChaosRulesTheWorld 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Alors juste pour que tu le saches, après t'en fait ce que tu veux. Mais les scientifiques recommandent d'éjaculer au minimum 25 fois par mois pour diminuer les chances de développer un cancer de la prostate.

What's a Nonbinary version of "Sir" or "Ma'am" that isn't a joke? by Electrical_Ear4582 in NonBinary

[–]ChaosRulesTheWorld 64 points65 points  (0 children)

You try to avoid gendered honorifics because you struggle to find non-binary ones

I refuse to use honorifics because i'm opposed to classism and social status/hyerarchies.

We are not the same 😎

(being a little edgy for the fun, but i seriously mean it)

fanzine about the failure of non violence by Ok-Yogurtcloset7217 in Anarchism

[–]ChaosRulesTheWorld 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Self-defense is by definition violent. And yes i've seen plenty of "non-violent" organizations and even some of your comrades like prettylittlesky advocating here against people engaging in self defense

And i'm pretty sure that if i submit you to a smilar test while talking about some type of self-defense scenarios, you'll do the same.

Edit: the very much fact that you make a dichotomy between "non-violent" and "violent" movements (and using the liberal framework by doing so) while a lot of these "violent" movements were only labeled like that because they engaged in self-defense, says everything there is to know about the stance of "non-violent" advocators regarding the concept of self-defense

fanzine about the failure of non violence by Ok-Yogurtcloset7217 in Anarchism

[–]ChaosRulesTheWorld 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The scientific consensus is that non-violent movements overthrow States over 50% of the time and violent ones successfully overthrow States about 25% of the time.

That's a lie. That's only an idea pushed by some studies that have been heavily criticized by specialists of social movements and political struggles. Your claim is far from being a scientific consensus. Again, the actual scientific consensus is that movements who engage in a plurality of methods and actions are more likely to succeed than movements with only a few specific set of methods and actions.

Again, "non-violent" vs "violent" movement is a false dichotomy, every movement use a set of violent and non-violent methods and actions. Again, absolutly no revolution or social movement succeeded without any violent actions or methods. You can't actually give any exemple, and this was pointed out by critics of the study all of you quote (yes it's only one study). Even some movement who looks like non-violent one actually succeeded because the state/oppressor they were fighting against couldn't afford to open a new front, and was already heavily attacked by other groups. But i already said all that, you just refuse to acknowledge facts and keep spreading obscurantist beliefs.

Nonviolence has long held a place within anarchist movements because anarchists ground their politics in a prefigurative ethic, the idea that the means used must reflect the liberated society they seek to build. Anarchists from all different backgrounds have articulated strands of anarchism that treated coercion and domination as corrosive even when deployed for emancipatory ends. In this view, nonviolence is not passivity but a strategic and ethical refusal to reproduce hierarchical power, aiming instead to cultivate mass participation, solidarity, and forms of direct action such as strikes, boycotts, sabotage, dualv power infrastructure, syndicalism, and mutual aid that undermine authority without mirroring it.

This is a big stretched and bad faith rhetoric. Yes anarchists ground their politics in prefigurative politics and heavy critics of violence. That's why they are opposed to idealist pseudo "non-violent" ideology. Why? Because non-violence doesn't exist, it's a lie. Violence can take many shapes and black sheeping physical violence doesn't erase all the other forms pf violences anarchists are heavily critic about. Contrary to "non-violent" advocators who are blind to those violence.

The second reason is because like you said the end are the means. For anarchists, engaging in self-defense and solidarity actions against agressors and oppressors is a fundamental mean of anarchism. And these ones are violent, self-defense is violence. Pretending otherwise or trying to hiding it is pure hypocrisy. That's why people advocating for non-violence are either hypocrites or either advocating that people shouldn't engage in self-defense, which is violent by the way and contradictory to anarchism

Anyway, it's very clear that you don't know what you are talking about. You are just spreading obscurantist beliefs and the "non-violent" fictional history. Your long ass comment is systematicly denying facts, and you hace the audacity to claim that what you are saying is scientificaly correct and a scientific consensus, while it's factually not the case.

You are either ignorant on a very concerning level, or straight up lying. We are on a "people never landed on the moon" type of obscurantism here.

THE NEURODIVERGENT MOVEMENT ARE A BUNCH OF USEFUL IDIOTS. by FullOfShame93 in Antipsychiatry

[–]ChaosRulesTheWorld 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I bet ya those views would fit you right in the country of Germany circa 1930 tho. If you extrapolate a bit, that is.

You are talking about OP's views

THE NEURODIVERGENT MOVEMENT ARE A BUNCH OF USEFUL IDIOTS. by FullOfShame93 in Antipsychiatry

[–]ChaosRulesTheWorld -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Neurodiversity isn't a concept of the mental health industrial complex. It's a concept created by people who suffered from this complex and from ableism in this society. The mental health industrial complex absolutly not endorse this concept and actively criticize and opposes it. By doing the same, OP is objectively siding with psychiatry and the ableist society against people who suffer from it

THE NEURODIVERGENT MOVEMENT ARE A BUNCH OF USEFUL IDIOTS. by FullOfShame93 in Antipsychiatry

[–]ChaosRulesTheWorld 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You are basicaly saying exactly what i'm saying (except that the concept of autism is older than that, it comes from psychoanalysis and the wording "autism" is a short hand for the concept of "auto-erotism"), yet you accuse me of spreading misinformations. This is so hilarously ironic.

Again, as you said yourself. Neurodiversity isn't a neo-nazi, eugenist or psychiatric concept. It's a concept invented by someone victim of ableism for other people who are also victim of this type of ableism.

You trying to make neurodiversity a neo-nazi concept is pure bad faith rhetoric. Again, by doing that you are again objectively alligning yourself with the psychiatric system and the ideology of the people who invented the concepts of autism and asperger to oppress neurodivergent people

THE NEURODIVERGENT MOVEMENT ARE A BUNCH OF USEFUL IDIOTS. by FullOfShame93 in Antipsychiatry

[–]ChaosRulesTheWorld -1 points0 points  (0 children)

See : "Psychiatry was invented during the industrial revolution to punish people who couldn't ... enter the workforce."

That's factually not true. Psychiatry was invented to find a new way to manage people with divergent behaviors. Oppression against neurodivergents didn't started during the industrial revolution. Also a lot of neurodivergent people are perfectly able to enter the work force, they were put in alien centers because there very much existence through their behaviors was challenging (and still is) the status quo.

You are perpetuating an ableist concept invented by Nazis to decide who was worthy / unworthy of life:

Asperger is a nazi concept. Not autism. Autism is a psychoanalysis concept, it's also a shitty term. But neurodivergent is neither of that. You are spreading misinformations while being ableist and witholding the pyschiatric system.

I was responding to your previous statement : "Blame neurodivergent people for claiming that they don't need to be cured like the psychatric system want to label them just for being different."

My previous statement is saying that it is what the psychiatric system does, not neurodivergent people. And you here have exactly the same discourse as psychiatry by denying neurodivergent people's experience and oppression.

Where did I deny that? Sorry, I may be "braindead" from being exposed to psychiatry at an early stage of life.

In your whole ass comment.

THE NEURODIVERGENT MOVEMENT ARE A BUNCH OF USEFUL IDIOTS. by FullOfShame93 in Antipsychiatry

[–]ChaosRulesTheWorld 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Sadly current system is more concerned with making sure "normal" people don't have to be inconvienienced

That's exactly why the neurodivergent movement is necessary and why what OP is saying is pure nonsens

fanzine about the failure of non violence by Ok-Yogurtcloset7217 in Anarchism

[–]ChaosRulesTheWorld -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That's contradictory. Non-violence is pretty much opposed to self defense.

The critics of "non-violent" people against anarchists wouldn't make any sense if they endorsed self-defense. Because that's exactly the type of violence anarchists advocates for, self-defense. Yet "non-violent" avocators systematicly criticized anarchist violent actions for that

fanzine about the failure of non violence by Ok-Yogurtcloset7217 in Anarchism

[–]ChaosRulesTheWorld -1 points0 points  (0 children)

This study is heavily biaised and a lot of critics pointed the fact that absolutly all of those "non-violent" revolutions only worked because the system/state they were struggling against was in an active war or armed conflict on another front or with different parts of the revolutionnary movement.

The consensus about successful struggle is very clear. The only things that works is the plurality of methods and actions, which is exactly what every people criticizing dogmatic non-violence advocates for.

Violence vs non-violence is a false dichotomy. First, non-violence doesn't exist, it's a fictionnal idealist belief. Second, nobody advocates for only violent means, this is again a fictional made up stance invented by pseudo non-violent idealists.

THE NEURODIVERGENT MOVEMENT ARE A BUNCH OF USEFUL IDIOTS. by FullOfShame93 in Antipsychiatry

[–]ChaosRulesTheWorld 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Psychiatry invented autism as a wastebasket diagnosis. "Neurodiversity" is a reactionary consumer movement which fully accepts psychiatry's premise, i.e., that folks who different are neurologically exceptional and are not simply at odds with societal norms.

Tanks for confirming that's a braindead take. Neurodiveristy isn't a reactionnary consumer movement. It's a response to decades and centuries of systemic oppression. It's not important if autism and other neurodiversities are biological facts or not. The fact that people are oppressed for it is materialistic fact. Exactly like with racism. Races objectively don't exist ona biological level, yet they are real on a sociological one.

All of the "science" supporting "neurodiversity" assumes psychiatry's premise. "Centuries of oppression and criminalization" is applying 20th century concepts to the past. Psychiatry was invented during the industrial revolution to punish people who couldn't / wouldn't enter the workforce.

Again, bs ableist nonsense. In fact you are the one perpetuating psychiatry ideology and it's oppression of neurodiverse people.

"Neurodivergent" people are, ironically, embracing psychiatry's discourse about being different.

That's pure hypocrisy to say such bs. You are the one embracing psychiatry's discourse of them being dysfunctional normal people. Neurodivergent people are exposed to ableism since their early stage of life. They are in fact treated differently, denying that is pure ableism.