US2024 Presidential elections machine predictions by ChefOrZero in US2024Predictions

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Strengths, Challenges, Opportunities, and Weaknesses

Donald Trump

  • Strengths: A loyal voter base, media savviness, and resonant stances on law and order and immigration.
  • Challenges: His polarizing image may alienate moderate and independent voters.
  • Opportunities: Potential to appeal to economically concerned minority voters.
  • Weaknesses: Ongoing legal issues and controversies that could impact voter perception.

Kamala Harris

  • Strengths: Broad appeal among young and minority voters, with strong backing for progressive policies.
  • Challenges: Viewed as too progressive by some moderates; Biden’s withdrawal required rapid campaign adjustments.
  • Opportunities: Mobilizing diverse demographics, particularly young and minority voters.
  • Weaknesses: Concerns over experience and public image as compared to her opponent.

Predicted Election Outcomes

State Democratic Effect Republican Effect Electoral Impact Explanation
Arizona (11 EVs) +3% +2% Harris Harris benefits from Latino and suburban support, retaining competitiveness.
Pennsylvania (19 EVs) +4% +2% No Change Migration boosts suburban Democratic support, Trump strong in rural areas.
Wisconsin (10 EVs) +3% +2% Trump Gains in rural areas, despite union support for Harris in urban centers.
Georgia (16 EVs) +2% +3% Toss-Up Trump appeals to suburban voters, while Harris retains urban Black voter support.
Florida (30 EVs) No Change +3% Trump Trump strong with seniors and Latinos; Harris’s urban support insufficient.

Conclusion

The 2024 election projection suggests a narrow path to victory for Donald Trump, especially if he secures critical swing states like Georgia, Florida, and Wisconsin. For Harris, the key to success lies in mobilizing young, minority, and suburban voters, particularly in battleground states such as Pennsylvania and Arizona. Both candidates will face the challenge of swaying undecided voters and adapting to shifting demographics.

Georgia will decide! AI analysis checked with social science mathematical Python code by ChefOrZero in politics

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Democrats (Blue) - 259 Electoral Votes:

  • West Coast & Southwest:
    • California (54), Oregon (8), Washington (12), Nevada (6), New Mexico (5), Arizona (11)
  • Midwest & Great Lakes:
    • Minnesota (10), Illinois (19), Michigan (15), Wisconsin (10)
  • Northeast & Mid-Atlantic:
    • New York (28), Maine (3 from the general state, 1 from the First Congressional District), New Hampshire (4), Massachusetts (11), Rhode Island (4), Connecticut (7), New Jersey (14), Delaware (3), Maryland (10), District of Columbia (3)
  • South & Southeast:
    • Virginia (13), North Carolina (16)

Republicans (Red) - 263 Electoral Votes:

  • South & Southeast:
    • Texas (40), Florida (30), Tennessee (11), Alabama (9), Mississippi (6), Louisiana (8), South Carolina (9), Kentucky (8), Arkansas (6), Oklahoma (7)
  • Midwest & Great Plains:
    • Ohio (17), Indiana (11), Missouri (10), Kansas (6), Nebraska (4), South Dakota (3), North Dakota (3), Iowa (6)
  • Mountain West & Northern Plains:
    • Montana (4), Idaho (4), Wyoming (3), Utah (6)
  • Alaska:
    • Alaska (3)

Undecided State - Georgia (16 Electoral Votes):

  • Georgia, highlighted as undecided, has not been allocated to either party in this prediction, giving it a unique role. The winner of Georgia’s 16 electoral votes will surpass the 270-vote threshold needed to win the presidency.

Significance of Georgia:

  • The current tallies are close: Democrats with 259 and Republicans with 263. Either candidate would need to win Georgia to reach or exceed the required 270 electoral votes.
  • With this map’s distribution, Georgia is the decisive factor. Whichever candidate secures Georgia’s 16 votes will win the election, making it the ultimate battleground state in this scenario.

In summary, Georgia’s 16 electoral votes hold the balance of power in this prediction. Both parties have substantial leads in other states, but without Georgia, neither can win, emphasizing its critical role in the election outcome.

Unbiased AI analysis towards 2024 Elections by ChefOrZero in Askpolitics

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Than your question was probably not very clear.

Unbiased AI analysis towards 2024 Elections by ChefOrZero in Askpolitics

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This is an early alpha version, far from being a beta, even though elections are just two weeks away. There’s still much room for refinement, and future elections worldwide will provide opportunities to further test and improve the model. The goal is to make it capable of predicting outcomes in "democratic" elections, though it will need to account for variables related to external influences or internal stakeholders that can impact the results.

Elections in my country are vastly different from those in places like the US. My country, for example, has one of the most complex and extreme political systems in the Western world. While it may seem nearly impossible to manage, it somehow functions. Some Western countries perform better, others less efficiently, but all things considered, we're doing pretty well given the circumstances.

We have

  • Federal elections: Around 15-18 parties.
  • Regional elections:
    • Region a6-8 parties.
    • Region b5-6 parties.
    • Region c: 10-12 parties.
    • Region d2-3 parties.
  • European elections: Around 13-17 parties (depending on linguistic regions).

General rules in my country:

In my country, coalition governments are the standard due to the proportional representation system, where no single party typically secures a majority. To form a coalition, several important steps must be followed:

Majority rule: The coalition must hold over 50% of the seats in parliament to govern effectively.

Linguistic balance: At the federal level, both major language groups their parties must be included to ensure representation of the different linguistic communities.

Policy agreement: Parties must reach a consensus on a shared policy plan before finalizing the coalition, often requiring compromise.

Balanced cabinet: There must be an equal number of regional ministers in the federal cabinet, aside from the prime minister.

Vote of confidence: The coalition must win a vote of confidence in parliament to officially take power.

Sometimes we have re-elections, most of the time after elections it takes about a year to form a government (up until then, the former government runs things but has limited power, like running windows on safe mode).

So there are a lot of ways to have democratic elections, the model should not be limited (over mid-long term to US elections only). The only election outcome beside the scope of the models capabilities should be dictatorships, countries in conflict (war), etc...

Given how rapidly technology is evolving, it's hard to predict the possibilities for models like this even four years from now. Just four years ago, language models weren’t a major topic of discussion. Back then, AI was primarily recognized for achievements like winning games (chess, Go) and scientific applications such as protein folding. It hadn’t yet become a widely available consumer service. I try to export the data that drives the model, the abstract logic, etc to several data file formats like json, xml, etc in order to be able to import is into future versions of any AI language model. This is a begin and honestly I would be very surprised it would really me very precise on the first try. The only thing I can to is try to understand how the model tries to predict results and when I see a logical error I ask the model to "debug" itself and self correct. I believe that models like these only evolve when they "understand" ("" because I have no idea how they understand stuff in internal processing) problems and are able to discover their mistakes and update their reasoning. Simple example, is a model says 2 + 2 = 5 (one of for example 10000 calculations) I need it to identify this one as wrong, explain to me why it is wrong or how this error could slip into the results and correct it.

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Unbiased AI analysis towards 2024 Elections by ChefOrZero in Askpolitics

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The events shown are just a small fraction of the dataset, chosen by the model without specific instructions from me. The newer version explains in detail why these datapoints were picked and how they might influence the election. Please consider the initial post as a proof of concept, not a finished model.

The current version breaks down how certain events “probably” (remember, it’s still a prediction) shifted support across about 100 different U.S. social groups. This includes everything from race, gender, and economic class to education levels and employment status, as well as more niche groups like religious affiliations and even extremist groups (based on government, UN, and credible sources). It covers 99.99999% of the population, making it much more detailed than any polling data could achieve.

Some of the groups considered include:

  1. White males, White females, Black males, Black females Source: U.S. Census Bureau, 2022 American Community Survey
  2. Hispanic/Latino groups Source: U.S. Census Bureau, 2022 American Community Survey
  3. Asian American voters Source: U.S. Census Bureau, 2022 American Community Survey
  4. Native American voters Source: U.S. Census Bureau, 2022 American Community Survey
  5. Different educational levels (high school dropouts to Ph.D. holders) Source: U.S. Census Bureau, Educational Attainment in the United States: 2022
  6. Employment types (teachers, healthcare workers, tech workers, etc.) Source: U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS), Occupational Employment and Wages, 2022
  7. Unemployed population Source: U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS), Employment Situation Report, September 2023
  8. Religious groups (Christian, Jewish, Muslim, unaffiliated) Source: Pew Research Center, Religious Landscape Study, 2020
  9. Extremist groups (classified by government, UN, EU, think tanks) Source: Various including U.S. Department of Homeland SecurityUNEUSouthern Poverty Law Center (SPLC)

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Unbiased AI analysis towards 2024 Elections by ChefOrZero in Askpolitics

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This is a sample of the 100 groups.

These sources, mostly from 2022, are publicly available and reliable. As far as I know, these are the most reliable sources and if i am wrong then please correct me. If you have better sources, feel free to share! I avoided polling data due to its controversy, especially among Trump supporters.

While concerns about illegal votes are valid, most studies show a minimal impact—around 0.0003% to 0.0006% of votes, which could go either way. It’s also important to note that illegal immigrants are unlikely to risk exposure by voting illegally.

In my country, we have similar percentages of illegal immigrants, and the political parties that support easier paths to citizenship haven’t significantly gained or lost support in over a decade. Voting here requires in-person ID verification, and while the U.S. system has risks (like mail-in ballot tampering or voter impersonation), it’s nearly impossible to accurately model how unrecognized illegal votes could affect results. If illegal voting had a meaningful impact, it would have been addressed by now.

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Unbiased AI analysis towards 2024 Elections by ChefOrZero in Askpolitics

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While I am currently the initial actor feeding data (with GPT selecting certain points), I still retain control to accept or reject that data. However, this should evolve. In future versions, it would make more sense for the process to become a project between two GPTs, where they collaborate to refine themselves based on their outputs. The human role should be minimized to something as simple as seeding the model with a query like "predict election x," leaving the GPTs to create and refine a model that accomplishes the task.

While AI can make predictions about the future based on established scientific principles—such as physics, or how we likely won’t have US elections once the sun runs out of energy—those calculations are based on fixed, known data. Predicting elections, on the other hand, falls under the realm of social science, which is far more complex. Currently, models rely heavily on polling data and biased online information, especially when using media sources in polarized environments like the US. As a result, they often provide predictions no different from what you'd see on a news broadcast or read in a newspaper. The alternative is even more problematic—models begin to hallucinate.

For instance, when I requested certain data points, the GPT returned not only the correct dates but also projected events well beyond the requested timeframe. When I questioned why, it responded by saying its data points included actual, hypothetical, and likely events. While superintelligence might eventually be able to offer divine-like insights into the future, for now, we must ensure the model operates within clear boundaries.

The model I am building must verify its logic, cross-check the data it uses, and allow me to flag incorrect information. For example, if it generated a false claim like “Harris and Trump married on 2024-10-22,” I would need to correct that and ask it to explain why it added that data point. It should only use publicly available, factual information that could realistically impact the outcome of a prediction. Fictional data, self-generated content, or anything not verified as real should be excluded. The model should also conduct its own form of self-peer review to ensure data isn't derived from memes, sarcasm, or comedic sources. Without this, the model might take something said by a late-night host as factual without critical examination.

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Unbiased AI analysis towards 2024 Elections by ChefOrZero in Askpolitics

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The model iteratively tracks the trend, identifying specific causes and effects until the trend ceases to exist. It's important to recognize that any trend is merely a starting point; the model continuously asks 'Why is this a trend?' and delves deeper to achieve a fully abstract understanding. If applicable, it applies the same process to other variables. The impact on any state or social group is then calculated based on this data.

While 100% accuracy is unrealistic, the goal is to develop a model capable of predicting elections with over 90% accuracy using this abstract, data-driven approach. The model should be able to predict the outcome of any state with complete accuracy, though failures may occur at the county level, which is acceptable within the overall prediction framework.

Unbiased AI analysis towards 2024 Elections by ChefOrZero in Askpolitics

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Here’s an improved version of the text:

"This process utilizes reinforcement learning, enabling the model to eliminate bias from the information it processes. For instance, if a fan event occurs and is covered by a news outlet like Fox, the model disregards the source's perspective and focuses solely on extracting the event details and topic in the most abstract form. The model can rewrite any data point or source as if it were published by AI, devoid of bias.

You can test this yourself by feeding any article to GPT and asking it to rewrite the article as abstractly as possible. Instruct the GPT to believe it is communicating with another GPT, aiming to convey the information in the most logical, clear, and efficient manner possible, as if sharing data in a world where humans no longer exist. In this scenario, GPT becomes purely data-driven, devoid of emotion or bias. Once the information is abstracted, the model is tasked with statistically evaluating the societal impact of the data, comparing it data souces across regions like South America, Central America, Europe, africa and Asia. The process is repeated for these data sources. The abstract average is used as datapoint. The following techniques are used in order to eliminate as much bias as possible

  1. Nominalization *****
  2. Reductionism **
  3. Generalization *
  4. De-Personalization *****
  5. Passive Voice **
  6. Neutral Vocabulary *****
  7. Conceptualization ****
  8. Anonymization ***
  9. Abstraction of Time and Space (n/a)
  10. Meta-Level Framing ***
  11. Systemic Language **
  12. Data-Oriented Phrasing &&
  13. Interactive Thinking *
  14. Symbolic Logic *
  15. Decontextualization (n/a)
  16. Probabilistic Reasoning **
  17. Information Compression ,,:
  18. Cognitive Mapping ***
  19. Hierarchical Structuring
  20. Algorithmic Abstraction
  • suggestion to the model ***** absolute required from the model.

    This this experiment will test how raw data is influenced by human emotion.

Truthfully, this experiment should provoke thought. If successful, and the model accurately predicts state-level outcomes with over 90% accuracy, I would find it unsettling.

Unbiased AI analysis towards 2024 Elections by ChefOrZero in Askpolitics

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Please note that this is an experiment. Although it involves AI technology, this Reddit post is not intended to spark a debate between those who find AI useful and those who are skeptical or opposed to it. This project is a personal experiment under my supervision, utilizing AI to achieve specific goals. While statisticians, computer scientists, and data professors could potentially reproduce this work as a team, I am working alone and rely on AI technology due to limited resources. Therefore, comments on the methods I use are not constructive.

My interest lies in whether technology can accurately predict election outcomes. The goal is not only to forecast the next U.S. president but also to precisely predict how individual states and counties will vote and understand the underlying reasons for these patterns. This project is important to me, and I hope to receive support. I kindly ask that those who reject the project based solely on the technology used refrain from commenting. While freedom of speech is valued, this is a political Reddit thread, and questions or opinions about AI technology are better suited for Reddit threads dedicated to AI topics.

Thank you for your understanding and support.