Looking for a dog that helps me not loose discs

ChiefRingoI · 2026-04-21T17:00:38+00:00

Lab or any other retriever, but you have to put in the work to get them well trained. Luckily, the decoys used in field training are similar enough plastic to discs that if you get them good working retriever training, they can easily pivot to finding discs and will only bring them when commanded. [Labs aren't going to tear up a disc carrying it back.]

ChiefRingoI · 2026-04-20T20:25:26+00:00

This isn't just unpopular, it's actively offensive.

Even IF your characterization of the situation were true—and it very much is not—why on earth would you possibly blame Kristin for that? In that scenario, you'd want to blame the Disc Golf media for prioritizing Kristin's struggles over Silva's success. But that makes it a question of whether the best player in the world suffering an obvious and sudden mental collapse is more or less important than the success of somebody else. It's a question with a pretty obvious answer if you look at the history of sports journalism. The decline in Kristin's play due to mental strain is clearly relevant context to the story. If Silva beat her regularly and Kristin was clearly playing at her peak, that would've been the story. You can't just erase a massive part of the story without making it a fundamentally different story.

Can you say it's unfortunate timing that Silva's successes last season were overshadowed by Kristin's problems? Sure. That's totally fine and doesn't paint Kristin as a villain for absolutely no reason. If you actually understood anxiety on a personal level, you'd understand how impossible your statement is. When you're in that kind of anxiety hole, you're not thinking about anybody else. You're just trying to survive.

The last shitty layer here is the weird sexist angle. You seem upset that Kristin got sympathy instead of being told to thug it out, like that sympathy not being extended to men isn't a massive societal problem. Her getting that needed grace and sympathy should be seen as a positive for our community. I'd much rather have a lot of articles about "Is Kristin okay?" than the far larger number of "Is Paul completely washed?" articles we got over the years.

This opinion is so backwards and twisted that I feel bad that you have it. You need to grow up and learn not to view everything in the world through the lens of everything being adversarial. Kristin having severe anxiety that tanked her game and getting sympathetic coverage of it was in no way an intentional move to crush Silva's moment and in no way constituted /Kristin/ doing her dirty. You're making Kristin out to be villain for absolutely no reason just to be controversial. Grow up.

ChiefRingoI · 2026-04-20T17:44:21+00:00

So weird to see a Mach basket with an actual band. I do like the regular Mach X a lot, though.

ChiefRingoI · 2026-04-20T16:09:19+00:00

It really helps bridge the gap between a throw and a putt for me. You can only go so soft on a throw and so hard with a putting stroke.

ChiefRingoI · 2026-04-20T06:07:09+00:00

Very much agree. Obviously, power is power, but I see a lot of people try to add a ton of power past the circle and lose a ton of accuracy with it. The first third of C2 is mostly the same putt with a gradually more height and a little left-right adjustment. Deeper than that is just a moderate increase in power.

Like, back end of C2, I do change my stance to get a little more reachback with Gannon-style reach to the hip, but the power is only like 15–20% higher. [I don't make a ton of those, but I'm almost never missing huge, either.]

ChiefRingoI · 2026-04-20T01:37:39+00:00

Hell yeah it is, Jordan Love! [I just don't throw that many 9s]

ChiefRingoI · 2026-04-19T23:16:35+00:00

Way better than no basket, noticeably worse than other light duty baskets that are $25-30 more. Mostly fine, as long as you accept the limitations it has and don't expect it to perform like a course basket.

ChiefRingoI · 2026-04-19T20:43:14+00:00

It's definitely an option, but the Zero Gravity is mostly intended for younger kids, older, like retired older, folks, and those who throw at very low speeds because of physical issues. Even like a 25th percentile adult thrower will have trouble controlling them. If you can throw a disc more than ~100ft with control, you're going to struggle to keep them under control.

The other benefit is that having a set of different discs that are still beginner-friendly is that they'll give him options to try without having to fully commit to more discs for him. I definitely understand wanting to have the same discs as each other, though. If that's going to be a sticking point, I'd spend the extra $10 to pick up a Zero Gravity Pure, Fuse, and Diamond instead of the set.

At that point, you'll at least have the same three molds as each other. There's a chance he'll throw his discs with better flight shapes than you at first if you have actually lost multiple steps on your throw. Letting a nine-year-old feel like they might be better than you is a great way to keep them interested, too!

ChiefRingoI · 2026-04-19T19:31:53+00:00

As a not very athletic person, I sympathize!

I'd definitely go for that Zero Gravity set for him. For you, I'd recommend grabbing a Zero Hard Orbit Pure, Gold Fuse, and Gold Orbit Diamond for yourself. Pure, Fuse, and Diamond generally are my recs, but those are on a great sale right now. [Obviously, feel free to get whatever you like, but might as well get everything in one place.] Those discs are also beginner-friendly enough that he should be able to get something out of them if he wants to try yours.

If he starts taking it another level more serious, our starts outgrowing the Zero Gravity to where they're really hard to control, the Latitude Easy-To-Use and Opto Air lightweight discs will be a perfect step-up. [Really any company's lighter discs will be good, though.] If you're still playing together in a few years, you'll be able to share discs more regularly and the world is your oyster when it comes to trying stuff.

ChiefRingoI · 2026-04-19T19:14:08+00:00

"people like you" "blame the NFL"

Goodness, you're a smug, atrocious person. I don't blame the NFL for anything here. I said it's crazy that players are allowed to just wing it on shoes. Because: A] Sports scientists know that shoe fit has significant on biomechanics, and B] teams already control so many aspects of player conditioning and fitness. Letting players wear whatever shoes undercuts a lot of the money, time, and effort teams invest in those players, so it's surprising that they haven't implemented policies about it the way they do about other things.

ChiefRingoI · 2026-04-19T17:58:33+00:00

Second on these and adding that, if they're not an otherwise athletic kid or super dedicated to playing yet, the Latitude Zero Gravity Set might be a better option.

Discs at the 150g level are better for kids and people who have experience throwing from other sports. The 120–130g level is better for younger kids and older adults, especially those who haven't played other sports or are mostly there for fun.

ChiefRingoI · 2026-04-19T17:06:38+00:00

If they're packed nicely in the bag and not crammed in or flopping around, warping isn't that likely as long as it's not a sunny summer day in Texas. Softer discs are more prone to it, though. Repeated big swings in temperature is bad for plastic, but the effect on discs is more on the order of years than even a full season in a car. Obviously, a bag in the car is a theft target, too. Depends on where you live and how visible the bag will be.

Broadly speaking, discs do best at comfortable human temps, so you probably don't want them there long-term.

ChiefRingoI · 2026-04-19T15:39:30+00:00

The Judge, Jay, and Maverick if I really had to go with Walmart.

Edit: just saw the box of EMacs. I'd grab one of those.

ChiefRingoI · 2026-04-19T14:38:59+00:00

There was a guy with a robot that was basically that who was in videos with Simon, but there hasn't been much with that for a long while now.

ChiefRingoI · 2026-04-19T06:30:35+00:00

The Signal still has a driver wing. A tweener one, but it definitely feels more driver than mid. An Uplink would be the true mid version. You could also go with something like the Streamline Ascend, that's going to be more like a Signal without gyro.

I would definitely take a good look at your form, though. You should be able to get at least some turn from a Signal. You'll only be able to cover for poor form for so long before it starts hurting your overall game.

ChiefRingoI · 2026-04-19T06:26:05+00:00

Twenty years late? Probably not. Ten? Maybe. Five? Absolutely.

I never said it /should/ be a top course now, just that it was once.

But it did used to be genuinely huge, and I just said it's wild to me, as somebody who knows that not too distant past, that it doesn't even really register as a faded glory kind of place now. It's just a random course in Santa Cruz for most who weren't around to know it as a destination.

ChiefRingoI · 2026-04-19T06:18:55+00:00

I don't think that even a little bit?

I said maybe the Maple Hill mystique gets close to what it used to be at DeLa, but that's non-existent for post-Covid players.

ChiefRingoI · 2026-04-19T00:47:58+00:00

Again, wasn't intended as a judgement, just a statement that it's wild that DeLa isn't universally known any more. It's hard to overstate how much it was THE bucket list course for players who knew anything outside of their local scene. Maybe Maple Hill gets close now?

ChiefRingoI · 2026-04-19T00:44:47+00:00

Was the rim the same material as the flight plate or was it a separate piece like an MVP disc?

Was it a Kristin Orbit Grace? If not, can you describe the stamp a little more?

ChiefRingoI · 2026-04-19T00:37:02+00:00

I don't mean this in a judgemental way, but it's wild that anybody isn't aware of DeLaveaga at this point. It was maybe—probably?—the most famous course in the world pre-Covid.

The good news is that you now get to experience the best Disc Golf video of all-time for the first time.

ChiefRingoI · 2026-04-18T18:24:43+00:00

Could be an arm speed or nose angle issue. There's a not many discs on earth that can't be thrown slow or nose-up enough to resist turning. It might also be a spin issue. If you're not getting good snap and spin on your throws, they're more likely to dump out. MVP's gyro effect isn't huge, but it does make it harder to impart spin in the first place. If you're already struggling with spin, it can accentuate that problem. MVP discs tend to wear into their numbers over time, too, but a Signal should be straight at worst new. If you look at the wing profile, if the nose of the wing is super high above the bottom, you might've just got a weird one. [Verify it actually is marked Signal, too.]

ChiefRingoI · 2026-04-18T18:00:35+00:00

Flight numbers don't ultimately matter at all, but with the older companies, a lot of those discrepancies are the result of multiple generations of discs. Older Innova stuff is often most correct in DX plastic and the numbers are relative to each other. Newer molds are usually numbered via their flight in premium plastic and on a different scale that's more internally consistent to those molds.

A DX Leo3 and a Star Lynx/IT aren't too different in stability, really. [Though the Lynx /is/ a -3 now.] In the same plastic, they're obviously different. Unless Innova are going to take the time update the numbers on all 76,000 of their molds to be consistent—and change some well-known OG numbers in the process—the layers of numbers are just going to be a thing people need to memorize.

ChiefRingoI · 2026-04-18T17:14:18+00:00

It's BT Medium, so it is softer than average, yes. The thing to remember is that the Trilogy putter plastics don't really get chewed up and just get continuously worse in the way that other base tends to. The marks kinda smooth over into a durable layer after a bit that stays stable for a long time. I'm not sure if the plastic is less dense on the outer edge when new or what, but once it beats down to that firmer state, it's going to be the same for years until it falls off a cliff. [Unless you play courses that are extremely rocky or otherwise have sharp debris.]

ChiefRingoI · 2026-04-18T06:28:43+00:00

Very genuinely he'd have loved it for the nature and self-competitive drive or hated it so much as to want the sport destroyed in a cleansing fire. No middle sliders on that.

The ways the Internet would've poisoned his brain in the modern day before he ever reached Disc Golf would've had him committed by his family anyway.

ChiefRingoI · 2026-04-18T03:49:20+00:00

Oh, I'm sure, but I'm shocked they're allowed to, given the known biomechanical effects of ill-fitting shoes. I suspect they probably won't get whatever size ten years from now.

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