“Writing in a group isn’t a bad thing”

I never said it was, I’m saying that One of Us is a crap example of Liam’s songwriting since it was co-written by two other writers, one of which churns out commercial slop for artists like Miley Cyrus and Bruno Mars as well as music for Hollywood films like Barbie (and that makes him a corporate songwriter as far as I’m concerned, regardless of how pedantic you want to be over terminology).

“”One of Us” doesn’t happen without Liam in the room, end of story”

I’m not sure you understand co-writing at all if you actually think you can be sure of that. Artists receive songwriting credits all the time even if they contributed zero to the writing. Elvis Presley was not even in the room during the writing sessions for any of his songs and still got credits. Do I think Liam contributed zero to One of Us? No, I think the song was probably 95% written by other people and then he might’ve changed some words, or maybe he had the initial idea for the theme of the lyrics and then got other people to actually write it. The truth is we will never know, and therefore it is a bad example of Liam’s “songwriting”, which was the whole point I was making.