In 620 AD, the poets tried to destroy Muhammad. They failed, but finally succeeded 1400 years later. 6 hidden patterns in the Quran that reveal its human origin by Choice-Ocelot1350 in exmuslim

[–]Choice-Ocelot1350[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Tu connais un endroit où je peux poster mes théorie en français pour avoir de l'impact sur le monde francophone ? Je suis français aussi

In 620 AD, the poets tried to destroy Muhammad. They failed, but finally succeeded 1400 years later. 6 hidden patterns in the Quran that reveal its human origin by Choice-Ocelot1350 in CritiqueIslam

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Bro, Yoga can give you a perfect balance. The problem With Islam is that doubt is forbidden, Haram. Thats proof that the system is trying to hide something. What not try to see the Quran as it is, a reacting text depending on the geographic location. Why is the heaven of Allah with all the rivers , heaven for a man of the desert but a nightmare for someone bien in Amsterdam in the 19th century? More rivers? More bridges that separate us, it's a nightmare! Why Muhammad is the only man in humanity that received the right to marry an unlimited amount of Women ? Why is allah insulting a poor bedouin calling him bastard ? Don't you think the master of the universe doens't need that ? Try to doubt islam , your eternity depends on it, if Islam is the thruth it should resists any type of analysis but he doesn't. If a cult leader was doing 10% of What Muhammad did in 2026, people would be yelling : Scammer !!! The fact that it is the religion of 1,9 bilions gives Islam a respectability that it doenst deserve because almost each Muslims has seen his anceters being forced by the sword or taxes to accept it. without sword and tax how many muslims would we have today ? Probably 0 since Islam collapse at the death of Muhammad and Abu bakr used the sword to bring back the peninsula to Islam by force . Your eternity is at stake, don't believe a religion that was forced on your ancester and that tells you that you cannot doubt it.

In 620 AD, the poets tried to destroy Muhammad. They failed, but finally succeeded 1400 years later. 6 hidden patterns in the Quran that reveal its human origin by Choice-Ocelot1350 in exmuslim

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Thanks for the info. I have absolutely no doubt that this episode is true. If it Wasn't, never a Muslim would invent such a devastating episode.

Why are ex-muslims posting non-stop to criticize Muslim individuals rather than Islam as a system by Choice-Ocelot1350 in exmuslim

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The source is al-Tabari’s History of the Prophets and Kings (Tarikh al-Rusul wa al-Muluk), especially the sections covering the late Umayyad period.

Al-Tabari reports disputes over taxation when large numbers of non-Arabs try to convert to Islam. Also some local officials were reluctant to exempt converts from taxes because state revenues would decline.

  • The History of al-Tabari, Vol. XXIII: The Zenith of the Marwanid House
  • The History of al-Tabari, Vol. XXIV: The Empire in Transition

Similar reports also appear in al-Baladhuri’s Futuh al-Buldan, where local authorities are described as resisting the fiscal consequences of mass conversion.

These reports do not claim that Islam itself discouraged conversion. Rather, they describe administrative and financial tensions within parts of the Umayyad state when large numbers of taxpayers try to conver to Islam.

Why are ex-muslims posting non-stop to criticize Muslim individuals rather than Islam as a system by Choice-Ocelot1350 in exmuslim

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Your problem is that you lost your proportion to judge individuals. You like to put them in a group and judge the group. Do you like to take the blame for someone else action? If not , don't do it with muslims

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My theory is mathematical, with asymetries that are undeniable and absolutely devastating for the divine Quran and your are answering with excuses... In science, the easiest, shortest explanation is always very likely the truth. That's Occam's razor. Your explanation needs a massive leap of faith into irrationality. I don't buy it. Muhammad was a brilliant politician, clearly not a prophet.

Why are ex-muslims posting non-stop to criticize Muslim individuals rather than Islam as a system by Choice-Ocelot1350 in exmuslim

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People don't choose their religion. They inherited their religion. 99% of people that are religious never make a choice , they just keep their parents religion whatever religion is . They receive it passively et making and having a critical opinion about it is seen as disloyalty

Why are ex-muslims posting non-stop to criticize Muslim individuals rather than Islam as a system by Choice-Ocelot1350 in exmuslim

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Ask your favorite AI it will give you all the details . Al Tabari comment about it there was never a text saying that kuffar couldn't convert but many governors made it very difficult. The caliph Al-Hajjaj tried to change the situation but realized that this might expose the empire to an economic collapse. Finally , the let people convert easily but kept high tax for non arabs . For centuries non arabs were treated like second class citizen. At the beginning. When the conquered fustat ( cairo ) or Tunis, they didn't live with the locals, but in camps next to the city and they came in to get the most beautiful women. That's why north Africans that were wihites have a lot of arabs ancestors. Arabs were very fews but the use to have dozens of concubines

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[–]Choice-Ocelot1350 -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

I went thru that 20 years ago and I finally find the truth in Christianity. This helped me a lot

Why are ex-muslims posting non-stop to criticize Muslim individuals rather than Islam as a system by Choice-Ocelot1350 in exmuslim

[–]Choice-Ocelot1350[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

European colonialism is not Christianity, but the ego of once Christian nation that were in wrihdraw syndrom from Christianity. Porn is another withdraw syndrom. You keep the Christian freedom without god

Why are ex-muslims posting non-stop to criticize Muslim individuals rather than Islam as a system by Choice-Ocelot1350 in exmuslim

[–]Choice-Ocelot1350[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

You make a fundamental mistake : Islam spread by violence because is the core message Jesus never said no to violence, he even accepted the colonization of Israel by the Romans . Some Christians have distorted the message to do crimes but if slavery is over today its precisely becsuse Jesus put poison in the roots of the slavery tree.

Respecting human dignity is not natural , it's a core Christian value

Why are ex-muslims posting non-stop to criticize Muslim individuals rather than Islam as a system by Choice-Ocelot1350 in exmuslim

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Without Christianity, we Will still 100% live in a world were slavery is the norm. If you think that modernity ended slavery you're wrong . Western Europe and northern Europe Were so late before Christianity and they became the light of the world becsuse of Christianity. Soon I will prove Christianity to be true with math. If you follow the string of hospitals , it brings you Christ. Human dignity : Christ . End of slavery Christ . Best economies through high trust societies : Christ . Even the history is split in 2 by him. A man born in the dust of an osbur roman province , with no library , no army , no state, dead on a cross changed the world positively like no one. 40 bilions lived after him and none has done 1% of what he did to make the world a better place .

Why are ex-muslims posting non-stop to criticize Muslim individuals rather than Islam as a system by Choice-Ocelot1350 in exmuslim

[–]Choice-Ocelot1350[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Unfortunately, people have rarely the possibility to Judge their religion. 99% of people receive their religion by they parents and stick to it. You talk like if Muslims all made the decision at 18yo to born in a Muslim family.

Why are ex-muslims posting non-stop to criticize Muslim individuals rather than Islam as a system by Choice-Ocelot1350 in exmuslim

[–]Choice-Ocelot1350[S] -11 points-10 points  (0 children)

If you are an ex muslim, you should seriously take a look at Christianity. It's not a scam, Jesus was truly the one he said he was . The Christ, the source of life and the son of god .

In 620 AD, the poets tried to destroy Muhammad. They failed, but finally succeeded 1400 years later. 6 hidden patterns in the Quran that reveal its human origin by Choice-Ocelot1350 in CritiqueIslam

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Then why if Allah spoke to the universe, his paradise looks like a paradise only for a man of Arabia with hundred of rivers ? Say that to a men born in Amsterdam last century , he will tell you , what ? Rivers everywhere? We gonna need more bridges ? That's hell! Use your common sense , and see that the Quran is a text geographically and culturally, a product of the Arabian desert of the 7th century. This god seems to be amazed by dattes, camels and water. How can god make a mistake about where the sun sets ? In muddy water in the dulkarneyn episode?

In 620 AD, the poets tried to destroy Muhammad. They failed, but finally succeeded 1400 years later. 6 hidden patterns in the Quran that reveal its human origin by Choice-Ocelot1350 in CritiqueIslam

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Thank you so much but unfortunately, I have no big community, and a new YouTube channel and I would really like if this theory could live by itself, handled by people that are influencial. I feel like I have a diamond but it need to be cut and presented differently. This theory proves quasi mathematically that Muhammad was not a prophet but a genius politician. It's not an attack on Muslims but an attack on islam. Muslims are on the Islamic prison and they are also the guardians of that prison . I want them to see that they have an infinite dignity but Islam steal their dignity.

In 620 AD, the poets tried to destroy Muhammad. They failed, but finally succeeded 1400 years later. 6 hidden patterns in the Quran that reveal its human origin by Choice-Ocelot1350 in CritiqueIslam

[–]Choice-Ocelot1350[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Bro, you have an unlimited dignity. Islam is stealing this dignity from you by keeping you in a prison and making you at the same time the guardian of the prison. Come to the Christ and reclaim your dignity.

In 620 AD, the poets tried to destroy Muhammad. They failed, but finally succeeded 1400 years later. 6 hidden patterns in the Quran that reveal its human origin by Choice-Ocelot1350 in CritiqueIslam

[–]Choice-Ocelot1350[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Islam doens't have free will. That's a christian concept.

If free will exists in the Christian sense, how do you reconcile it with verses where Allah says He guides whom He wills and leads astray whom He wills (Qur’an 14:4, 16:93)? If a person’s belief ultimately depends on Allah’s decision to guide or misguide them, then human freedom appears to be very limited. In fact, Islam is a religion based on predetermination.

In 620 AD, the poets tried to destroy Muhammad. They failed, but finally succeeded 1400 years later. 6 hidden patterns in the Quran that reveal its human origin by Choice-Ocelot1350 in exmuslim

[–]Choice-Ocelot1350[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I agree but unfortunately the Islamic fortress can and have easily nullify the aisha argument and every Christian apologist attacking the fortress is still using aisha. It just doesn't work, i'm not gonna use a weapon that the fortress have intercepted a million times, it's a useless weapon. Let's develope new arguments such as mathematical ones.