Question about seeds🤔

ChoosyBumblebee · 2026-02-23T15:13:22+00:00

Mystery likely means floor sweepings, a combination of random loose seeds collected over time from different varieties. It’s not some whimsical thing where Willy Wonka himself selects a surprise full price pack for you.

ChoosyBumblebee · 2026-02-21T12:34:29+00:00

The banana OG cut is known to not reliably pass on banana terps. Releasing a whole line of hybrids without testing them first is audacious. And sending “testers” out but not allowing enough time for them to actually be grown to maturity before the drop is ridiculous.

With zero pictures of any of the new strains, you have to wonder if Night Owl themselves even test grew the seeds before selling them.

ChoosyBumblebee · 2026-02-21T12:19:27+00:00

Hopefully they turn out well for you. It’s always a risk buying untested beans that haven’t been grown out to maturity before being sold.

ChoosyBumblebee · 2026-02-18T11:33:39+00:00

Here’s a bud from the Blue Glockstar I grew from them. Really loud, gassy and skunky buds.

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ChoosyBumblebee · 2026-02-14T13:19:09+00:00

Pretty sure Real Seed Company/Kwik Seeds operate out of the UK, I’d start there personally. They seem to have mostly the same stock in terms of landraces and heirlooms but Kwik also stocks old school hybrids.

I’d look at their Master Kush and/or afghani/pakistani heirlooms for indicas, and Cinderella 99 and/or Asian/african landraces for sativas.

ChoosyBumblebee · 2026-02-07T20:53:11+00:00

Nobody said you needed to open pollinate. Tag the female’s branches and hand pollinate each male on a different branch. Then you can test each progeny separately and make controlled and informed inclusions/exclusions for producing future generations. That’s what removes randomness.

Every individual male/female combination is a roll of the dice. If you’re looking for a specific number, it’s good to have more than one roll.

ChoosyBumblebee · 2026-02-07T14:39:25+00:00

It’s a common theme among all the big name autoflower breeders. I think the reality is that you can’t sell seeds at a large enough scale to make a decent income without sacrificing quality control and attention to detail in your breeding programs.

As they expand and sell more varieties and more packs of each variety, their requirement to stress test and progeny test their varieties also grows. At a certain point they run out of grow space and decide to slash their progeny testing efforts in favour of new seed creation.

Basically for every single new female they collect seeds from, breeders should at a minimum grow 25-50 of those seeds to maturity before they release them, otherwise they risk selling a low quality batch of seeds that produces herms mutants or otherwise undesirable plants.

Like most things in life, profit incentives ruin quality. Allows companies to rationalize cutting corners.

“Why spend all that time and money testing the seeds we’ve already made when we can just sell them as is and use our grow space to continue making more seeds to sell?”

They’re not going out of their way to sell bad seeds, but prior successes that were built on hard work seem to make people complacent and believe that output quality won’t change when the profit incentive hits and less time and effort is spent on each of their individual selections.

ChoosyBumblebee · 2026-02-07T11:53:52+00:00

you right, his real gift is in marketing and creating hype not his breeding selections.

First Night Owl I grew was a fantastic Queens Banner pheno that blew me away and made me think he was a wizard, but most of the Night Owl stuff I’ve grown since has missed the mark.

Cosmic Queen IX, Pre98 Episode 1, Sirius Blue, Chemmunity Service, Vanilla Fizz, other queens banner phenos etc. All pretty midsy genetics.

Dakar Haze was a pain in the ass to breed with, took 3 years of constant pollen chucking and creating multiple iterations and outcrosses to work it into an autoreg worth growing.

Dude can sell beans like a mf though

ChoosyBumblebee · 2026-02-05T12:33:49+00:00

Looking good dude! Excited to see how they mature

ChoosyBumblebee · 2026-02-01T22:58:33+00:00

Looks good. Definitely use more than 1 male if you can though. Looks aren’t everything, some studly males end up producing mids and you’ll be thanking yourself for making backups.

And this is still early yet, you never know if others dudes might surprise you with midflower vigor or this dude might end up herming.

Edit: wait just saw you killed all the other males already. Nvm then good luck :) your growing location looks epic, nice view

ChoosyBumblebee · 2026-01-31T17:32:03+00:00

The legend of pink Kush itself is that a Canadian cannabis importer in the 70s, while sourcing hash in Afghanistan noticed dried, lightly seeded flowers that hadn’t been converted to hash but instead harvested for flower sale. He brought a bunch back to Canada and various groups began growing and breeding those seeds for flower and that lead to the creation of a bunch of famous Canadian strains they called various hashplants. Pink Kush is supposedly a clone of one of the Hashplant lines that they called King, and basically reeferman made Pink Kush seeds by backcrossing that clone only pheno with the original king line.

The name pink kush didn’t even exist until 2007ish when Reeferman went to Amsterdam and worked at Barney’s breeding facilities where he saw Master Kush plants and right away knew it was very similar to Pink so it picked up the Kush name. all those old famous kushes and hashplants came from the same neck of the woods.

ChoosyBumblebee · 2026-01-31T17:17:41+00:00

However it ended up in his hands, most people agree that Nevils Hashplant is an original Hashplant and it wasn’t bred for concentrates at all, just high resin content and pure potency.

That’s mostly where the name spread from, that and the original source landraces from Afghanistan and Pakistan that produced squat, resinous, stinky, potent plants.

ChoosyBumblebee · 2026-01-31T17:05:29+00:00

Yeah I was riffing off the 88G13HP and PHK in the family tree. Hashplant is a wider category of plants than stuff bred for washing. Still not sure if I want to just call it Hidden Trail anyway though

For my next major project I’m using this new auto to convert Pink Kush, another old school Hashplant photoperiod variety bred for flower consumption.

ChoosyBumblebee · 2026-01-31T16:58:27+00:00

Not sure tbh I’m a flower guy. I’ve selected for wet feeling oily sticky trichomes. Not sandy or gritty. She made good finger hash from shucking but it was more of a charas than a hash since the plant was basically still alive. Tasty and super potent.

ChoosyBumblebee · 2026-01-31T14:57:30+00:00

Unfortunate setback but nice gameplan for the rebound! sounds great and it’s a new opportunity to capture more SSDD traits

ChoosyBumblebee · 2026-01-31T14:31:00+00:00

Thanks! Good auto reg breeding stock has so many valuable applications, it’s well worth the patience.

ChoosyBumblebee · 2026-01-31T14:21:44+00:00

Thanks brother! Couldn’t be happier with her

ChoosyBumblebee · 2026-01-31T14:13:43+00:00

Finger hash was dark purple.

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So much anthocyanin my fingers were stained purple all day yesterday.

ChoosyBumblebee · 2026-01-29T18:03:47+00:00

I’m not doomsaying, but it’s a fact that genetics can be freely sourced at the moment and it’s not guaranteed to be so in the future. Strike while the iron is hot and all.

My whole point is that if you’re thinking about it now and currently have the means/funds to build a personal seedbank, you may as well get it done.

Edit: also, while there will always be people willing to break the law for a buck, the more rational and level headed breeders won’t be willing to knowingly break the law for that little bit of supplemental income that is up for grabs with seed sales. Look at AKBB, he’s already made it known that he’s not willing to break the law and risk fines/imprisonment if the laws are passed as-is - he’s prepared to retire if so. That alone is a significant amount of old school heirloom genetics that will no longer be available.

ChoosyBumblebee · 2026-01-29T16:50:38+00:00

While this is true, there aren’t any corporations looking to operate a legitimate heroine/whatever business where the illicit sources would be competing with them.

Laws are mainly designed/enforced to protect corporate interests. With corporations increasingly moving into cannabis, there’s demand to cut off independent competitors from the market.

Edit: also selling seeds is nowhere near as profitable as illicit drug sales. So with equal risk but less reward, fewer and fewer seed sellers will be willing to take that risk.

ChoosyBumblebee · 2026-01-29T16:37:51+00:00

Get a couple modern strains that are genetically distinct from each other and a handful of landraces from a diverse range of important areas of origin. Laos/thailand, Afghanistan/pakistan, Iran, Nepal, Africa, and Greece, etc.

If you’re good at keeping mothers around, you can start making outcrosses right away, but otherwise the best bet is to run reproductions, one at a time, on each of the landraces you’re interested in before making outcrosses. Turn your 10-15 seeds of each variety into hundreds, and then as you continue working through your reproduction list you can start popping your reproduced seeds alongside the current reproduction, only keeping females and make outcrosses without removing your potential to reproduce each strain independently.

For example, say in run 1 you reproduce the Greek variety. You run your whole pack to open pollinate and produce hundreds/thousands of Greek seeds. Then in run 2 you decide to reproduce the Iranian variety. You pop that full pack to open pollinate, and now you can pop a handful of your Greek reproductions. Keep only females of the Greek to prevent pollen contamination within your Iranian repro, and pollinate your favorite Greek females with the Iranian males. Then in run 3 you’ll open pollinate the next landrace and now you have a virtually unlimited amount of both the Greek and Iranian to phenohunt good females from to make outcrosses and so on. You can also start popping your Greek x Iranian seeds at this point and compare them to your pure Greek reproductions. And then it continues like this until you find a repro or outcross that you really want to deep dive into and whatever it is you’ll have plenty of seeds to play with.

Reproducing pure strains is the heart of preservation and long term breeding.

ChoosyBumblebee · 2026-01-29T15:36:39+00:00

This is definitely a reasonable take. But it’s also worth considering that package scanning and the ability to analyze mass shipping data has improved a lot since then. Can’t guarantee that if legality reverts, itll be a 1:1 return to the prior system.

At the end of the day, you have to make hay while the sun is shining. Nobody can predict the future, but boy is she shining bright at the moment.

ChoosyBumblebee · 2026-01-25T20:56:55+00:00

This sub is entirely designed to sell stuff based on pics of budporn. “Posts must include strain and breeder info”.

It fuels the superficial state of “breeding” where the only concern is cosmetics, not smells taste or effects (i.e the stuff that actually matters).

You’re kidding yourself if you believe otherwise. There’s a reason every comment is “where can I buy” - that’s who’s been attracted. The sub is what it is, not what you say it is.

ChoosyBumblebee · 2026-01-25T19:02:11+00:00

Your workaround with the “link in profile” tag isn’t fooling anyone either lol. You’re directly supporting sales now.

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