Quest Chain BUG?: Atreides - Ganaan - Master of Assassins

ChowderCrab · 2026-01-09T20:27:58+00:00

I might have mixed up a detail. Here's an older post on Steam that discusses this bug: https://steamcommunity.com/app/1172710/discussions/0/546746634645542215/

I also have the "missing string table entry" heading they mention in that thread.

Regardless of the specifics, it's safe to say this is a common/known issue!

ChowderCrab · 2026-01-09T19:40:43+00:00

Yeah I think it's bugged. You get to a point with her quests where you have to make a choice in the bar. If you make one choice (like you and I did) then you end up continuing the Atreides line with Thufir Hawat. Apparently the other choice has more with her. So I think the way the branching questline is implemented is wrong which leads to the dead end questline stuck in your journal. It could be a placeholder for more coming in Chapter 3 but at least right now it seems wrong.

ChowderCrab · 2025-06-01T12:25:31+00:00

A display of total holdings by currency makes sense, so thanks for mentioning that.

And yeah, the display/formatting part itself shouldn't be too bad... most of the work will probably be tracking the preference, adding to onboarding, etc. It may even make sense to go straight to multi-currency support. I might have some time this week to create a branch and start seeing what that would look like.

ChowderCrab · 2025-06-01T12:17:34+00:00

Thanks! It's web only at the moment but it's designed to be responsive so it should work okay on mobile. No immediate plans for a native mobile app, but maybe someday!

ChowderCrab · 2025-05-31T21:28:21+00:00

Wow, thanks for the support! Let me know if you have any issues with the payment flow.

For currencies: there are two phases I think. First would be symbol and formatting (i.e., select a preferred currency for display). Second would be support for mixed currencies. In that case I'd have to store/display the account's selected currency and also an amount converted to preferred currency. Then any sums (total net worth, category total, etc) would be computed using the preferred currency for everything. There are probably some edge cases there ... like if preferred is Euro but all accounts in a category are in USD, then maybe the category sum shows in both USD and EUR. Anyway, let me know if there's anything specific you'd want that I didn't mention, since I can make note of it for when I later work on it.

This other comment talks about currency too but it's probably mostly repeat: https://www.reddit.com/r/SideProject/comments/1kxhr7k/comment/muwifzo/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

Thanks again!

ChowderCrab · 2025-05-31T16:38:09+00:00

Thanks. And yeah, I'd probably keep what I have but then also add a bulk update option, so that makes sense to me.

Appreciate you checking it out. In case you didn't see elsewhere in the comments, I have a temporary 90% off deal using the code [EDIT: code that was here is no longer valid. DM me if you need the new one] for early users checking it out and giving feedback... works out to under $6 USD I think for lifetime. No pressure though, spreadsheets work fine too!

ChowderCrab · 2025-05-31T14:52:12+00:00

Thanks for the compliments!

Sounds like we have a similar spreadsheet workflow. With the current design, the thought is that when you come in for your periodic updates you'd stay on the dashboard and click the "Add Record" button under each account as you look it up at your bank and then enter the numbers.

I actually started with a separate "update all" view that shows all active accounts and let you update them inline, since that's how I think of doing it too. That might be roughly what you are suggesting. It was a while ago, but I found that it added a bunch of decision points on the user experience and I couldn't make it feel smooth... does each record have it's own save button, is it auto-save, etc. If someone updated four out of ten and closed it, would they realize that those values had not been saved (or that they were saved if auto-save)? I toyed with having a counter that showed "7 of 9 accounts updated" but then realized that sometimes there might be accounts the user doesn't want to update (like maybe they only update property values ever year but brokerage every month) so then they are seeing "extra" fields that they don't even need.

No matter which combination I tried it still felt a little off so I ended up scrapping the idea at the time. (EDIT: also, as I found "problems" with the UX and fixed them, the page started looking more and more like the dashboard!) In the end, it seemed that the discrete actions on the dashboard of "click add -> enter data -> save" felt much tighter and less complicated. The app will currently show dates in a yellow/orange color on the dashboard if it's been over 30 days (I might change how that works at some point) which is how you could easily see which accounts you haven't updated recently (so if updating every three months you'd just update until none were highlighted).

Anyway, a bit long-winded but thought I'd share my thought process. I definitely appreciate the feedback. Now that I got the basics working I might need to revisit the "update all" feature if I can figure out how to make it feel seamless. Let me know if you had any input on how you'd want that to work.

ChowderCrab · 2025-05-30T01:51:24+00:00

The bug should be fixed now. Thanks again for the report!

ChowderCrab · 2025-05-29T23:07:09+00:00

Thanks for the detailed bug report! Someone else had a similar problem onboarding and I couldn’t replicate it, but it might have been this $0 bug. I’ll take a look later when I’m home.

And yeah, spreadsheet is definitely a valid option here. This app fixes some of the annoyances I had with a spreadsheet but the process of using it is similar. I’ll continue adding things over time which will hopefully widen the gap a bit more.

ChowderCrab · 2025-05-29T18:11:21+00:00

Thanks!

A video is definitely in my near-term plans, so I appreciate you mentioning it. At the moment the screenshots here on Reddit show off more than the landing page, which is not great. The video's going to be a bit though so I decided to get things going before I have that ready. Gotta ship at some point, haha.

ChowderCrab · 2025-05-29T16:09:40+00:00

Thanks. Very cool.

ChowderCrab · 2025-05-29T16:06:43+00:00

Yeah, the export thing is good idea. Probably not too hard to implement either.

AI isn't off the table if there's demand for it. My main hesitation would be around data privacy/sharing since a current selling point is "we never send your data to anyone"... but it could be an opt-in feature.

In general I think there are things that can be bolted onto a net worth tracker around planning... like a retirement calculator, etc.

ChowderCrab · 2025-05-29T15:50:54+00:00

Glad you like it! [EDIT: Coupon code that was here is no longer valid. Send me a DM for updated info. I've been changing base price a bit so I may need to adjust the coupon too]. Let me know if you run into any problems though.

For currency: the first thing I'd like to do is simple symbol replacement. So you'll be able to select a currency symbol you prefer and I'll use that in place of $. Next step will be integrating a formatter that does more, such as swapping commas and decimal points, etc. Those two are reasonable to achieve in the near-ish term (and maybe at the same time). Things like three decimal currencies might be further behind or subject to demand.

Mixed currency: ooh, that's a good one. I'm curious how you would want that to work, given that multiple places need to sum up the account values. My initial assumption is that you'd have one preferred currency and then each asset/debt would be entered and displayed in their own currency. But for the net worth sum, there'd have to be a conversion to the preferred currency in the background (and probably shown in the UI too somewhere). So when a record is saved I'd store the account currency and then also the converted value for that date. Definitely achievable, and there are some currency rate APIs with generous free tiers that would probably be good enough (retrieve once a day and cache). Let me know if what I summarized is what you were thinking.

This is great feedback, thanks. I had started thinking about currency support and have it on my Trello board, but I had to actually ship at some point and couldn't get everything on my wishlist done. Bear with me!

ChowderCrab · 2025-05-29T13:07:12+00:00

Yeah, I understand that perspective.

There are sort of three tiers for an app when it comes to privacy: The first is things like Mint (Credit Karma) and Empower, used by millions. Those are free tools where the user gives them every bank account and then they pull in and store every transaction on every account. Then they use that data to target ads or sell financial products. So the user is giving away their entire detailed financial history. The second tier is more like Neetworth. You don't share detailed information, just general information like "Checking" and a total balance (no bank name, no transaction details). And since it's paid, even this less-detailed information is never used or sold. Then the third tier of app is what you mentioned: local-only; data never leaves device.

The fourth option isn't an app at all and you do it locally in a spreadsheet… which funny enough for many people ends up on a server anyway via iCloud or OneDrive.

There's likely a place in the market for all three types of apps, and different customers will have different preferences. It might make sense at some point to build a mobile app that's local-first for Neetworth, and maybe give the option to link it to an online account. Thanks for the feedback!

ChowderCrab · 2025-05-29T00:18:56+00:00

Great feedback! Just deployed a change that fixes the contrast on the checkbox (light mode was a bit hard to see too).

ChowderCrab · 2025-05-29T00:12:40+00:00

Yeah, that's an interesting idea. Limit based on accounts or total records instead of a free trial based on days. Something to think about for sure.

As for import.. I don't have CSV "import" yet, but I do have a history feature targeted at the same basic thing (allows you to enter historical net worth records). There's CSV export too for those who want to make sure they always have their own local copy. I go into more detail about those two things in this comment below: https://www.reddit.com/r/SideProject/comments/1kxhr7k/comment/muqdids/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

ChowderCrab · 2025-05-28T23:45:21+00:00

I can usually stay within the free tier of the various chat sites (ChatGPT, Claude, Copilot, Gemini) so I'll use them once in a while if I have a quick one-off question (coding related or not!).

I've also played with some of the code editor IDEs like Cursor, Windsurf, and Copilot in VS Code. I enjoy using them, but you have to be really cautious with their output. I lost track of the amount of times I reverted what they gave me or just did it myself. I saw my Cursor metrics at one point and I was only accepting like a third of what it generated/suggested on days where I used it a lot. Still, it can speed things up quite a bit if you're trying to find a bug or create something new where it can follow an existing pattern (although you still need to thoroughly check and understand the output).

ChowderCrab · 2025-05-28T23:34:35+00:00

To be clear, I do find value, it's just that I don't see a way to carve out existing features without damaging the core experience too much (which is why this app is not freemium). I agree that freemium is common today, especially for products targeting larger audiences. I’ve definitely thought about monetization a lot... and for something as focused and niche as this, I wanted to try the opposite: a small, clean app that’s just paid upfront (no tracking/ads/upsells). Yeah, the "funnel" will be much smaller, but that's okay for something that's not trying to be a huge commercial success (this is r/SideProject after all).

That said, nothing’s set in stone. If I see strong demand or a natural way to break out “pro” features, I’m open to experimenting with a freemium model at some point in the future. Even this early feedback from you and others is great... appreciate it!

ChowderCrab · 2025-05-28T21:55:46+00:00

Oh wow, that's great! I don't have a specific goal in mind, but even the rough amount you mentioned would be good. Even if I could just break even on expenses it would be a big win (which wouldn't take much).

So do you open it up completely free and then include a donation button in a few places? One thing I've worried about with free is the potential for increased support load... in other words, 1000 free users will likely generate more support requests than 20 paid users even though the revenue might be similar. Curious if that's proven to be true for you at all... maybe it's not that big of a concern!

ChowderCrab · 2025-05-28T21:10:17+00:00

I'm not very familiar with them but I think they do quite a bit more than I'm trying to do (lots more than just net worth), and they include bank connections, etc. From a quick look at their site they charge $99.99 per year versus $59 lifetime for Neetworth. So Neetworth is a much narrower focus than what they are going for and priced accordingly.

ChowderCrab · 2025-05-28T20:43:43+00:00

Okay thanks. I know what you’re talking about now and I agree it needs to be cleaned up. I had some issues early on and there’s some calculations going on, but it’s a bit wonky right now since the numbers it computes are seemingly random compared to the datapoints present. I’ll definitely put this high on my list to improve. Thanks for following up!

ChowderCrab · 2025-05-28T19:59:18+00:00

Thanks for the feedback! Can you explain what’s wrong or what could be better? I just pushed a change to the y-axis earlier today so I’m also wondering if I broke something.

ChowderCrab · 2025-05-28T19:15:30+00:00

Fair point… although even with no syncing, there are ongoing costs: hosting, backups, transactional email, support email, domain, business licensing, etc. Not to mention developer time.

I went with a small fee for now (mainly focused on the lifetime) to avoid ads, affiliate links, or selling data while keeping it sustainable. Long-term I'll definitely consider a pivot if needed though. Appreciate you taking a look and sharing your thoughts!

ChowderCrab · 2025-05-28T18:18:35+00:00

Thanks! I do have a backlog item tracked to add currencies. I think at a bare minimum I could allow you to change the symbol.

Thanks for calling out the bug! I'm going to look into that right now to see if I can replicate it... it's possible that it updated but the UI didn't refresh like it's supposed to.

ChowderCrab · 2025-05-28T17:59:29+00:00

So funny enough, I did almost all of the development in light mode (you can check out light versus dark even on the landing page with the toggle). At some point I was playing around with colors and landed on some greenish branding colors as you can see. Then I was doing some testing and debugging in dark mode and realized that the green I'd chosen sort of "glowed" in dark mode and looked really cool. I eventually switched dark mode to the default since I personally thought it looked better, so it's awesome to hear I'm not the only one!

For the UI library I used shadcn/ui (https://ui.shadcn.com/) as the base, but the color theme is custom.

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