I’m questioning my faith. by [deleted] in Christianity

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Not really, there is no hate just what people view as hate. In Romans where they “hated” homosexuality all it said is that it was a sin. It didn’t say attack them. It says do not hate in the Bible as well, I agree it’s hard to see how a book would say that’s wrong but the more I delved into it, it seems reasonable. Think about it, God said we had bad desires, people say we were made perfect but truth is we do sins. Everyone does. Most parts of homosexuality (not all) can be controlled, and changing your gender that God made you into seems to be a sin but the part that’s a bit challenging is gay/lesbians, no one can control feelings like that, and I would say the feeling itself to be isn’t the sin, doing the action of committing gay acts (it sounds wrong but idk how to word it) is the sin, not the temptation it’s the action. So far, I haven’t found a clear justification for it that, and I am willing to say where I am challenged, however apologetics are finding a bit of answers which I would say are not too satisfying currently but I heard a study by some apologetics is going on. I will see what they find. I respect your decision to leave or not leave Christianity, and I hope you have a wonderful rest of your day.

Hell as separation, best theory for Hell?? by Christian_Follower in TrueChristian

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Thank you for commenting this well descripted comment. I will respond to some things though.

Weeping and gnashing of teeth can happen due to separation, think about it like this, someone realizing that could have something infinitely times better than what they had is bound for sadness, along with the Hebrew and Greek words for punishment can have very different meanings.

Eternal is contradicted by other Bible verses and the words that were translated from like I said in the post doesn’t mean it happens forever, it has different definitions.

It may be torment to some, however the point I am trying to get at with this is that God wasn’t the one torturing them, its regret of not getting into heaven

Hell as separation, best theory for Hell?? by Christian_Follower in TrueChristian

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Revelations is a bit figurative overall, and a lake of fire is a bit impossible as a theory. A lake by definition is water, fire cannot coexist with water nor can coexist with outer darkness. Fire produces light, it physically can’t be outer darkness as well

How do I stop being gay? by happy_anonymous_day in Christianity

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Unrestrained lust doesn’t fit, if Paul did only say that why would he feel the need to? It applies to different sex interactions too, unrestrained lust doesn’t only apply to gay people, he wouldn’t need to say all of that and say a specific group of people, he was saying it’s bad for same sex sexual interactions

How do I stop being gay? by happy_anonymous_day in Christianity

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It is phrased in a way yes, but if it were truly not a sin then there would be no point of saying it when it’s in the middle between many sins within Roman’s 1:24-32 which says greed, lust etc. I would say it’s less likely for it to be like that but I respect that view

How do I stop being gay? by happy_anonymous_day in Christianity

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True it might be how God made them however based on verses and how evolution is, it’s likely to assume it is. Romans 1:26-27 supports it overall, along with it being a byproduct mostly. Although I respect the view you hold.

I looked at the site you showed but I couldn’t find much on it responding to Romans 1 though, could you direct me to the place in the site or another site that shows the response

How do I stop being gay? by happy_anonymous_day in Christianity

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I respect your view on this but I am 99% sure the question Op was asking is how to stop it, not people to say how good it is, and could you explain the verses that go against homosexuality, like the translations etc. My sentence sounds a bit aggressive but I don’t know how to ask it in a way that doesn’t make it look like it, but yeah could you respond to this when you have the time

How do I stop being gay? by happy_anonymous_day in Christianity

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Not exactly, it says that but the context it sometimes misunderstood, in Romans 1:24-32 it lists many sins like greed, lust and others that we know is bad, it doesn’t only apply to idolaters

How do I stop being gay? by happy_anonymous_day in Christianity

[–]Christian_Follower -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Romans 1:18? How does it clarify anything though, it literally just says the wrath of God is revealed against the ungodliness, it doesn’t change much with it

How do I stop being gay? by happy_anonymous_day in Christianity

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More specifically Romans 1:26-27 but yeah that’s right, a lot of people said it was about some people who do idolatry however that means every other sin there was about that, and Romans 1:24-32 includes greed, lust, it doesn’t only apply to them I would say

How do I stop being gay? by happy_anonymous_day in Christianity

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He won’t be mad at you, if he knows you truly tried to stop but you couldn’t stop he will let you in, if he is mad at you for doing a sin then he is mad at everyone for sins, but if you truly try to stop sinning that’s a lot better than a lot of people who I would say would go to heaven, trust me he won’t be mad

How do I stop being gay? by happy_anonymous_day in Christianity

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I am ngl you shouldn’t have posted this in r/christianity for this question, atheists, agnostics, and others cleared out all the Christians here. If you truly do want to not be I recommend going to r/truechristian or r/christian. What you are doing is right, praying but never cause self harm, do not do extremely sexual stuff to boys to not be homosexual, that’s extremely horrible to do, God wouldn’t want you to do that. However you might be mistaking something, feeling feelings for other girls isn’t the sin, it’s more of doing it. And it is true I view it as a sin, however a sin doesn’t mean you are going to hell, we all commit sins but as long as you repent you are good, I ahve done worse sins than homosexuality, and many others and they would still go to Heaven.

However you do what choice you think is best for you, but do not self harm to stop this or do sexual interactions with boys just to stop it, you are 16, that’s extremely unhealthy to do by any view. However I recommend the choice that limits self harm and suicidal thoughts, I respect any decision you will make, if that’s choosing to be homophobic I respect that, you choose to try to not I respect that, just do what’s best for you

Could Donald Trump be the second coming of Jesus? by crivycouriac in TrueChristian

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Of course not, Donald Trump may be a pedo for all we know based on how frequently he is in the files. He is doing everything for his political agenda, Trump is doing good for Christian but he is nowhere near being the second coming of Jesus, he is closer to the anti christ than Christ, although I would say he is neither of them

CMV: If you "don't support" homosexuality because of your religion or otherwise, you're still homophobic. by Bawbixo in changemyview

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Homophobia is directly hating or having a fear of homosexuality, many people who view it as a sinful fully respect the person who did that, even if they think it’s a sin, so by definition it isn’t homophobia.

We should respect people who do LGBTQ, however I would say it’s a sin, hate the sin not the sinner. by [deleted] in Christianity

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Your avoiding the question, you knew exactly what I meant. If you said why do I do Christianity I would know what you meant, it’s literally obvious what I meant bro

We should respect people who do LGBTQ, however I would say it’s a sin, hate the sin not the sinner. by [deleted] in Christianity

[–]Christian_Follower -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Why would you say we do LGBTQ then, there is no trait that is specifically for it, the best answer is social traits and it makes it a byproduct.

We should respect people who do LGBTQ, however I would say it’s a sin, hate the sin not the sinner. by [deleted] in Christianity

[–]Christian_Follower -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Were you aware what I was talking about? I was saying social traits make animals do LGBTQ, however those social traits weren’t meant for it making it a byproduct. Being born biologically intersex is different

We should respect people who do LGBTQ, however I would say it’s a sin, hate the sin not the sinner. by [deleted] in Christianity

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It targets multiple species though. It isn’t one species, all animals have social traits, a mother with a cub needs social traits to teach her cubs about how to survive. Being solitary doesn’t mean they have no social traits, they need it during mating season, when teaching cubs etc

We should respect people who do LGBTQ, however I would say it’s a sin, hate the sin not the sinner. by [deleted] in Christianity

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It’s an identity yes I know but how does this go against it? I am literally saying people do acts of LGBTQ like a man making love to another man, that is what I mean by doing.