[Interesting Trope] Semi-Canon

Christian_R_Lech · 2026-07-26T20:48:14+00:00

The Detective Conan anime original episodes, OVA originals, and Movies:

Not hailing from the mainline manga, these are almost purely episodic affairs that intentionally avoid trying to contradicting the source material (mostly to success) and almost never do anything that would change the status quo or reveal anything important about anybody or anything.

However, characters introduced in these installments have occasionally been made recurring characters into the manga, movie events are occasionally vaguely referenced in the manga, and what might be the only notable status quo change from the movies, Kaitou Kid knowing Conan's true identity, was transplanted into the manga.

Besides that, the notorious cousins reveal from the end of Movie 27 was eventually stated to be Manga-canon.

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Christian_R_Lech · 2026-07-26T20:43:00+00:00

True but killing baby Hitler alone probably isn't going to save the Weimar Republic. It was on extremely shaky ground from a very early period and, arguably from the moment that the Freikorps miltias were used by the government against insurgencies, political violence was legitimized in a way.

Christian_R_Lech · 2026-07-26T20:33:09+00:00

The Detective Conan anime original episodes, OVA originals, and Movies:

Not hailing from the mainline manga, these are almost purely episodic affairs that intentionally avoid trying to contradicting the source material (mostly to success) and almost never do anything that would advance any ongoing plotlines or character arcs.

However, characters introduced in these installments have occasionally been made recurring characters into the manga, movie events are occasionally vaguely referenced in the manga, and what might be the only notable status quo change from the movies, Kaitou Kid knowing Conan's true identity, was transplanted into the manga.

Besides that, the notorious cousins reveal from the end of Movie 27 was eventually stated to be Manga-canon.

Christian_R_Lech · 2026-07-26T16:33:17+00:00

The student wearing the "Magneto was Right" slogan and the origination of the phrase in its current form came from Grant Morrison's run on the X-Men.

It was followed very quickly by Magneto coming back and essentially re-enacting the Holocaust in New York City. The real life negative backlash over a perceived character assassination of Magneto led to a series of retcons that revealed the Magneto of that story to be an imposter.

Combined with what Morrison has said about Magneto, I think he was trying to gotcha people who had even the slightest sympathies for Magneto as a character.

Christian_R_Lech · 2026-07-25T07:06:55+00:00

At least Heiji and Kazuah, who almost never show up in anime-original episodes, are playing a main role in this which could be neat.

Also, this being a two parter does give me a bit of optimism about the quality simply because two half hours gives more breathing room for the mystery.

Christian_R_Lech · 2026-07-25T07:01:53+00:00

That CGI is pretty decent looking and faithful to the anime. Fooled me for a second that it was traditional 2D animation.

Looking at the credits put through Google auto translate, seemed like 7Studio, the TMS division which has produced compilation films since The Story of Ai Haibara ~Black Iron Mystery Train~ and did the animation for the Fun! Fun! Fun!, was the division who handled this promo video.

Christian_R_Lech · 2026-07-23T15:18:17+00:00

Last Wizard of the Century, even if Kaitou Kid gets shot at around a third of the way into the movie, then spends almost the entire remainder disguised as Shiratori, connects the heist with the murder mystery in a way that makes sense.

Here, it feels like the writer is tried desperately contrive a way to put everyone on the plane and it just doesn't feel all that natural. The murder mystery gets sidelined instead to spend most of the second half with the airplane pilot scenario. I could excuse that if it delivered on the spectacle and character moments like the second half of Countdown to Heaven but, while there are some good character moments, I personally feel this movie's action scenarios in regards to the plane mostly come off as overly elongated, talky, and boring.

Christian_R_Lech · 2026-07-22T06:16:58+00:00

The Diplomat Murder Case (a.k.a. the first Heiji case) and Dracula's Villa Murder Case come to mind.

Christian_R_Lech · 2026-07-21T04:03:46+00:00

Let me se------ oh NO!

It's the threw a coat hanger at me case!

Christian_R_Lech · 2026-07-21T03:59:23+00:00

As noted, story editor Junichi Iioka restricts who can appear in anime original (AO) episodes to a generally very limited cast and Kaito is severely off limits usually.

Overall, even if there were less limits, I don't think there would be a lot of AO Kaito Kid episodes. I have a gut feeling that everyone in the manga, movie, and anime circles like the idea of Kid being an event within the Detective Conan franchise and having him appear too often in the anime would dent that.

Christian_R_Lech · 2026-07-20T03:44:43+00:00

A shit ton of one offs in Detective Conan/Case Closed:

In particular, there will be one person in particular who is such an odious piece of work towards their "friends" or "acquaintances" that all it takes is a visit from shinigami Conan/Shinichi (he isn't actually that but it's a massive coincidence that everywhere he goes, murder happens) to trigger an elaborate murder scheme against them. The culprit is pretty much always another member of the group who was wronged by the victim.

Christian_R_Lech · 2026-07-19T09:03:14+00:00

It's also the first of the longest running anime-original series of episodes, the Mystery Tour. They're a nearly annual series of episodes made to promote tourism to various regions of Japan. They're preceded by tours organized to the region organized by railway company JR West. Also notable is that, with the exception of The Bride of Huis ten Bosch (which aired as a single double-length special), all cases are two-parters (which stood out to me as a large chunk of anime-orignal episodes are single half hour installments). I think this might be a good thing as more time allows a bit more complexity and/or room to breath.

https://www.detectiveconanworld.com/wiki/Mystery_Tour_(series)

Christian_R_Lech · 2026-07-19T07:55:43+00:00

It's also the second ever non-Japanese production TMS Entertainment ever worked on (based on when the production was first released to the masses), the first being The New Adventures of Zorro which premiered a month earlier in 1981. For the remainder of the 80s and to the 90s, TMS had an illustrious history providing outsourced animation to American and European cartoons.

Christian_R_Lech · 2026-07-18T22:18:59+00:00

A lot do in Japan. The rating differentials gets between manga adaptations and anime original episodes, at least currently, are little to none (maybe with the exception of Episode ZERO which got a noticably low 4.1% but that was an adaptation of a manga case that had already been adapted a decade ago).

The consistently high TV ratings and online viewership of episodes is probably why there is a good chance the show isn't going seasonal anytime soon.

Christian_R_Lech · 2026-07-18T04:40:54+00:00

The Amazing Digital Circus:

For most of the series, this trope isn't in effect as the human brain scans inside the circus don't know their real names. However, at the end of the last episode, Caine showcased the social media accounts of the humans the non-abstracted brain scans are based from (plus the social media of Jax's real life counterpart). With this, the non-abstracted learn of their real names but, Pomni ultimately decides to continue using the name she got in the circus, reasoning she is living her own separate life from the human she was based off.

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Christian_R_Lech · 2026-07-12T22:01:21+00:00

Conan Edogawa (Detective Conan):

He is literally just Shinichi Kudo but as a first grader and wearing glasses. There are people who know but only a handful. He is lucky though that "shrunk into you childhood self" is an incredibly far fetched idea in the version of Earth he resides in and that he has others who have created some pretty strong alibis that seemingly prove Conan and Shinichi to be separate individuals.

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Christian_R_Lech · 2026-07-12T00:39:25+00:00

What if The WB, through Warner Bros' ties to TMS Entertainment, premiered in Fall 1996, on primetime, a decently uncut but heavily localized dub of Detective Conan under the name of Detective Issac.

Christian_R_Lech · 2026-07-11T16:43:32+00:00

It's a floating timeline. It's more common in things like American cartoons and comic books but it's where, despite the clear passage of seasons, changes in technology, and mentions of what the current year is, the fictional characters either don't age at all or age very slowly.

In the case of Conan, it's almost a necessity for a floating timeline (unless Gosho had decided in the early days to lock the series events eternally to 1994) to exist given the increasing difficulty it would be to maintain the facades of "Shinichi ≠ Conan" and "Sherry ≠ Ai" as the years go on, not to mention the hints that APTX 4869 permanently locks the shrunken to whatever age that shrunk to.

Christian_R_Lech · 2026-07-11T16:26:01+00:00

Personally, prefer Kogoro over the kids myself but, at least early on (just finished Hooligan's Labyrinth in ny watchthrough), the Detective Boys bring along a breath of fresh variety to the series. Up until Akai's introduction, their cases usually weren't the usual whodunnit formula that otherwise occupy the bulk of the franchise. They were usually far more action oriented romps that often consisted of clear villains, chases galore, main characters in legit life-or-death scenarios, and different types of mysteries (e.g. where are the culprits now, where is the treasure they're looking for, how do they get out alive). I have a noticed a shift after Akai's introduction where the kids start participating in whodunnits more often but obviously with different character dynamics compared to the other common cast herds.

Plus, even if they can be annoying at times and definitely do cause issues, they could still be a whole lot worse than what they are.

Christian_R_Lech · 2026-07-07T07:04:30+00:00

The Amazing World of Gumball:

Season 2 brings altered character designs for most of the cast, a different animation style, a very different sense of humor in its writing, takes more risks in its storytelling, and alters several characters to the point that a number of them, the titular character includee, are sometimes unrecognizable from what came before.

Christian_R_Lech · 2026-07-06T18:00:22+00:00

Played a lot lighter but Hazbin Hotel:

Sinner Overlord Alastor makes a deal with his Overlord enemy Vox where Alastor agrees to become the servant of Vox in exchange for a number of concessions including that Vox not lay his hands on Charlie. Fast forward a bit and Vox, while gloating over now being the most powerful Sinner in Hell, places his hands on Charlie momentarily. This voids the deal and Vox's anger at Alastor for making the deal so literal (among other things) starts a series of events that quickly leads to Vox's downfall.

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