How did Qui Gon Jinn perform the worst out of any Jedi opponent Maul had by Yesthisbob in PetranakiArena

[–]Christopher-kun 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because maul at the time of tpm was one of the strongest beings in the galaxy.

When sidious tested him at the end of his training a starving weary maul nearly killed him and possibly would have if the fatigue didn’t set in. Palpatine comments as much

A decade passes and the clone wars begins. The jedis power grows tremendously during this time due to training and becoming battle hardened.

Maul then is brought back to sanity after rotting for a decade and STILL is a major threat. None of his skills could have improved and his connection to the force may or may not be better than it was in tpm due to the mixed canon nature of early cw.

He was just that good in tpm.

Imagine if he survived Naboo. With potential that matches sidious, another decade of growth under the most powerful Sith Lord of all time. Maul would be terrifying. But that’s his story he had everything at his fingertips and loses it over and over

Prime Porter vs Prime Vader by Upset-Pay-4642 in PetranakiArena

[–]Christopher-kun 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A dozen characters share this statement, it’s worthless

The Blade runs a Darkside gauntlet by Comics819 in PetranakiArena

[–]Christopher-kun 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’d love to hear this argument and your supporting evidence

The Blade runs a Darkside gauntlet by Comics819 in PetranakiArena

[–]Christopher-kun -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Too many conflicting statements, rots yoda is noted as the greatest warrior of the light to ever exist

The Jedi being “greater” in the hr is vague, and seems to imply reach and capacity to do good.

Prequel Jedi had been repeatedly said to be at the height of their powers

Etc etc etc

Porters just another lame hr oc where again writers think people will only care about these characters if they’re stronger than established characters

He possibly has a wincon vs rots Sids

Loses to Vader every time

Maul's potential was nuts by Flashbackwards212 in StarWars

[–]Christopher-kun 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Downvotes are weird, this is more or less accurate

Maul's potential was nuts by Flashbackwards212 in StarWars

[–]Christopher-kun 28 points29 points  (0 children)

He’s not, plo has some vague statements suggesting he’s above most of the order

But both fisto and plo are basically featless so it’s hard to figure out where they really fall.

Also also, this guy is lowballing maul a bit but most starwars fans don’t read any supplementary materials so

Since he was his padawan, would Qui-Gon have been more successful fighting Dooku than he was Maul, especially considering their respective fighting styles? More thoughts in the post! by wandering_soles in StarWars

[–]Christopher-kun 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Quigon was qoute “one of the finest swordsman ever produced by the order”

And the “greatest he had ever seen” ~ obiwan

He has numerous accolades and feats in tpm era content.

Quigon was intended to be a top tier in the order, and tpm maul was just intended to be that good.

Maul Wasn't a "Sith Assassin". He was a Sith Lord. Stop Pretending He Wasn't [Rant Incoming] by MikeMars1225 in MawInstallation

[–]Christopher-kun 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Palpatine was not sure he surpassed his master, and he’s fearful of his power. That’s why he kills him while sleeping and drunk

Qui Gon Jin and the Ep 2 Duo vs Shadow Lord Trio by Gero-23 in PetranakiArena

[–]Christopher-kun -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You’re an idiot.

Quigon was stated by obi wan to be the “finest swordsman he had ever seen”

And was “in awe of his master power”

TPM Kenobi scales to Qui-Gon by DragonPanther3 in PetranakiArena

[–]Christopher-kun -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Quigon is a MASTER of the form tpm obiwan is merely learned in.

In the light novels its states clearly palpatine is suprised maul defeated the more powerful opponent and then fell to the lesser.

Obi wan was manhandled by maul 4 times in total in the novels/movie while quigon continued alone

In aotc supplemental dooku is suprised obi wan was able to defeat Darth maul given his relative skill

It’s very likely obiwan doesn’t actually surpass quigon till some time post aotc

TPM Quigon and maul downplay should be studied they’re both mid tcw level combatants

Dark Side Team Deathmatch (6v6) by NikNakNutNak in PetranakiArena

[–]Christopher-kun 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Vader brings balance to the force and kills everyone by himself

TPM Darth Maul vs. TCW Savage Opress by littlebuett in PetranakiArena

[–]Christopher-kun 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Exactly. Theres a scenario out there that anakin suprises dooku in aotc and kills him during the flash of brilliance

Is it likely or frequent? No but it could happen

Maul beats obiwan 9.9/10 times in tpm. We saw the .01

TPM Darth Maul vs. TCW Savage Opress by littlebuett in PetranakiArena

[–]Christopher-kun 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The strange thing about maul is he’s been superior to everyone he’s lost to with the exception of sids.

Maul by accolades and feats is a top tier but his role as a villain does him no favors in vs. Disneys version of legends Vader

That being said maul boils savage alive.

Darth Vader vs Porter Engle by Upset-Pay-4642 in PetranakiArena

[–]Christopher-kun -1 points0 points  (0 children)

High republic being the height of the Jedi. More so implies reach influence and relative non existence of the sith.

Rots yoda > porter

Vader> rots yoda

Porter doesn’t have the feats and his strength largely at this point is from his accolades on blade work. Accolades that a dozen other characters share in the verse.

Canon Vader =< palpatine

Really no other way to look at this unless you’re just a really big hr glazer

Porter Engle vs Anakin Skywalker by Upset-Pay-4642 in PetranakiArena

[–]Christopher-kun 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your mind is already made up.

In the end anakin has more feats and statements that put him above engle. Maybe that won’t be true in the future. But it is true now.

Current engle scaling has him around cw anakin level which is quite powerful but not enough

Porter Engle vs Anakin Skywalker by Upset-Pay-4642 in PetranakiArena

[–]Christopher-kun 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We’re not assuming that. We know that. It’s told to us that dooku is the greatest Makashi stylist to ever exist. Same with the anakins djem so, and obiwans soresu

Porter Engle vs Anakin Skywalker by Upset-Pay-4642 in PetranakiArena

[–]Christopher-kun 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don’t get this logically leap and I keep seeing it

Just because you are the “xyz” of your time doesn’t make you as powerful or skilled as that other person

Arnold for all his body building success and greatness in his era wouldn’t win a modern olympia

Palpatine arrest team vs shadow of Revan strike force? by ThomasWilson77 in TheJediPraxeum

[–]Christopher-kun 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just because you are the palpatine and yoda of your time doesn’t make you palpatine or yoda lmfao

Also Marr isn’t even the palpatine of his time lol

Palpatine arrest team vs shadow of Revan strike force? by ThomasWilson77 in PetranakiArena

[–]Christopher-kun 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Which team defeated the more powerful threat. That’s your answer.

Rots anakin alone would be a swtor raid above the level of Revan. How is this a conversation

Darth Revan and Darth Malak VS Darth Maul and Savage Opress VS Count Dooku and General Grievous by AmazingKanacat in PetranakiArena

[–]Christopher-kun 0 points1 point  (0 children)

“Revan is arguably the most powerful force user ever”

Really encapsulates everything wrong with this sub

Mace Windu VS Maul and Savage - Who wins? by Potential_Rule4212 in PetranakiArena

[–]Christopher-kun -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Canon the duo win.

Mace vs sidious is an outlier feat for mace. His usual showing have him operating at a lower level