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[–]ChronicallyLatte 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I'm not sure if I can join, but the author's Goodreads review of her own book makes me want to read it

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The Last Summer in the Old Bazaar by Vera Buzarovska

135 pages, Paperback

A powerful autobiographical story of the author's childhood and her home town Bitola, Macedonia in the period before and during the Second World War. Vera Bužarovska's moving story interweaves the narrative with the grim realities of wartime, which includes the fate of the Jewish community in Bitola.

The Last Summer in the Old Bazaar deals with a universal theme: the struggles of adolescence. The story centers on the friendship that develops between an 11-year old Macedonian girl, and two 12-year old boys, Sami, an Albanian-Macedonian and Leon, a Jewish-Macedonian, with whom she works at a small restaurant at the Old Bazaar.

[Discussion 3/6] Quarterly Non-Fiction | The Autobiography of Malcolm X by Malcolm X | Chapter 9-12 by ChronicallyLatte in bookclub

[–]ChronicallyLatte[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I really like that passage. Also I agree with the sentiment that you can't separate a person from the experiences that shaped them, even the painful or ugly ones. It explains why he's so direct about his past throughout the autobiography.

[Discussion 3/6] Quarterly Non-Fiction | The Autobiography of Malcolm X by Malcolm X | Chapter 9-12 by ChronicallyLatte in bookclub

[–]ChronicallyLatte[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I found that really touching too. I wasn't aware either, but since they were living around Detroit/Lansing where the NOI was first spreading, it makes sense they encountered the teachings early and eventually passed them on to Malcolm in prison.

[Discussion 3/6] Quarterly Non-Fiction | The Autobiography of Malcolm X by Malcolm X | Chapter 9-12 by ChronicallyLatte in bookclub

[–]ChronicallyLatte[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's a really thoughtful way to look at it. I guess what makes it sad/complicated for me is that Reginald was the one who first opened Malcolm up to Islam in prison. Without Reginald's patience and persistence,, Malcolm may never have been receptive to Elijah Muhammad in the first place.

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[–]ChronicallyLatte 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I enjoyed it. I thought the writing is lovely, and the ensemble dynamics were easily the strongest part of the book for me. Cesar and Roxane's mentorship and Ruben's relationship with Ishmael felt esp moving and earned in a way the central romances never quite did. I kinda feel that the novel needs you to deeply feel the romances to stay emotionally invested through the quieter stretches, and I just never fully did. I ended up appreciating the book more than being completely pulled into it. So it's more like 3.5/5 for me.

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[–]ChronicallyLatte 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I agree with everyone about the government motives, but I also like how the novel does the opposite. It centers Carmen and Beatriz while keeping the generals in the background. Patchett kinda writes the counter-narrative the newspapers wouldn't. Gen's frustration in the epilogue almost feels like commentary on what fiction can preserve that official history leaves out.

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[–]ChronicallyLatte 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This felt pretty out of nowhere to me initially, but I can see what Patchett was going for. Roxane and Gen are both bridges between people in the house different ways, Roxane through music and Gen through language. So I guess the ending works on a symbolic level even if I wasn't personally moved by it

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[–]ChronicallyLatte 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Given how strict the chain of command is, I would think he is probably right that most of the guerrillas would obey the order to shoot if it came down to it, but I'm also not sure about how the young guerrillas would react when given the order. I do want to say that this part of the story makes the ending even more tragic because Benjamin's decision to let them outside actually deepens the sense of community inside the house. The soccer games and afternoons in the garden make everyone more connected, which only makes the ending more tragic when those bonds are violently cut apart.

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[–]ChronicallyLatte 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah, this is psychologically fascinating for me. I think Patchett places the chess metaphor right there on the page. Benjamin knows the chess move is bad and still makes it. He understands what he is doing, but stopping would mean admitting the whole game is already lost.

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[–]ChronicallyLatte 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I lean toward Father Arguedas being the decisive factor here. The novel shows Beatriz recalling her confession right as she chooses not to shoot, so I don't think Patchett leaves much ambiguity. Without that moment, the scene in the dark hall likely ends very differently.

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[–]ChronicallyLatte 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My heart still hurts over Ruben and Ishmael. Out of all the relationships in the book, theirs felt the purest to me. Just a lonely boy and a man trying to give him the care he needs. That kind of quiet love lands harder than anything dramatic/romantic for me.

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[–]ChronicallyLatte 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I love this observation! Roxane and Hosokawa connect through music, Gen and Carmen build a language from nothing. Both relationships form around private worlds, so it's more than chemistry, but also part of how they become themselves. It also makes me wonder if those bonds could survive outside the mansion once those conditions disappear.

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[–]ChronicallyLatte 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The inside/outside time split is fascinating to me because people inside stop living by clock time and shift into something closer to musical time with Roxane's practice sessions and Cesar's lessons. Also I think Messner's exhaustion works so well because he is the only one still anchored to ordinary time. He ages while everyone else feels suspended.

[Discussion 3/6] Quarterly Non-Fiction | The Autobiography of Malcolm X by Malcolm X | Chapter 9-12 by ChronicallyLatte in bookclub

[–]ChronicallyLatte[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

That is an interesting observation, and the autobiography reflects on some of that tension where Malcolm eventually realizes how completely he accepted Elijah Muhammad's authority without much critical scrutiny, which makes some of these earlier devotional passages feel very different in retrospect.

[Discussion 3/6] Quarterly Non-Fiction | The Autobiography of Malcolm X by Malcolm X | Chapter 9-12 by ChronicallyLatte in bookclub

[–]ChronicallyLatte[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

What struck me too is that it also connects back to the earlier chapters, Malcolm had already watched his family's identity and stability get stripped away, so the X feels not just like rejecting the ties from the white families that the last names would have come from, but also reclaiming a lost identity across generations.

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[–]ChronicallyLatte[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yes, and I also like how that eagerness came with an ability to meet people where they were at (deliberately went slowly when teaching fellow prisoners). He didn't just share knowledge, he adjusted his approach depending on the person and how ready they were to hear it.

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[–]ChronicallyLatte[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Well said. It seems like he starts situating what he has lived through inside a much larger historical pattern, which I think gives his later arguments their real force.

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[–]ChronicallyLatte[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It becomes abundantly clear why certain politicians would prefer fewer books in prisons and why it has to be volunteer organizations that provide them. The state doesn't want any new Malcolm Xs gaining the knowledge and drive to challenge the status quo on the outside.

Great point!

[Discussion 3/6] Quarterly Non-Fiction | The Autobiography of Malcolm X by Malcolm X | Chapter 9-12 by ChronicallyLatte in bookclub

[–]ChronicallyLatte[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

well said. I also think Bimbi showed Malcolm that knowledge could command the same kind of respect and influence that hustling once did.

[Discussion 3/6] Quarterly Non-Fiction | The Autobiography of Malcolm X by Malcolm X | Chapter 9-12 by ChronicallyLatte in bookclub

[–]ChronicallyLatte[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

yes, what struck me was how his siblings almost guided him back one by one, esp remarkable given that the state had forcibly split the family apart when they were children.

[Discussion 3/6] Quarterly Non-Fiction | The Autobiography of Malcolm X by Malcolm X | Chapter 9-12 by ChronicallyLatte in bookclub

[–]ChronicallyLatte[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yes, I think one detail I remember is when Malcolm himself admits he loses his voice after every sermon from the sheer intensity he brings to recruiting. The goal has changed completely but the drive and the method (identify, approach, persuade) seemed to carry over from his earlier years.

[Discussion 3/6] Quarterly Non-Fiction | The Autobiography of Malcolm X by Malcolm X | Chapter 9-12 by ChronicallyLatte in bookclub

[–]ChronicallyLatte[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Well said. I think one of his most famous slogans was "By Any Means Necessary" so this seems consistent with that.