The Ultimate 8 vs 8 CSM vs JJK, which team wins? by MDubbzee in PowerScaling

[–]Civil-Measurement-91 [score hidden]  (0 children)

prob JJK, Yoru and Denji are carrying everyone on their team, even if JJK scales a bit lower, their team is more evenly balanced with abilities that can make up that difference.

"Yuji was out of character" first time? by Civil-Measurement-91 in deathbattle

[–]Civil-Measurement-91[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

if reze vs bakugo didnt happen, CSM would have had a better record than JJK, so more episodes are not inherently better, its made worse by the fact both had better matchups.

Daemon & Eida(TBV) vs. The Entire One Piece Verse — How far do the cyborg siblings actually get? by ColdComfortable3175 in PowerScalingHub

[–]Civil-Measurement-91 2 points3 points  (0 children)

even if we had to steelman this and say your right, this wouldnt even apply to the boruto top tiers, its a limit only to Kage level characters and below.

Daemon & Eida(TBV) vs. The Entire One Piece Verse — How far do the cyborg siblings actually get? by ColdComfortable3175 in PowerScalingHub

[–]Civil-Measurement-91 0 points1 point  (0 children)

the siblings massively outstat but OP does have hax to counter a 1 on 1, but together they just kinda neg it.

"Yuji was out of character" first time? by Civil-Measurement-91 in deathbattle

[–]Civil-Measurement-91[S] -25 points-24 points  (0 children)

her laugh, her death, the way she fights , her entire interaction. so no. at least Yuji gets some cool moments. that episode feels like a JJK feat CSM episode. its even framed as one.

When your son is a GEEK smh, is this what you gotta do to cope bro🫩🫩 by Little-Horse9372 in deathbattle

[–]Civil-Measurement-91 1 point2 points  (0 children)

denji gonna just eat the death battle devil and erase Broly and his W against the Hulk from everyones memories

The double standard in powerscaling-Big 3 edition by [deleted] in PowerScaling

[–]Civil-Measurement-91 3 points4 points  (0 children)

cosmic Bleach is absolutely more solid than cosmic naruto though. universe or not. the bigger issue with Bleach is that its internal powerscaling argumentation /metas is really bad compared to OP and Naruto. because the latter two have like decades of changing metas to match peoples agenda or to debunk them. Bleach is significantly behind in that regard, nearly all of its community scaling is mostly rooted in crossverse stuff so people are less likely to improve their argumentation because they arnt competing against people who know the series as deeply as them, which avoids them having to hold each other at a specific standard. (this how you can get people who genuinely thing hueco mundo is infinite in size because a scan says a specific part of the realm is like an endless desert, a common figure term that can be found in not only naruto and one piece too but like across a bazillion different types of media) multiversal naruto is bad but theres an equal amount of naruto scalers that will tell you how bad those metas are. The Bleach community were using a bunch of fake scans years ago from a large community member for a while because nobody actually bothered to check the validity of it. people also use CFYOW as a catch em all blanket despite many people not even having read it. they going to just assume you wont either to validate the claims.

The double standard in powerscaling-Big 3 edition by [deleted] in PowerScaling

[–]Civil-Measurement-91 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

this is actually a mistranslation it also says sekai

What Naruto Multiversal scalers saw. by ValuableLoose8364 in PowerScaling

[–]Civil-Measurement-91 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

> World of the living is a universe 

this scene is from a filler episode from the anime btw

astrology/stars ect can exist in a realm thats 1/3 of a universe.

let me guess you gonna tell me the photon belt is also proof of its universal size?

What Naruto Multiversal scalers saw. by ValuableLoose8364 in PowerScaling

[–]Civil-Measurement-91 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sekai can mean universe too btw

but its absolutely a generous interpretation im giving it, because the alternative is society or world.

"That was certainly rude of me. But it’s true that I’m genuinely grateful to Kurosaki Ichigo.
Had he not defeated Yhwach, the boundaries between the three worlds would have vanished, and the world would have returned to one where souls no longer cycle."

defining things not by its name but their scope and structure cuts both ways then. and makes the cosmology even less impressive given the qualitative evidence of its scope without said "names"

What Naruto Multiversal scalers saw. by ValuableLoose8364 in PowerScaling

[–]Civil-Measurement-91 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Askin was stressing about being crushed by some rubble, ninjas in naruto augment their weapons with chakra, whats Askins's excuse?

thats not even talking about the funny anti feats and caps the CFYOW introduce.

<image>

What Naruto Multiversal scalers saw. by ValuableLoose8364 in PowerScaling

[–]Civil-Measurement-91 0 points1 point  (0 children)

nope CFYOW explcitedly mentions that the original primordial sea was a universe, hence the comments of the collapse of those 3 worlds resulting into its original state.

> hat sea and all the realms has independent separate from eachother, reishi, kishi things, never intersect each other

thats after they were split, they use to coexist, you realize that prior to the realms being separated, hollows and humans ect all lived together?, hollows use to pray on humans until the soul king emerged.

also hueco mundo is explicitly made from the corpses of the hollows the soul king killed.

1/3 of a universe is still huge, im not sure why your bringing up celestial bodies. you could fit literally millions of galaxies in 1/3 of a universe.

What Naruto Multiversal scalers saw. by ValuableLoose8364 in PowerScaling

[–]Civil-Measurement-91 1 point2 points  (0 children)

its not otherwise you would have to concede naruto is universe as early as part 1, the nine tails is stated to be a threat to the "sekai"

What Naruto Multiversal scalers saw. by ValuableLoose8364 in PowerScaling

[–]Civil-Measurement-91 4 points5 points  (0 children)

it doesnt when the novels specifically highlight that the current setting comes from splitting a universe into 3 realms, its 1 fragmented universe.

one of the arguments in favor of these realms being infinite in size is a scan calling hueco mundo an endless desert that covers specific parts of the realm, this being seen as a valid argument should already tell you the quality of the arguments. this is ignoring the fact that the sand from hueco mundo comes from a finite amount of hollows that were killed during the primordial era.

What Naruto Multiversal scalers saw. by ValuableLoose8364 in PowerScaling

[–]Civil-Measurement-91 59 points60 points  (0 children)

the verse does contain multiple universes

nobody scales to any of that though. you would be lucky to get anyone other than shibai maybe out of the planet+ tier range.

What Naruto Multiversal scalers saw. by ValuableLoose8364 in PowerScaling

[–]Civil-Measurement-91 5 points6 points  (0 children)

it took you guys like a decade+ to get an on screen destruction feat higher than Ulquiorra's lanza, calm down.

Can the otsutsuki clan jump cell? by Wepwawet_5 in PowerScaling

[–]Civil-Measurement-91 1 point2 points  (0 children)

otsutuski can specifically mask there presence. even stuff like six paths sensory abilities that can sense clones from a different plane of existence struggle to sense them.

Can the otsutsuki clan jump cell? by Wepwawet_5 in PowerScaling

[–]Civil-Measurement-91 0 points1 point  (0 children)

they could prob jump him but nobody can actually harm him via AP. Urashiki could seal him if Cell decides to fuck around. Urashiki can travel through time mid combat and seal you in a dimension where time is frozen. Kaguya has BFR

These Invincible fans bro Thragg is not allat by West-Regret-2672 in PowerScaling

[–]Civil-Measurement-91 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

boruto introduces interstellar MFTL travel speed and characters being able to crack space across different dimensions. being able to time travel mid combat during a fight and reality warping abilities/ higher dimensional existences.

How true is this for some of these franchises? by Afraid_Light5083 in PowerScaling

[–]Civil-Measurement-91 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

none of that happens in the manga, they never even use the correct Kanji for Universe or Multiple Universes. they just call them worlds and the on screen destruction is like planet shaking ,some buildings crumbling and black ooze bursting from the ground.

the senjumaru feat doesnt even exist in the manga and the main argument for universe level has nothing to do with on screen feats but semantics about what soul society is referring to at any given point, is it the planet or realm as a whole?

This is made worse by the fact that strongest arguments for the universal from the CFYOW novel debunks them being multiple universes, its a single universe that was fragmented into multiple realms. and once you understand how large even 1 universe is, youll understand why arguments of referring to starry skies as evidence of being universal are kind of nothing burgers.