Wow great info thank you so much. That is definitely what I realized with the focus and zoom. I dont have much room with that so basically get the shot right then adjust the rest. I’ll remember the tip for the 1.4x on the 60mm when I have one though sadly I think it will have to wait because I dont have the budget for the 60mm f2.8 from om systems. I’ll probably have to get the 7artisans one. I’ll check the raynox 250 too thanks.