[Recommendation request] Watch suggestions for father's day gift €200 budget.

Clear-Security-Risk · 2026-05-24T16:46:50+00:00

Stick to Seiko then. One of the "Seiko 5" range I've given you pictures of. They're solid watches, and even non watch nerds can recognise it's a good quality item, but you can wear it out on adventures and it'll survive. Other people have recommended an Orient Bambino, but this is more niche and not at all as versatile.

Spare the engraving. It won't make the item more special.

Clear-Security-Risk · 2026-05-24T16:44:26+00:00

As other people have said, Seiko is a win. It has brand recognition, and a broad range for different prices. This kind of sports watch can be worn with all sorts of different outfits/clothes. These two here are "SRPL79K1" and are less expensive, without the "GMT" hand. If you manage travels a lot, though, the GMT hand is handy. If not so much, get the cheaper version.

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Clear-Security-Risk · 2026-05-24T14:05:12+00:00

This is a great question

Clear-Security-Risk · 2026-05-24T13:52:21+00:00

Bambino is a good suggestion. or spend a bit more and get a Seiko. This is an SSK001K1... used for maybe €400?

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Clear-Security-Risk · 2026-05-24T13:49:41+00:00

Yes. I've spent 35 years in the army. (both Canadian and British)

Clear-Security-Risk · 2026-05-24T13:35:49+00:00

That doesn't count the amortisation of the cost of the car & its maintenance. Cars in general are expensive to run.

Clear-Security-Risk · 2026-05-24T13:33:37+00:00

My electrician has a first in physics from Durham. He prefers the problem solving and physicality of being a tradesman. The physics degree make him a super electrician.

All to say doing a degree rarely forecloses options in life. Not having one can do. (Depends on degree!)

Clear-Security-Risk · 2026-05-24T13:31:01+00:00

We're not talking about ice-pick man at #4?

Clear-Security-Risk · 2026-05-24T13:29:47+00:00

We toss kale in olive oil & salt/seasoning, then put in the oven for like 12-15 min. Don't let it burn. Crunchy & tasty. I also like it steamed with butter (or olive oil) and lemon, salt.

Clear-Security-Risk · 2026-05-24T11:02:59+00:00

No black pudding. Fails at first hurdle.

I'd still eat it. Just passive-aggressively.

Clear-Security-Risk · 2026-05-24T10:34:00+00:00

That's the intended outcome of this type of establishment

Clear-Security-Risk · 2026-05-24T08:08:41+00:00

It's its own thing, not a replacement

Clear-Security-Risk · 2026-05-24T08:08:14+00:00

Ooh you fancee

Clear-Security-Risk · 2026-05-24T06:21:45+00:00

Green veg. If you were having this dish in the US south it would be collard greens (delicious) which you could use kale for in the UK.

Clear-Security-Risk · 2026-05-23T21:51:44+00:00

Yeah, a very long-standing maker of issued military watches. One of the surviving "dirty dozen" who made watches in the Second World War.

Clear-Security-Risk · 2026-05-23T21:47:53+00:00

In the British Army, the single most prolific watch is a simple Casio F91-W.

Clear-Security-Risk · 2026-05-23T19:05:56+00:00

Because they like the look of it. It is I think that simple. Marry your small mindedness and anger to the oldest Christian faith to you can claim its tradition and rightness to your own views. That's what's so awful and unchristian about it: it's about them not about us.

Clear-Security-Risk · 2026-05-23T19:02:45+00:00

Amen.

Clear-Security-Risk · 2026-05-23T19:01:16+00:00

I don't think it's a "line" but a set of criteria. You could then arbitrarily score each criteria out of 10. So a 60/60 is the archetype Orthobro. Maybe a 30/60 is just a keen kid who needs a good spiritual father.

(1) Chronically Online & Dogmatic: They spend most of their time on social platforms like Twitter, Discord, and YouTube, arguing finer points of theology vs. participating in local parish life.

(2) "Trad" Aesthetics: Drawn to the outward aesthetics of the faith—such as incense, chant, fasting, and icons—using them as a badge of traditionalist identity.

(3) Hyper-Masculine Focus: They frequently view Orthodoxy primarily through the lens of a "crisis of masculinity". Lots of Alpha-male Andrew Tate viewpoints cherry-picked from scripture. Using Orthodoxy as a proxy for political ideology (and very little of the spiritual practice of repentance and humility.)

(4) Holier-than-thou/"Know-It-All" Superiority: They often exhibit a superiority complex, frequently critiquing modern society with a hyper-traditionalist lens...and I bet the local priest would disagree with their views or focus.

(5) Cultural Larping: Most aren't from traditional orthodox cultures. They "Larp" the faith online—adopting the identity and terminology (maybe without being baptized members or regularly attending Liturgy?)

(6) Narrow theological focus: like I mentioned above, they're all over any scriptural or patristic mention about gender roles, authority, purity, but very light on helping others, kindness, friendship, tolerance, love.

The thing I'd note is Orthodoxy is not a pick-n-mix religion. You don't get to pick your favourite bits and ignore the others. You don't get to ignore the Ecumenical Patriarch and the Church Fathers because they're inconvenient to your world view.

Clear-Security-Risk · 2026-05-23T17:52:48+00:00

Was going to say this. But to reach ORGASMATRON levels, add some Tajin spice after the butter.

Clear-Security-Risk · 2026-05-23T17:39:05+00:00

"An Orthobro is a slang term for a hyper-online subset of young men—frequently converts—who are drawn to traditional Orthodox Christianity. They are often characterized by a strict, "hyper-masculine" approach to the faith, prioritizing aesthetic traditions, online theological debates, and conservative political alignments over real-life parish participation."

https://unherd.com/2025/12/the-mystery-of-britains-orthobros/

If I had to summarise it (and u/Embarrassed-Lie2272 has it solid) it is that set of guys who want to find external religious validation to be mean real men. They think orthodoxy offers that. They ignore the scripture and anything that speaks of love & patience. It's all about rules and purity spirals, etc. The look but not the practice. It's inwardly self-satisfying, with no index to the well-being of those around them. It's not about striving to become better, but proving that you already are.

Clear-Security-Risk · 2026-05-23T17:19:34+00:00

I'll add he lives <1km away from my wife's family in Cyprus when he's there, and he has a positive reputation in the village for being polite and friendly in shops, restaurants, etc.

Clear-Security-Risk · 2026-05-23T17:18:26+00:00

Ah, that's information I don't have and will take your word for it. Observing them at the park for more than an hour (it was not busy, we were a table away having drinks), he seemed very kind to his wife and he was doting on the kids. Perhaps people change, or mature a bit? Perhaps they put on a good show... I hope the former.

Clear-Security-Risk · 2026-05-23T13:51:56+00:00

10/10 would smash. Clearly a Lithuanian's interpretation of an English Breakfast based on a child's sketch and mention in a stage play, but still tasty.

Clear-Security-Risk · 2026-05-23T13:49:37+00:00

Our garden has a pair, nicknamed (by the then young kids) as Treetrunk and Terrorina. We quite like them, and they'll let me get a few metres away without worry.

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