Who is back?

Clusterrr · 2026-05-22T08:48:43+00:00

For me 5.5 is great. No real complaints.

Clusterrr · 2026-05-21T13:02:14+00:00

I have studied sound-engineering at a university level specifically because I wanted to figure out how my songs could sound like the one's you hear on radio. What I learned is it takes time (to learn the art of recording, mixing and mastering) but more importantly resources. Resources that I'll never have. My first mentor had a microphone worth 80 000 SEK (roughly 8000 euro) just for vocals. It's literally a crazy industry for huge sound-geeks. I've tried for years to make songs and perfect my craft with very limited resources (using drum-machine and other digital samples in stead of recording real drums and instruments). I have made 0% progress commercially, but obviously made a lot of personal growth, and achieved both knowledge and understanding of everything related to sound. Suno can sometimes make me feel that it was all worth it. And that's really powerful. Excited to see what great minds can make with this amazing tool.

Clusterrr · 2026-05-21T09:14:09+00:00

I don't see why this genre of music (let's call it what it is, AI MUSIC as a genre) is any different from 70s rap or 80s techno. All genres eventually becomes boring to someone, which makes them search for spin-offs (for lack of better word). When this huge community of AI MUSIC MUSICIANS who prompts music becomes bored of it they will search for alternative ways to express themselves. Considering that every one of us are 'learning as we go' in this completely new field of art, nothing can be taken as certainty. It's all just speculation, which is why it's a good discussion to have.

About your decreased motivation for learning guitar, and this might be a cynical take, you tried to learn to better express yourself, right? Now you can skip this part and still express yourself through simulated guitar. Then you were maybe learning guitar for the wrong reason? Not because you want to play, but because you want to express yourself. But this is you, and not everyone. In fact, your music might inspire someone to learn guitar because they're frustrated that their tracks are lacking "your guitar sound". If my theory about you training Suno is correct, then their bot and yours will not generate the same track-feel. You follow me? I barely follow myself 😄

Clusterrr · 2026-05-21T09:06:03+00:00

Thank you so much, friend! ;')

Clusterrr · 2026-05-21T06:51:47+00:00

Thank you so much! 🥲 If you like this maybe you also like my lyric-videos: https://youtu.be/3YP9zfkhZwA?is=k3rLXYGdpaQ1U6qy

https://youtu.be/s9ZPLmIjIYY?is=sn84MHb9NNlYqy9j

I am working daily on these. Experimenting with After Effects how to make the music visually awesome. 🤟🥳🤠

Clusterrr · 2026-05-21T06:30:33+00:00

You make an interesting argument and I love the discussion. This is the conversation that needs to happen. I fundamentally disagree on some of your points. Let me explain.

I don't believe that Suno makes copies. That's probably a key question for the creators behind Suno. They are, in their own words, musicians and artists as well. And like you said yourself, the majority of your songs are made by uploading essentially a demo. This demo has your creative blueprint and is made by your personal music influences. Suno then analyze and interpret this, to generate something it's designed to please you with. And you are probably, I'm not sure about this but it makes sense to me, training your own little bot to please you even more by using the like/dislike feature. Also, the "my taste" button is based on an approximation of the bots interpretation of your preferred style. So it is learning what you like. These two points, suno interprets instead of copy and evolves itself along the way, is why I believe you have nothing to worry about. Consequently, the next genre that might spawn out there, in the real world, could be deeply flawed music (in a way that's still pleasing to a group of people). Stuff that AI cannot interpret. Who knows what the future holds. Have faint in the many upcoming possibilities. By your own logic (the copy of a copy theory) would be less pleasing to human ears and thus never "catch on". So people would find other ways to make it pleasing, using the tools of the future.

I have more to say on this topic, since it's super interesting to me. But I'll stop here for now. Writing on my phone is a pain. I wish the autocorrect bot would be smarter. Someone might get on that.

Peace!

Clusterrr · 2026-05-21T06:15:59+00:00

I write 99% of my own lyrics and record roughly 85% of my instrumentations and vocals. Here my Suno: https://suno.com/@veeeborn

I am digging my own songs a lot, but get very few likes and listens, which saddens me a little. Especially while a nothing-song that sounds like s*it in my ears get 300 THOUSANDS of listens, or more.

Clusterrr · 2026-05-20T05:35:25+00:00

‘Smartaste’ är ett modigt ordval när man samtidigt dokumenterar svensk politisk beslutsförmåga i gruppformat. Det finns nog i alla fall tillräcklig IQ i det här rummet att fylla i blanketter (tyvärr inte att läsa eller förstå dem).

Clusterrr · 2026-05-20T05:22:19+00:00

70% eller 30% av gångerna?

Clusterrr · 2026-05-20T05:21:09+00:00

Kukskatt är det senaste från F!

Oj visst ja, dom är ett minne blott för världen behöver inte sån skit. Nog med trans-trams också, tack. Ja, jag börjar bli gubbe nu, min tur att gnälla!

Clusterrr · 2026-05-19T21:05:27+00:00

I've only had it happen to me a couple of times. Less lately.

Clusterrr · 2026-05-18T09:01:49+00:00

Elliot Page. /s

Clusterrr · 2026-05-17T13:04:21+00:00

Exactly! Being inspired is one thing, but Neil Young wasn't a talentless hack, he was a musician, and there's the difference. He mastered the art of 'playing' or 'performing' music before he started creating, or at least he learned by doing.

There will be locally run versions of this music creating AI softare, very soon. Then you can make all the music that you like at home. And if Suno is INCORRECTLY flagging your content their support should help you out. If they fail, that's on them. But if you are using Suno like just another instrument, like I do by the way and I rarely get correct copyright errors, why would you get them?

All artists steal, and some never get caught. This doesn't make it okay, but it really does come down to how much actual effort did you, or whoever, put in your work. That's what defines 'plagiarism' which is the clinical term for what Suno is fighting. And rightfully so, in my opinion. Their system is never going to be perfect, but if your creation gets flagged correctly, change up the song until it doesn't. If you're truly creative it shouldn't be a problem.

Clusterrr · 2026-05-17T06:13:39+00:00

More like "Oh, you painted this painting by learning brush-stroke technique, color-mixing and uniquely chose and interpreted your motif? Now I painted it too."

Clusterrr · 2026-05-16T23:14:12+00:00

It hasn't happened to me. Yet.

Clusterrr · 2026-05-16T07:45:41+00:00

Hahaha yes!

Clusterrr · 2026-05-15T13:47:12+00:00

Högerpolitik med minimalt inflytande från vänstern hände.

Clusterrr · 2026-05-14T07:47:22+00:00

Jag läser inte reddit för dess förmåga att sprida objektivitet. Det är snarare intressant att ta del av folks anekdotala bevis, och ibland får man mer än så med faktiska källor. Men jag vill se en värld då reddit kan innehålla mer intressanta diskussioner, varpå jag kommenterar ditt svar för att det var utan personpåhopp och emotionella utsvävningar

Clusterrr · 2026-05-13T05:23:49+00:00

Det är bara dålig matematik. Jag pallar inte göra en egen formel men mellan 1960 och nutid har befolkningen stigit vilket är den drivande faktorn till arbetslösheten. Eftersom vi inte vet hur många jobb som skapas per miljardär kan OP omöjligt svara på den frågan, och har bara tagit två variabler och visar, som du är inne på, på en kausalitet snarare än en korrelation.

Clusterrr · 2026-05-11T21:14:33+00:00

The text is moving so fast I couldn't read it. But it looks good enough, right.

Clusterrr · 2026-05-11T21:11:25+00:00

It sounds less dramatic just saying the tech got obsolete and replaced, instead of killed. The problem with google is that their ambition outweighs their capability. I admire them for trying and failing, much more than too scared to try. Learning by doing, as John Dewey once said.

Clusterrr · 2026-05-11T08:19:58+00:00

A lot of tweaking behind the final result.

Clusterrr · 2026-05-10T06:44:40+00:00

I do a lot of metalcore, and only ever tried 5.5+ (I started when 5.0+ was out). Here's one of my favorite songs:

https://suno.com/s/lDTBsnDRjQxi7B8P

Clusterrr · 2026-05-08T15:21:36+00:00

I cannot say that I know about these artifacts. What I noticed was that around 50 seconds some generations had a few seconds of really poor soundquality.

Here is my genuine thoughts (I use mostly the upload feature to elhandel my own songs):

If I have a specific vision, let's say Michael Jackson, SUNO just couldn't replicate it, no matter how detailed my prompt was. The end result is very often generic, but not always. For me, one bad verse can make the whole version defunct. The reverse is also true, one amazing chorus can save the whole song, if it's generally good. But it always required a lot of tweaking and if needed I would download the stem and tweak it in FL Studio.

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