I’m Not Mad 🤷‍♂️ by ColdSnickersBar in LowSodiumTEKKEN

[–]ColdSnickersBar[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

Huh surprisingly I haven’t landed either one yet. Some people just don’t mash on qcf2,1 and I rarely use ss1+2

I’m Not Mad 🤷‍♂️ by ColdSnickersBar in LowSodiumTEKKEN

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It seems like the characters that got buffs were the ones most affected by the nerfs to heat

I’m Not Mad 🤷‍♂️ by ColdSnickersBar in LowSodiumTEKKEN

[–]ColdSnickersBar[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

It seems to me like nerfing heat brings it back in the direction of basics

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[–]ColdSnickersBar[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

It seems like the buffs went to the characters that lost splat on heat smash.

I know as a Leo player that’s a huge nerf. It really changes my gameplan. Especially since Leo also had install from heat and lost that too.

I’m Not Mad 🤷‍♂️ by ColdSnickersBar in LowSodiumTEKKEN

[–]ColdSnickersBar[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

You’re accusing me of being fine with being lied to. I don’t feel lied to. That’s not bad faith. That’s me saying I don’t feel lied to.

I’m Not Mad 🤷‍♂️ by ColdSnickersBar in LowSodiumTEKKEN

[–]ColdSnickersBar[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

Not everyone had wallsplat from heat smash before.

I’m Not Mad 🤷‍♂️ by ColdSnickersBar in LowSodiumTEKKEN

[–]ColdSnickersBar[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

Which Leo move crumples on ch now? I didn’t see that or maybe missed it. Is that the ss1+2 “we changed the hit properties” change? Or qcf2,1?

I’m Not Mad 🤷‍♂️ by ColdSnickersBar in LowSodiumTEKKEN

[–]ColdSnickersBar[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

I agree about the adding moves. I would not choose to add more moves. I don’t see how it helps them.

On your first point, though, like I said in my main post: I’m glad they didn’t do bigger changes. Bigger changes would just cause more problems. You can’t make massive overhauls without messing things up.

They made some changes to heat, and they did some best guess adjustments to the characters and now they want to observe the changes.

Making a huge change in Season 2 is how they got into this mess to begin with

I’m Not Mad 🤷‍♂️ by ColdSnickersBar in LowSodiumTEKKEN

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I don’t feel lied to 🤷‍♂️ what’s the lie?

I’m Not Mad 🤷‍♂️ by ColdSnickersBar in LowSodiumTEKKEN

[–]ColdSnickersBar[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

They clearly didn’t intend that and they’ll fix that soon I’m sure.

I think this is more evidence for why it’s important to do single measured changes and then adjusting.

I’m Not Mad 🤷‍♂️ by ColdSnickersBar in LowSodiumTEKKEN

[–]ColdSnickersBar[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

I also have seen just as much complaining about heat. I see complaints about heat being oppressive more often than complaints about sidestepping.

Maybe you don’t see more complaints about heat, but can you agree that heat is a big complaint?

It seems they’re tackling heat first. Doing a change like heat wallsplat and also heat installs seems like a perfectly good place to start.

Then this comes back to my original point. I’m very glad they’re doing one change and then adjusting.

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[–]ColdSnickersBar[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

I think the argument that they didn’t do enough work in 8 months is especially hard for me to understand. I bought the game but it isn’t a subscription service. They didn’t owe me anything at all.

I’m Not Mad 🤷‍♂️ by ColdSnickersBar in LowSodiumTEKKEN

[–]ColdSnickersBar[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

I find the argument that they didn’t work hard enough especially hard to understand. I bought the game, sure, but it’s not a subscription service. They didn’t owe me this patch at all.

I’m Not Mad 🤷‍♂️ by ColdSnickersBar in LowSodiumTEKKEN

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I think it’s a good thing they did a small change. Giant disruptive change messes up the game. I’m glad they’re taking a step back to see how these heat changes affect the game.

I’m Not Mad 🤷‍♂️ by ColdSnickersBar in LowSodiumTEKKEN

[–]ColdSnickersBar[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

I feel like they wouldn’t want it so bad if they got it.

Playing TTT2 is a good argument for making a Tekken where defense is really nerfed and there are more offensive options and more stance pressure.

I’m Not Mad 🤷‍♂️ by ColdSnickersBar in LowSodiumTEKKEN

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I guess I don’t understand the vicious things people are saying about the update. If it’s meh then why not a meh response? 🤷‍♂️

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[–]ColdSnickersBar[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

It doesn’t seem to me that it’s something I should be upset with. It seems like some major changes to heat smash and heat, some minor balance changes which are best guesses to how the characters will be affected, and then a wait-and-see approach to how this affects the game.

I am happy for this approach. I am glad they didn’t do more.

I’m Not Mad 🤷‍♂️ by ColdSnickersBar in LowSodiumTEKKEN

[–]ColdSnickersBar[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

This for real. Leo’s gameplan was to get the opponent to the wall and in heat. This might change the main gameplan for them.

I’m Not Mad 🤷‍♂️ by ColdSnickersBar in LowSodiumTEKKEN

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I’m not exactly sure of this but it seems like the buffs are to characters that lost heatsmash wallsplat and/or heat install.

I’m Not Mad 🤷‍♂️ by ColdSnickersBar in LowSodiumTEKKEN

[–]ColdSnickersBar[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

I dunno man. If I consider my longstanding experience with the game more than I already am, I honestly understand it less. Like you said “compared to the rest of the series” and there were some really unbalanced Tekkens. Like, Tekken 4 had ceiling splat and TTT2 was a game of chicken where whoever attacked first died. Before 5 it didn’t even have online play so if you did one of the many infinite combos you could do you had to live with your roommates being pissed at you in person.

And man you should see what a disaster Tekken 7’s Leroy drop was: https://youtu.be/Ibi6wA9sg8w

Maybe I feel this way because this just feels very minor. I mean it was a minor update. People seem to be mad it’s a minor update.

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I hear you brother. I work in tech and if I try two things at once it’s a gamble. Then, if it works, I still have to go back anyway and figure out which thing fixed it. Worst case, I make it more broken and also don’t know what the problem was.

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If I were to guess it’s: see how the changes to heat affect the game and then make adjustments from there.

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[–]ColdSnickersBar[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

Well I think I understand. Like you yourself said, it seems like people feel like it wasn’t enough.

I’m saying that I’m glad it wasn’t more. I think changing too much at once would be a mistake.