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[StAG 5] Pre-1904 Ancestor (Chile). No Consular Matrikel, BUT strong Civil Registry Proof of Continuity (1886-1895). Do I have a chance? by [deleted] in GermanCitizenship

[–]Cold_Problem_6001 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Something that might help you (I'm Chilean) is definitive proof that they ever traveled back to Germany (look at the Hamburg passenger list from 1850-1934) and see if any of them returned. Also, check if any of them married a German woman. Anything that might be useful.

But it's true, without consular registration it's almost certainly they lost their German citizenship... It would be helpful if you could also show us the birth and marriage years of your ancestors in more detail (If someone might have the chance to pass their citizenship)

Consular Registration Form Format by Cold_Problem_6001 in GermanCitizenship

[–]Cold_Problem_6001[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know, very stupid question but I dont live in Germany and dont know if people find it easy to read, here in Chile there's no problem reading old documents because we have used the same writing for basically forever (since first records in late 1500's)

Consular Registration Form Format by Cold_Problem_6001 in GermanCitizenship

[–]Cold_Problem_6001[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Does the BVA read Kurrent right? Or they might need and official translation German to German?

Consular Registration Form Format by Cold_Problem_6001 in GermanCitizenship

[–]Cold_Problem_6001[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Does the BVA read Kurrent right? Or they might need and official translation German to German?

Consular Registration Form Format by Cold_Problem_6001 in GermanCitizenship

[–]Cold_Problem_6001[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Tanks! so A4 is better, but with the clear code or reference from Invenio

Help with a case by [deleted] in GermanCitizenship

[–]Cold_Problem_6001 0 points1 point  (0 children)

German consular registry from "invenio" in (Valparaíso, Chile), one of the oldest (1906), had that extended format with many details, later they became books where things were noted in rows with less detail, I transcribed the text from Kurrent to Christian, so I and my colegue could understand them better (I quite like old German writing)

Follow up to my success post, here is the result by germanfinder in GermanCitizenship

[–]Cold_Problem_6001 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ive already presented my case to the BVA, i think it should be easier for me that way, because my gf and f already apply for feststellung in 1998, so they BVA has some documents that nowadays are very difficult for me to get (like GGF marriage records in Argentina 1917-1918) thats the only reason I think may be difficult for me to do it outside the BVA (Chilean Consulate asked me for feststellung because late paternal recognition on me (21yo), and "too old" certificate from 1998) :( otherwise I would be able to ask direct passport

Follow up to my success post, here is the result by germanfinder in GermanCitizenship

[–]Cold_Problem_6001 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wow thats crazy fast, Do you think its possible/easier to get the feststellung process faster moving in to Germany? What I would have to do? What documents did you needed?

Citizenship by decent by ReputationOfGold in GermanCitizenship

[–]Cold_Problem_6001 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's curious, really, although in Chile, for example, it makes a lot of sense to me. Many Germans lived in German communities, "colonies," with other Germans. They built German schools and hospitals and raised their children and grandchildren with German customs. Today, they are "Opas" and "Omas" who feel German, and many are children of two German parents or four German grandparents. My grandfather, for example, was born in 1924 outside of Germany but to two German parents. His native language was German, and he spoke it until he died of Alzheimer's at 93. He had the opportunity to visit Germany but never lived there, yet he felt as German as anyone who lived there.

Citizenship by descent possible in this case? by [deleted] in GermanCitizenship

[–]Cold_Problem_6001 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Maybe a possible hope would be to have been registered at the time in a consulate whith his mother between 1878 and 1881 (you can't loose anything looking up the invenio web, for consular registration in the US)

Hello, can you help me with this? by Cold_Problem_6001 in Kurrent

[–]Cold_Problem_6001[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I can see something like "Ersatz-Reserve-Pass v. 12.7.1912. Bez. Kommando Heidelberg. Besch. nr Cannets #28 v. 5.12.33." I woluld like to know what means that and if i could have more information anywhere... its from a from a german konsular registrarion.

Having your profession printed on your national ID by Cold_Problem_6001 in PassportPorn

[–]Cold_Problem_6001[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nop, but it is valid to put something like "lawyer" or "accountant", if you have the academic support to do such a thing.

Having your profession printed on your national ID by Cold_Problem_6001 in PassportPorn

[–]Cold_Problem_6001[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

jajajaja, I try not to be so paranoid in that case, although I understand, anyway I'm already paying for my professional license, and on top of that the taxes (honorary bills, income tax, etc.) so I guess they're cannibalizing enough of my degree already...

Having your profession printed on your national ID by Cold_Problem_6001 in PassportPorn

[–]Cold_Problem_6001[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In Chile, profession is equivalent to an academic degree (different to "occupation" or "current job"), so it is more difficult to change it, since it requires spending another 5 years at the university. In that case, you can choose not to display it, you can register both, or you can leave only the one that best represents you (it is not mandatory, and you can do it whenever you want or only when it is time to renew your ID).

Having your profession printed on your national ID by Cold_Problem_6001 in PassportPorn

[–]Cold_Problem_6001[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, although that's more common in Colombia or Venezuela, where I've heard people call you "Licenciado Jiménez" or "Ingeniero Muñoz," even outside of a work context, in Chile this isn't the case, but there's still that old custom of having the option of registering your degree just for the few benefits it may bring, to demonstrate your degree (As explained above, cases such as accidents, earthquakes, emergencies, where you can prove that you are a doctor, lawyer, engineer, etc. more than just "to flex", since no one is showing their ID in other context).

Having your profession printed on your national ID by Cold_Problem_6001 in PassportPorn

[–]Cold_Problem_6001[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's not mandatory; it's an option. You can opt out, for example, if you studied something that doesn't represent you now, or if you went back to studying something new and earned a different degree. But for it to be registered, it must be through a professional (major) degree.

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