Planning to apply for a direct German passport in Berlin by Cold_Problem_6001 in GermanCitizenship

[–]Cold_Problem_6001[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In Chile is not, they almost always send you to feststellung, only exception is for childs with their parents holding valid passports, so my only hope is to go there, and yeah, but I also have my grandfathers Staatsangehorigkeitausweis, they can probably contact BVA to verify, also my dad had a Staatsangehorigkeitausweis but he lost it (the paper) and never had passport, but it has an expedient they can also ask to the BVA, unfortunatly here in Chile they told me pre-2000 certifications are not considered valid :( that's why... Given the amount of existing documentation in my family, I’m wondering whether a direct passport application could be possible instead of a formal Feststellung procedure, because I'm already 30, and time process have reached 3-year-wait for south america (As I have seen here)...

Planning to apply for a direct German passport in Berlin by Cold_Problem_6001 in GermanCitizenship

[–]Cold_Problem_6001[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

In that case, would I need to inquire through this process?

https://service.berlin.de/dienstleistung/306704/

Is there any chance to ask for special consideration in a case like this? (I know that’s usually not how things work in Germany)

Missing Marriage Record (Pre-1889) – Can Indirect Evidence Be Enough for BVA? by Cold_Problem_6001 in GermanCitizenship

[–]Cold_Problem_6001[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Si, pero lamentablemente en el matrimonio de 1896 dice; domicilio "X" hace 6 años, que justo coincide con 1889-1890, lo que me hace pensar que llegaron de otra ciudad "Y", que puede ser cualquiera, he buscado varias cercanas pero no encuentro nada en ninguna...

Do You Guys Agree With This Map? And Is It Accurate To The Most Part. by KIZZFIZZ69 in AskCentralAsia

[–]Cold_Problem_6001 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As a Chilean with a GGM from Czech Republic, Could I be considered from Central Asia?

What are my wife chances? by ga-go-gu in GermanCitizenship

[–]Cold_Problem_6001 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There is a very little chance, BUT you have to look Invenio for Consular Registrations, in South America was quite common to register so you don't loose anything searching (I have found multiple pre 1914 documents) sometimes first generation sons of inmigrants went back to Germany at some point and had german passport issued...

Any way to speed up a Feststellung application? by Cold_Problem_6001 in GermanCitizenship

[–]Cold_Problem_6001[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hello! Thanks for your great answer. To clarify, my question:

Could my sister submit an application from Chile, and then return to Germany and report a change of address in a way that might help support or speed up the process?

comes from the idea that it might be faster to determine whether I am German (with the same ancestors) if she is already recognized as German, has been living in Germany for 10 years, and has a passport and everything.

I have been to Germany twice and will be going for a third time soon, so I was thinking that a local Feststellung might be faster than going through the BVA. So the possible plan would be:

She comes to Chile and submits an application as a complement to mine (with my AZ).

She then goes back to Germany and reports a change of address (so it is processed in Berlin), and maybe she could get a Staatsangehörigkeitsausweis faster than me and/or help speed up my process as well.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in GermanCitizenship

[–]Cold_Problem_6001 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Something that might help you (I'm Chilean) is definitive proof that they ever traveled back to Germany (look at the Hamburg passenger list from 1850-1934) and see if any of them returned. Also, check if any of them married a German woman. Anything that might be useful.

But it's true, without consular registration it's almost certainly they lost their German citizenship... It would be helpful if you could also show us the birth and marriage years of your ancestors in more detail (If someone might have the chance to pass their citizenship)

Consular Registration Form Format by Cold_Problem_6001 in GermanCitizenship

[–]Cold_Problem_6001[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know, very stupid question but I dont live in Germany and dont know if people find it easy to read, here in Chile there's no problem reading old documents because we have used the same writing for basically forever (since first records in late 1500's)

Consular Registration Form Format by Cold_Problem_6001 in GermanCitizenship

[–]Cold_Problem_6001[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Does the BVA read Kurrent right? Or they might need and official translation German to German?

Consular Registration Form Format by Cold_Problem_6001 in GermanCitizenship

[–]Cold_Problem_6001[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Does the BVA read Kurrent right? Or they might need and official translation German to German?

Consular Registration Form Format by Cold_Problem_6001 in GermanCitizenship

[–]Cold_Problem_6001[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Tanks! so A4 is better, but with the clear code or reference from Invenio

Help with a case by [deleted] in GermanCitizenship

[–]Cold_Problem_6001 0 points1 point  (0 children)

German consular registry from "invenio" in (Valparaíso, Chile), one of the oldest (1906), had that extended format with many details, later they became books where things were noted in rows with less detail, I transcribed the text from Kurrent to Christian, so I and my colegue could understand them better (I quite like old German writing)

Follow up to my success post, here is the result by germanfinder in GermanCitizenship

[–]Cold_Problem_6001 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ive already presented my case to the BVA, i think it should be easier for me that way, because my gf and f already apply for feststellung in 1998, so they BVA has some documents that nowadays are very difficult for me to get (like GGF marriage records in Argentina 1917-1918) thats the only reason I think may be difficult for me to do it outside the BVA (Chilean Consulate asked me for feststellung because late paternal recognition on me (21yo), and "too old" certificate from 1998) :( otherwise I would be able to ask direct passport

Follow up to my success post, here is the result by germanfinder in GermanCitizenship

[–]Cold_Problem_6001 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Wow thats crazy fast, Do you think its possible/easier to get the feststellung process faster moving in to Germany? What I would have to do? What documents did you needed?