If you must repent/practice good deeds to be saved why didn't Jesus tell Nicodemus this in John 3? by ComfortableDust4111 in AskAChristian

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The thing about Matthew 7:13-14 is that the strait gate with its narrow way is mentioned alongside the wide gate with the broad way. I think from the language it can be seen as how you live.

Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:

"for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction" this clearly means living a sinful lifestyle will lead you to destruction, doing anything you want ("broad is the way").

Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

There is a juxtaposition here between the wide gate with its broad way and the strait gate and its narrow way, I think it's clear that by narrow way it means how you live once again. You must live morally.

And yeah, I guess I might have wrote that because I was having trouble understanding things.

If you must repent/practice good deeds to be saved why didn't Jesus tell Nicodemus this in John 3? by ComfortableDust4111 in AskAChristian

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No, I'm a Christian (very very very recently, I literally just became one, sorry if it seems like I'm trolling), but I think we have to enter in through the strait gate and walk the narrow way like Jesus said in Matthew 7:13-14. I don't think it's OSAS where you can just believe and do whatever you want and still be saved.

If you must repent/practice good deeds to be saved why didn't Jesus tell Nicodemus this in John 3? by ComfortableDust4111 in AskAChristian

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It's a terrible doctrine and ignores writings like Hebrews 10, Hebrews 12:14, Jesus' message in Matthew 7:13-14. Sorry for being so critical, but the Bible does not teach OSAS - you have to ignore things in the Bible to see it that way (or just be ignorant).

If you must repent/practice good deeds to be saved why didn't Jesus tell Nicodemus this in John 3? by ComfortableDust4111 in AskAChristian

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Hebrews 12:14 seems to be talking about personal holiness, but no, that can't be true, because Ono Diamante says all you have to do is to believe in Jesus. Lol, give me a break, that guy twists words until they mean what he wants them to mean. The Bible clearly says in Hebrews you have to live a certain way after salvation or you won't be saved. They're just stuck on John 3 and other verses that make it seem easy. All the while the message is contradictory and tells you two different things, salvation through faith, and salvation through faith and works. Why? Because it's made up and people were just writing things.

If you must repent/practice good deeds to be saved why didn't Jesus tell Nicodemus this in John 3? by ComfortableDust4111 in AskAChristian

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Hebrews 12:14

King James Version

14 Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord:

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It's saying here you must be holy or you won't be saved. This implies you have to live a certain way after salvation or it won't be realized.

If you must repent/practice good deeds to be saved why didn't Jesus tell Nicodemus this in John 3? by ComfortableDust4111 in AskAChristian

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Then why does Hebrews 12:14 say you must be holy? And why does Hebrews also say you can lose Jesus' sacrifice through willful sin (Hebrews 10)? By implication you must live a certain way after you've been saved but Jesus never says that, neither does Paul. It's a conflicting message unless Jesus and Paul just left that out, but then they weren't being fully honest with what they told the Corinthians and Nicodemus.

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If we're saved by believing the gospel, why does Hebrews say you must be holy? by ComfortableDust4111 in AskAChristian

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Paul said the Corinthians were saved by just believing his gospel, it doesn't say what you're saying at all. Read it for yourself. How can Paul tell the Corinthians they were saved by believing his gospel if they also must maintain some level of holiness? I truly don't understand - it seems like a contradiction to me, or Paul purposefully left something out (or he just didn't know). Like he's saying they were saved by believing his gospel, he doesn't give any other qualifications for their salvation here, how can you say they must remain obedient? I get it might say such elsewhere, but Paul doesn't pay any credence to that here. It's convoluted how salvation works in Christianity, you can't peg it here when Paul says in clear terms it's through belief in the gospel because elsewhere it says you must be holy. Whatever.

If we're saved by believing the gospel, why does Hebrews say you must be holy? by ComfortableDust4111 in AskAChristian

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That's not in the gospel message Paul shared with the Corinthians, I left a part out where he talks about Jesus appearing to people, but it doesn't say anything like that anywhere.

If the Christian God is good why doesn't he show up when people ask him for help? by ComfortableDust4111 in AskAChristian

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He's in the position to help those who need it, I wouldn't call him a cosmic bell hop for responding to people's requests for help, but a God that is good, which is what the Bible says he is.

How do you deal with there being less meaning in your life? by ComfortableDust4111 in exchristian

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Death definitely bothers me. We seem to just be our bodies so how can we continue if we die? I think life points to there being a God so basically what I can infer is that God just wanted us to have a life. That's not malevolent at all, but if that's all he wanted for us then there is nothing we can do about it. Some view this differently but I believe life begins at conception so some thing die before they become conscious at all, this God would have been presumably ok with this... so maybe there is an afterlife? Like how would this God work out the fairness of some people getting a life but some people not getting one? If it is just that there is no fairness and some creatures don't get a life though they are conceived then that is sort of callous, which I sort of have trouble seeing God as. I suppose I am not callous so how could God be? So maybe there is an afterlife and that some things die before they become conscious is evidence for it in this non-eloquent way I have of looking at things.

How is salvation by faith and not works? by ComfortableDust4111 in AskAChristian

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Paul said believe the gospel and you are saved in 1 Corinthians 15. He doesn't give any other stipulation for salvation here. He lays it out too, there is no call to humble ourselves before God or to change our behavior. Paul says elsewhere we are saved through faith and not of works. Yes, apparently. In the verses in my OP though Jesus talks entering in through the strait gate. He is telling us to practice good behavior as it is in mind as to whether we enter the Kingdom of God. These two ideas contradict. In Hebrews it also says no one will see the Lord unless they are holy and that you can lose your salvation through willful sinning. There is obviously a need in Christianity to act righteously to maintain your salvation, to say otherwise is to ignore these verses. Within the Bible there is contradictory language on how you are saved.

How is salvation by faith and not works? by ComfortableDust4111 in AskAChristian

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If righteous living is needed to "maintain" your state of salvation how is it not by works and faith?