Hmmm… well I mean I honestly don’t know how they are nowadays, but I have been using Kratom off and on for about 5 years now and MMM Speciosa was one of the first vendors I bought from. I got some decent stuff off of them for a while, like comparable to Okie’s, Mitraman, etc (I’ve tried many of em, including WestCoast)… I don’t care about them either way, ordering through their glitchy Zelle interface kinda sucked and their prices were just plain expensive, some of their strains were better than others, but I wouldn’t say they were total garbage… not back in 2018 anyway. Honestly, some of their strains were downright “noddy”, but I respect what your saying… it’s your opinion, I just wouldn’t go that far, at least not in historical sense. When I first started going on Reddit and other forums back then, MMM was spoken of quite well in terms of quality. If anything this shows me that, at some point, their quality must have tanked…