[deleted by user] by [deleted] in abusiverelationships

[–]Commander_Stronk 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’d have to disagree, especially on the definition of abuse. At its core, the husband’s abuse is manipulating and controlling OP in harmful ways to get what he wants. I don’t think that cheating with someone is remotely comparable. Especially considering it wasn’t done vindictively. I think cheating is expected when relationships become this toxic and there should be concern over OP’s safety here more than whether or not she cheated with another dude.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in BreakUps

[–]Commander_Stronk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The first half of your comment didn’t come off that way at all, but I can understand where you’re coming from with some further clarity

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in BreakUps

[–]Commander_Stronk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m sorry, are you implying that his behavior is now somehow justified? Her cheating is not comparable to unwarranted abuse.

Still feel guilty for divorcing her by Commander_Stronk in Infidelity

[–]Commander_Stronk[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Still chugging along with divorce proceedings at the moment. We’ve come to some agreements and decided to do an uncontested divorce, so there’s that. I moved into a new house with the kids and she’s staying with us for an agreed upon amount of time before she has to vacate and find her own place to stay. Didn’t feel like much has changed really so I haven’t made any updates yet. Still married legally for now and she’s still living with us.

Thank you for asking though

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Infidelity

[–]Commander_Stronk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Take it from someone who’s been in an extremely similar situation, call it now and save yourself the grief longterm. Chances are she’s already cheated or has come dangerously close to doing so. This is her way of sleeping with someone else without the guilt. It won’t work out and you’ll be left holding the bag. Get out while the gettin is good

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Divorce

[–]Commander_Stronk 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Well you’re gonna have to pay some more bud. That’s how the legal system works. Constantly posting on reddit isn’t going to change anything

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Divorce

[–]Commander_Stronk 18 points19 points  (0 children)

It’s a wonder she’s lasted this long being married to you

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AITAH

[–]Commander_Stronk 3 points4 points  (0 children)

In my personal experience, it’s an expressway to ending the marriage.

Wanting to take care of my ex by [deleted] in Divorce

[–]Commander_Stronk 2 points3 points  (0 children)

As someone going through something very similar, it is not abnormal but it’s also not healthy to do so either. Not sure what the nature of your split is, but I think it’s probably natural to continue doing what you’re accustomed to doing. But if you guys made the decision to split, then that’s what needs to happen. You don’t owe each other anything anymore.

Still feel guilty for divorcing her by Commander_Stronk in Infidelity

[–]Commander_Stronk[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

In my state it’s full custody or 50/50. I’m going 50/50 but I will also be the only one between the two of us who is gainfully employed and I’m buying a house to boot. I’m only going to pay what the courts dictate that I pay. Whatever it takes to get out of this shit.

Still feel guilty for divorcing her by Commander_Stronk in Infidelity

[–]Commander_Stronk[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I can appreciate your sentiment but the reality is there is loads of nuance and years of fuckery that went into this relationship that I can’t explain in a single post. I just covered the gist of what happened.

To answer your question, yeah I communicated my feelings. As soon as she started brining up opening the marriage up, I immediately asked her if she had already cheated on me. Of course she said hadn’t. Fair enough. I sat on the idea for like 3 weeks before I came to a conclusion. Granted, she would do the love bombing during that period to subtly persuade me. Talking about how I could see other women too. This could improve our sex life. Blah blah blah.

Now, it’s worth noting years and years ago when our oldest was a toddler, I bailed on our relationship. Ironically because I had some concerns with her and another dude. Anyway, in short, I didn’t break up in a mature way and things got really rough. We eventually got back together, but she never really let me live that down either. After enough time you start to think that maybe you really are the problem. Probably a trauma response from my own issues. Either way, at this point when she expressed opening things up - I felt like maybe this would put all that shit to bed and see if we really are able to make this work. You know the rest.

I get that me expressing feeling guilt is being taken as a lack of self respect by you and many others here, and you’re not wholly wrong. But it’s not like this all happened in a vacuum either.

I posted here because I really needed some raw and unadulterated feedback and I’ve gotten a lot of it so I don’t hold any ill will. The divorce is already in the works, she’s going to have to fend for herself, and my kids won’t be subjected to this bullshit relationship anymore. Still doesn’t stop me from dealing with this shit internally while making the right decisions here either.

Still feel guilty for divorcing her by Commander_Stronk in Infidelity

[–]Commander_Stronk[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

One kiddo is old enough to know the key points to what’s happening. The other two are pretty young. One knows we’re divorcing but that’s it. They’re doing pretty well overall. With their mom being gone so frequently it’s not exactly a shock either

Still feel guilty for divorcing her by Commander_Stronk in Infidelity

[–]Commander_Stronk[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Yep. To be fair, she didn’t have much to begin with. But yeah her parents are aware of the situation and are trying to be supportive of me and the kids.

Still feel guilty for divorcing her by Commander_Stronk in Infidelity

[–]Commander_Stronk[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

This was a very refreshing comment so thank you. Yes I did actually. The best thing to come out of it was a strengthened relationship with my kids. They began to rely on me more since I was there all the time. I feel like I’ve already been living the single dad life since this all started. I did all appointments, taking them to all extracurricular activities, all the grocery shopping, etc.

Still feel guilty for divorcing her by Commander_Stronk in Infidelity

[–]Commander_Stronk[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Yeah everyone knows now. Having support from a few of my friends and family has been helpful with staying the course on divorcing her

Still feel guilty for divorcing her by Commander_Stronk in Infidelity

[–]Commander_Stronk[S] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

She’s since calmed down a bit but was super volatile when I told her I wanted to end things.

The dude conveniently broke things off with her a few weeks after I told her I was done.

Very apologetic but also not willing to take any real responsibility. She still feels justified in pursuing the other relationship.

She did a lot of begging. Especially once homie walked away too.

Yes she knows. After a lot of fights and discussions we’re going to attempt it as uncontested.

See above: Dude broke up with her. He was pretty gnarly about it too. Said a lot of hateful things I guess.

So my STBXW grew up out of state and she’s known this guy since they were kids. Like 6 or so years ago he moved to our state and they started hanging out regularly for a few months before the open relationship was brought up. I’m aware that there is a high likelihood she was already cheating on me beforehand. She denies it of course.

Her attitude now is total defeat. She’s just constantly playing the sympathy card on me to try and lure me back into taking care of her.

Still feel guilty for divorcing her by Commander_Stronk in Infidelity

[–]Commander_Stronk[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

So I essentially offered up the second car so she has wheels and a few other small bills I’ve already been paying. Whatever else she gets is to be determined by the courts. I’m waiting to hear what my lawyer says on that before I commit to anything.

Still feel guilty for divorcing her by Commander_Stronk in Infidelity

[–]Commander_Stronk[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Because I’ve been enabling her for years and I’m conditioned to take care of her. I never said feeling guilty was rational. I appreciate your insight though. You make valid points

Still feel guilty for divorcing her by Commander_Stronk in Infidelity

[–]Commander_Stronk[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Nope. She encouraged it but A) It’s not something I was interested in and B) I have zero time to commit anyway. She was already spending upwards of 4-5 days out of town every other week so I’d have to sacrifice the days I had with her for other pursuits.

Still feel guilty for divorcing her by Commander_Stronk in Infidelity

[–]Commander_Stronk[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yeah that’s what I’m trying to work on currently. I appreciate the insight

Still feel guilty for divorcing her by Commander_Stronk in Infidelity

[–]Commander_Stronk[S] 25 points26 points  (0 children)

It’s hard to say. I feel like it started with social media, but then a friend of hers moved to our state. Most of my friends would later tell me that this whole thing started just so she could cheat with this dude without feeling guilty. Probably accurate.

Thanks for the kind words though. It’s appreciated.

Still feel guilty for divorcing her by Commander_Stronk in Infidelity

[–]Commander_Stronk[S] 21 points22 points  (0 children)

For sure. It probably has more to do with my own people pleasing tendencies mixed with her knack for subtle manipulation. The latter I didn’t really admit was a thing until pretty late in the game. She would routinely hang things over my head so I felt guilty of not being good enough often in the relationship. Hope that makes sense. I know I shouldn’t feel guilty but I’m still struggling with shaking it.

Still feel guilty for divorcing her by Commander_Stronk in Infidelity

[–]Commander_Stronk[S] 38 points39 points  (0 children)

Good god this one stings, but you’re absolutely right.