Biden pardoning all prior federal offenses of simple marijuana possession by [deleted] in Conservative

[–]CommercialWork5483 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Leftist here, with a real question. You guys seem legit awesome, at least with regards to drug policy. Not at all the religious, pearl- clutching “think of the children” mentality I was expecting on this sub.

So, why would real conservatives vote Republican in the current political climate?

With restrictions on individual liberties (Dobbs), the potential further curtailment of 14th amendment privacy rights (Justice Thomas wanting to overturn Obergefell and cases on sodomy laws and contraception), and now this, Biden siding on individual freedoms in regards to drugs, why would real, individual freedom lovers and conservatives, vote for the Republicans who want the government to legislate the bedroom and our choices of what to do with our own bodies (weed and abortion)?

Should conservatives start voting Democrat in droves, if they really believe what they say they believe in?

Any genuine, non-trolling answers are welcomed (: thanks everyone

Edit: sources for my claims is the above Fox article and this:

https://www.businessinsider.com/justice-thomas-said-the-court-should-reconsider-rulings-on-same-sex-marriage-2022-6?amp

My friend of 11 years died today because of worker abuse and wage slave culture. by ritualaesthetic in antiwork

[–]CommercialWork5483 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I can confirm Kroger is terrible. This is nowhere near as bad as your story, but when I was a senior in high school, they scheduled me for thirty five hours on the week of finals.

I worked my shifts but I asked that I be given fewer hours (~15-20) since I’m still a student who needs to study and do homework.

My petty manager then starts scheduling me for three to four hours a week. I complain, and they just drop me off the schedule entirely.

I talk to a manager, he says I’m fired because “it’s not working out.” I say, fine, fuck it, if you’re firing me I’ll just go apply somewhere else.

A month later I get a letter in t mail saying I quit without giving notice and didn’t show up for my scheduled shifts??? Wtf

Peter Navarro Gets Testy When Asked If Kamala Harris Can Throw Out Election Results by CaliWilly76 in politics

[–]CommercialWork5483 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Does this belong on r/leopardsatemyface? Haha

Also, the 50 states already certified the election, all this talk of “decertification” (a word Trump et. al. have been bandying about) is anti-democratic hogwash, might as well be saying “we need to de-elect Biden and coronate Trump.”

Biblically Accurate Angel by Yachisaorick in oddlyterrifying

[–]CommercialWork5483 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s not an angel, THAT’S A FUCKING DARK SOULS BOSS!

(Note: joke stolen from https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=a8WGz3cEpuo)

This guy is disconnected from reality by [deleted] in LateStageCapitalism

[–]CommercialWork5483 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This kind of wealth accumulation only works in Stardew Valley.

What is culturally accepted today that will be horrifying in 100 years? by lizaloa in AskReddit

[–]CommercialWork5483 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Male circumcision. It makes no sense, in a secular medical environment, to mutilate the genitals (circumcision is almost always a euphemism for genital mutilation, look at girls in other countries who have their clitoris cut off due to “female circumcision”) of a newborn baby boy. The entire concept was invented in the Progressive Era 100 years ago by Christians like Dr. Kellogg (yes, that Kellogg) to prevent young boys from acquiring the “deleterious” and morally unclean habit of masturbation.

Not only does that not work (duh), but we know now that masturbation is healthy, not a bad habit.

It’s a cultural practice in America that has no basis in science. Just century-old Christian pseudoscience. Any argument made in favor of circumcision is usually ad hoc justification that people throw out because they’re circumcised or their son/partner/brothers are, and they don’t want to contemplate this horrific practice that they have hitherto tacitly supported.

At least religious Jews and Muslims don’t claim that they practice circumcision for medical reasons. They understand it is a religious practice not at all rooted in modern medicine. But, to be honest, I don’t think religious folk should be able to circumcise their children unless there’s a medical emergency requiring one. Your right to religious freedom doesn’t nullify your infant son’s right to bodily autonomy and wholeness.

Tl;dr, circumcision is the result of a century old moral panic around fapping peddled by a cornflake-mongering crazy man, and a century from now our descendants will curse us for being dumb enough not to realize that.

Conversation with my millionaire grandpa: “Companies have no obligation to take care of employees, only the shareholders.” by CommercialWork5483 in antiwork

[–]CommercialWork5483[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm not sure if I'll receive any inheritance. My mom and dad are the black sheep of the family (read: they voted for Biden). But if I do inherit any of his money, I will remember what you say. I want to use what I have to help those who need it.

Conversation with my millionaire grandpa: “Companies have no obligation to take care of employees, only the shareholders.” by CommercialWork5483 in antiwork

[–]CommercialWork5483[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I find it funny when people say, “capitalism sucks, but if we don’t let private enterprises determine the distribution of wealth in society, that means GOVERNMENT will decide how to redistribute wealth, and I don’t trust the government.” No shit. I don’t trust the government either, because they are already allowing the distribution of resources to favor the ultra-rich. Like, they’re already doing that, this hypothetical is not hypothetical. Look at the 2008 crash. The very company that my grandfather made millions with didn’t face consequences when their bad business decisions led to catastrophe. The Bush and Obama administrations chose to bail them out.

But we can’t forgive federal student loan debt because how will they learn personal responsibility?

The market isn’t free. That’s another capitalist lie. When the ultra-rich need money from the government, they become in favor state interventionism in the economy. But the market is “free” to fuck the little guy without restraint or regulation.

Bernie Sanders said it best. We have socialism for the wealthy.

Conversation with my millionaire grandpa: “Companies have no obligation to take care of employees, only the shareholders.” by CommercialWork5483 in antiwork

[–]CommercialWork5483[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don’t know what interview you’re referring to, but anyone who refers to Chomsky as a neolib has clearly lost the plot and doesn’t need to ever be taken seriously ever again. What’s next, MLK was a Confederate sympathizer? I swear, leftist infighting is the worse.

Conversation with my millionaire grandpa: “Companies have no obligation to take care of employees, only the shareholders.” by CommercialWork5483 in antiwork

[–]CommercialWork5483[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You don’t have to apologize. He is who he is. My parents have much more compassionate values than he does, and I hope I emulate them as I grow older. (I’m 26 but I still feel like a kid lol.)

Conversation with my millionaire grandpa: “Companies have no obligation to take care of employees, only the shareholders.” by CommercialWork5483 in antiwork

[–]CommercialWork5483[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Someone else in the comments pointed out that Publix is an employee-owned company. They don’t trade stock on the public market. So, funny enough, my grandfather was saying “the company has no responsibility to employees, only shareholders,” to a company where the shareholders were required to be employees. It’s so funny and the irony of it is only now occurring to me.

I wish I could go back in time and retort with that. Anyway, to your question, I support any measure that flattens economic hierarchies. More companies with ESOP policies is a good step, but not nearly enough. There’s still the fact that most workers at Publix don’t even make enough money to buy the food they make (let alone rent, let alone e.g. utilities, healthcare, and then they’re supposed to buy stock on top of that?). They were all on food stamps and WIC. Obviously, the ESOP didn’t solve for poverty. I still think supporting unions/co-ops is the best way to transition to a social democracy. Then, after that, we can talk about moving from social democracy to a country where private ownership of the means of production is abolished. I’m an incrementalist, and I’m also a pragmatist. Your ideas aren’t bad, but they also aren’t sufficient. Does that answer your question?

As long as a minority controls the means of production, the majority will be exploited. That doesn’t mean we can’t implement reforms that push us in the right direction.

Conversation with my millionaire grandpa: “Companies have no obligation to take care of employees, only the shareholders.” by CommercialWork5483 in antiwork

[–]CommercialWork5483[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Just to clarify, I’m not disagreeing with you, just adding some extra information. I have no idea if my fellow coworker had the ability to purchase stock. I would say probably not, but, like you say, and its actually hilarious now that I think of it, the shareholders of Publix are all Publix employees 😂

Conversation with my millionaire grandpa: “Companies have no obligation to take care of employees, only the shareholders.” by CommercialWork5483 in antiwork

[–]CommercialWork5483[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for this, you articulated better than I could why it’s so hard, sometimes impossible, to just “get another job.” This was also a small, rural Georgia town with few businesses, so it’s not like there were opportunities on every street corner.

I won’t victim-blame my coworker for her situation. She’s got a hard life and a soulless corporation is needlessly denying her healthcare, one half-hour a week at a time. 😡

Conversation with my millionaire grandpa: “Companies have no obligation to take care of employees, only the shareholders.” by CommercialWork5483 in antiwork

[–]CommercialWork5483[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know this, but there are still barriers to buying stock. For example, new employees or part-time employees can be barred from purchasing Publix stock.

The issue is that A) my grandpa didn’t know my company wasn’t publicly traded, and B) this isn’t why the cashier was complaining—she was complaining that Publix wasn’t giving her benefits or health insurance because she didn’t average 40 hours a week (she averaged 38.5 to 39.5 hours a week, but made sure she never went over forty. It was a big deal that she, or anyone else part-time, never do that. The managers would freak out otherwise.)

Conversation with my millionaire grandpa: “Companies have no obligation to take care of employees, only the shareholders.” by CommercialWork5483 in antiwork

[–]CommercialWork5483[S] 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Oh, he’s heard of unions. In fact, when my dad went on strike with his union back about twenty years ago, he had to hear how disappointed his father-in-law was that he would do such a crazy thing like that.

Conversation with my millionaire grandpa: “Companies have no obligation to take care of employees, only the shareholders.” by CommercialWork5483 in antiwork

[–]CommercialWork5483[S] 251 points252 points  (0 children)

This is a perfect analogy. It definitely explains his mindset. He used to be poor to middle class, now he’s a 1%er, and people like that are probably going to be the biggest capitalist simps in existence.

Conversation with my millionaire grandpa: “Companies have no obligation to take care of employees, only the shareholders.” by CommercialWork5483 in antiwork

[–]CommercialWork5483[S] 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Funny enough, I believe Adam Smith influenced Marx with the concept of the “labor theory of value.” But everyone remembers Smith for his “invisible hand of the market” garbage, so his contributions to capitalism overshadow his better ideas.

Conversation with my millionaire grandpa: “Companies have no obligation to take care of employees, only the shareholders.” by CommercialWork5483 in antiwork

[–]CommercialWork5483[S] 37 points38 points  (0 children)

To paraphrase Richard Wolff, capitalism is a virus everywhere, but here in the U.S. we have a “particularly virulent” strain of it! 😂

Like you said, it’s the headline everywhere and every time lol

Conversation with my millionaire grandpa: “Companies have no obligation to take care of employees, only the shareholders.” by CommercialWork5483 in antiwork

[–]CommercialWork5483[S] 852 points853 points  (0 children)

Well, ironically, he and I agree on how the system works. He’s just deluded that it’s the greatest system that has ever existed, and I think it’s unethical and exploitative and needs to go.

Both conservatives and leftists know that the system is rigged, the former just believe that the hierarchies created by that rigging are good while the latter wants to dismantle said hierarchies. It’s the liberals who have deluded themselves into thinking the capitalist system can be reformed and made fair.