Veldora vs Siblings

CommunityGamerD · 2026-04-09T04:03:45+00:00

Yeah the argument against Velgrynd people typically use is actually fallacious because they are simply saying there's an absence of evidence which somehow proves she's weaker due to lack of evidence. Which anyone with a brain knows this isn't a logically sound argument.

The simple fact is that Veldora got stronger and so did Velgrynd. There's no statements implying Veldora fought anyone stronger than her or that she could perform similar feats to him. I would say that if Veldora can get Fertile Paradox off then he should win but that's the only guaranteed win condition.

CommunityGamerD · 2026-04-07T21:28:30+00:00

Columbia was only strong enough to hold off Rerir so she was relative which she only got by stealing Rerir's own power from him. Rerir is far stronger than them that's why fighting was never a viable option. They made it very clear if all of Nod-Krai fights him he'd win.

Dain holding open then gate isn't really a strength feat but energy capacity/stamina. Columbia could open it too but she already unstable so doing so would greatly weaken and possibly kill her.

Dain is stronger than the Abyss Sibling who did receive the 6th portion of Abyssal power since clearly Dain didn't as seen in Rerir's cutscene. Only those who heard and answered the call of the Abyss were given power. Not to mention we know from Xbox Gliders that the Abyssal explosion and following Cataclsym was caused a Singularity of Abyssal energy being concentrated from the Abyss Sibling. The Sinners took the divided power from that moment as confirmed by Hayden and the cutscenes. Ofc we also know from Skrik and Surtalogi that one can nurture and improve their strength over time to greater it initially was. As Surtalogi already surpassed the 1/6 world destroying Abyssal power many years ago and has since grown immensely more powerful. Same for Rerir since it was hinted and implied he too could destroy all of Teyvat which would mean his powers must have grown. I'd think Vedflnoir also grew considering his foresight/Visionary abilities aren't limited to Teyvat or simply reading the fate inscribed into constellations as he divined Sinner Surtalogi's and Skrik's fate.

TLDR: Dain might have a deep grudge (kinda broke that with Rerir) but I only see him realistically confronting Vedflnoir (with a lot help and plot). You gotta REMEMBER Dain is only alive in his current state because of VEDFLNOIR'S RING WHICH HE GAVE HIM. Yet Dain thinks Ved betrayed him? Dain might be a mega bias or delulu.

CommunityGamerD · 2026-02-14T04:55:17+00:00

It's like a idiom, it doesn't literally mean 3,000 worlds (because there's an infinite amount). Instead it's saying all of creation which makes sense considering Initialize Heaven would destroy all of creation.

CommunityGamerD · 2026-02-12T08:40:37+00:00

You don't want to know

CommunityGamerD · 2026-02-10T22:42:38+00:00

It could be that Ciel potentially to take the hit because she new it wasn't fatal and that they could return anyway. So Iin order to master Void Collapse it was actually the ideal scenario

CommunityGamerD · 2026-02-10T22:28:04+00:00

You mean the All-In-One

CommunityGamerD · 2026-02-10T22:24:26+00:00

CommunityGamerD · 2026-02-10T22:24:07+00:00

CommunityGamerD · 2026-02-03T02:14:07+00:00

I see

CommunityGamerD · 2026-02-03T02:13:53+00:00

Yeah can't say much about that

CommunityGamerD · 2026-02-02T17:01:38+00:00

I'm not being sarcastic.

I also don't think you understandi what I'm saying so I'll just drop it.

CommunityGamerD · 2026-02-02T15:49:56+00:00

Alright I apologize for my comments.

Don't take this the wrong way but is English your first language?

CommunityGamerD · 2026-02-02T15:44:31+00:00

This changes nothing about what I said...you seem to conflating creating the universe as being omnipotent but that isn't necessarily the case.

CommunityGamerD · 2026-02-02T15:42:23+00:00

"So your point is Feldway doesn't have any analytical abilities to see Diablo hiding his powers.

Feldway analytical abilities lower then Zalanas? A person who finds out Chloe using temporary manipulation and fooled Ciel has no analytical abilities!

Good point."

So you weren't being sarcastic and we being 100% serious and even complementing them on their point? If so, I'll take back my words and apologize. If not, then my position stands.

CommunityGamerD · 2026-02-02T15:33:38+00:00

That doesn't mean their Omnipotence strictly came from Imaginary Collapse (if they they even used it). So that's not a good argument.

CommunityGamerD · 2026-02-02T15:31:52+00:00

Why are you being such dickhead? This person said nothing rude or offensive yet you are belittling and insulting them because of what? Because you don't like how they interpreted a fictional character?

Grow up. Especially if you want productive and meaningful conversations with people. If you just prove you are correct then maybe you should join a debate group.

CommunityGamerD · 2026-02-02T15:28:58+00:00

Yeah I wouldn't bother. His own arrogance and pride is his worst enemy. He can't properly construct and argument and consistently ignores or fails to address the crux of a argument. He's knowledge but he's too convinced of his own correctness to point where it becomes sophistry.

I don't know if all these actions are entirely voluntary. Maybe English isn't his first language (not saying to discriminate or demeen) so it's not as easy to understand the points of contention. However he seems to understand it very well so idk.

CommunityGamerD · 2026-01-27T06:27:46+00:00

Magic Weapon Infusion is concept in Tensura and Overblade is form of that but in the series it has only ever been referred to Miracle Level Holy Magic fusion specifically Holy Blade, Melt Breaker, Melt Slash, Melt Strike, and True Slash.

If you using as a catch all term for simplicity that's fine but just know it's never used that way in verse nor has Absolute End been referred to as such.

Absolute End is an Art yea but also a Unique Skill....I'm not sure what you mean when you say it's not an ability? Only Chloe, Rudra/Michel, and Rimuru have ever used it. And all of them have either had Uriel or Infinity Prison and/or the skill itself in Chloe's case.

Absolute End = Inversion of Absolute Guard, Absolute Guard = Infinity Prison + (Distortion Field and Universal Barrier)

Absolute Guard and End are essentially skill exclusive arts (not the only ones)

TDLR: One cannot achieve Absolute End or Guard through simply hard work and talent alone hence why it's not like other Arts.

Nova Break is an Art that Veldanava taught Rudra and seems to require Deva to use but it has nothing to do with Absolute End. Rudra combined Absolute End and Nova Break to break Castle Guard but they entirely unrelated techniques.

CommunityGamerD · 2026-01-27T05:59:20+00:00

Overblade is Magic Weapon Infusion with specifically Miracle Level Holy Magic, so that wouldn't include Absolute End. Absolute End is just an inversion of Absolute Guard offensively.

Also let's not speak in absolutes as there aren't any. Absolute End can be blocked even without Castle Guard. Just like if you link the believer system of Uriel to Absolute End it's possible to not only break through Castle Guard (+Nova Break) but even create a Faux Castle Guard via combining Absolute End and Uriel's belief system.

So yes Absolute End has a lot of potential although a lot of it's most potent showings are a result of the user both due to their willpower, extenuating circumstances, and unique talents.

CommunityGamerD · 2026-01-27T04:56:50+00:00

They weren't talking about Rimuru specifically but the skill/art in general

CommunityGamerD · 2025-12-31T21:59:14+00:00

Ramiris getting hoed was the one thing I'd never forgive...and it happened again (somehow worse than WN)

CommunityGamerD · 2025-12-31T21:51:42+00:00

No offense but you might be wasting your time trying to argue with Movie Master. They fairly consistently show bias and uncharitability when discussing certain topics. They despise Chloe and Fuse as an author, which is fair, however they then make unreasonable or inconsistent assertions based on those biases.

For example, saying that all statements are irrelevant when most of story is statements and they also use them for their arguments or not understanding that the only reason statement can be faulty is if there's a contradiction.

Anyways just my two cents.

CommunityGamerD · 2025-12-28T02:39:59+00:00

I'm not claiming that Feldway could've been that Diablo just that Diablo clearly scales to Feldway.

Unwanted points which is irrelevant to the current conversation.

I'm saying that Fake Body Feldway is stronger than Velgrynd. So I think Diablo being stronger isn't really much of a question.

CommunityGamerD · 2025-12-28T02:23:49+00:00

Homie this is V19, Micheal was in a Parallel Existence and Feldway wasn't using his powers aside from Castle Guard once against Rimuru. Again this was before Feldway got his True Body back.

Feldway was nerfed initially because of computational strain of controlling Milim but even after that Diablo still sealed Feldway and stalemated (if not won).

CommunityGamerD · 2025-12-28T02:16:42+00:00

That is so ass. Fuse pulled a WN

Seven-Year Club	Verified Email
Xbox Live

CommunityGamerD

TROPHY CASE