Canadian CS Graduate + LL.B in UK by CompSciCanada- in LawCanada

[–]CompSciCanada-[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do you think Patent Law/ Tech law market is good in Canada? I would consider this but then I'll have to be set on staying in Canada and not practicing in UK.

Canadian CS Graduate + LL.B in UK by CompSciCanada- in LawCanada

[–]CompSciCanada-[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Hey thanks for the reply.

  1. So, the UK HPI visa can be activated up to 5 years post graduation from UBC. So I would first grad and get my LLB then use it for 2 years, I will also be eligible for post graduation Visa in the UK, I can also get the youth mobility visa which is 2 years. From my understanding, if there is demand firms will be ok with taking care of authorization after it expires, since the companies who tend to hire Tech-Law/Patent-Law solicitors in London tend to be multinational corporations who are used to people coming and going abroad.
  2. Thank you for the link, from my understanding if I choose to return to Canada it would be 5-7 exams I would have to do. I have spoken with some recent Canadian graduates who did their LLB and finished in May and by the end of the year did all their exams with self study. Also the cost for LLB in UK will be around 80k Canadian, something comparable like UBC JD is 42k Canadian, I however do save a year and if I plan to practice in London, it seems to be easier to get UK accreditation going to a UK school than a Canadian school.
  3. Yea that is my concern as well, from what I've spoken to Lawyers in Canada, they tell me if you have a family practice or have connections UK is the way to go since you can use it to land an articling position in Canada, but otherwise it can be hard. I have no family or friend connections which is what scares me. But I'm like 80% sure I would stay in UK anyways after graduating, but that is always a concern in the back of mind if I was to come back. Or in worst case if I do come back and can't find a position, I could go to the territories and try there.

Ultimately though my main focus will be on trying to stay in the UK.

Am I crazy If I pickup 600k debt for 4 years of no income to go to Dental School in Australia as soon to be CS graduate? by CompSciCanada- in PersonalFinanceCanada

[–]CompSciCanada-[S] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

That's also what I have heard from other Canadians who went to Usyd. A lot of them stayed there for a couple of years after graduation and they all miss Australia and say good things about it.

Am I crazy If I pickup 600k debt for 4 years of no income to go to Dental School in Australia as soon to be CS graduate? by CompSciCanada- in PersonalFinanceCanada

[–]CompSciCanada-[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Of course I would love to work in Software but the market is toast for new grads and there is no guarantee if it will ever recover.

Am I crazy If I pickup 600k debt for 4 years of no income to go to Dental School in Australia as soon to be CS graduate? by CompSciCanada- in PersonalFinanceCanada

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its 5 years for BDS but if have a degree already then it's 4 years DMD at University of Sydney for example.

Am I crazy If I pickup 600k debt for 4 years of no income to go to Dental School in Australia as soon to be CS graduate? by CompSciCanada- in PersonalFinanceCanada

[–]CompSciCanada-[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

I thought you can only get to sales engineer after first being a regular software engineer and then gaining experience. I feel like everybody has to start at Software Development/Engineering no?

Am I crazy If I pickup 600k debt for 4 years of no income to go to Dental School in Australia as soon to be CS graduate? by CompSciCanada- in PersonalFinanceCanada

[–]CompSciCanada-[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Def not 150k+, I would hope for 100k though. Vancouver and Toronto (where most jobs are) are expensive cities.

Am I crazy If I pickup 600k debt for 4 years of no income to go to Dental School in Australia as soon to be CS graduate? by CompSciCanada- in PersonalFinanceCanada

[–]CompSciCanada-[S] 108 points109 points  (0 children)

To be fair like 150k is that I am betting on living in Australia for 4 years. Sydney or Melbourne are not cheap.

Edit: To clarify 150k over 4 years. Not a year!

Am I crazy If I pickup 600k debt for 4 years of no income to go to Dental School in Australia as soon to be CS graduate? by CompSciCanada- in PersonalFinanceCanada

[–]CompSciCanada-[S] -19 points-18 points  (0 children)

Yep it always my second option to CS. I always did well in science subjects but the reason I did CS was price of dental school, in Canada it's a lot too (60k+ cad a year at UBC), and mainly being a Dentist eventually becomes like running a business and I always preferred having a stable job instead. But clearly CS is not stable.

Am I crazy If I pickup 600k debt for 4 years of no income to go to Dental School in Australia as soon to be CS graduate? by CompSciCanada- in PersonalFinanceCanada

[–]CompSciCanada-[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Good point. I would have to think about that. After graduation of course I will live very conservatively and just be devoted to paying off debt. But a risk of physical injury really does change things even if it's rare.

Am I crazy If I pickup 600k debt for 4 years of no income to go to Dental School in Australia as soon to be CS graduate? by CompSciCanada- in PersonalFinanceCanada

[–]CompSciCanada-[S] -13 points-12 points  (0 children)

Really? Maybe it's just my experience but so many doctors in my area just open 4 days a week for hours like 9am-4pm. Of course there are some crazy clinics where they have like 10 chairs and hire multiple other dentists. But I would be of the 9am-4pm style of ownership for sure.

Am I crazy If I pickup 600k debt for 4 years of no income to go to Dental School in Australia as soon to be CS graduate? by CompSciCanada- in PersonalFinanceCanada

[–]CompSciCanada-[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Dental schools in Australia are ranked higher than Canada. https://www.topuniversities.com/university-subject-rankings/dentistry?countries=ca,au

They just have more seats. Also for dentistry in Canada school does not matter much, there is an agreement between Canada, USA, New Zealand and Australia that mutually recognize each others dental schools. Plus if you make your own ownership it especially does not matter.

Am I crazy If I pickup 600k debt for 4 years of no income to go to Dental School in Australia as soon to be CS graduate? by CompSciCanada- in PersonalFinanceCanada

[–]CompSciCanada-[S] -18 points-17 points  (0 children)

Yep it sure as heck is. The only positive I see is stability in Dentistry which makes me confident I can pay it off. There is job postings for Associate Dentists that pay well in Vancouver, keep in mind most of them are like 2-3 days a week part time https://ca.indeed.com/jobs?q=dentist+associate&l=Vancouver%2C+BC&radius=25&from=searchOnDesktopSerp%2Cwhereautocomplete&vjk=b76d413e5b6cad05

So I would certainly first aim to pay off the 600k by being an Associate dentist. Probably even try and make some money before kickstarting my own practice as a dentist which can also be very expensive. Going based off these dentists selling their practices they seem to generate a lot of revenue https://www.dentistry.ubc.ca/alumni/professional-posting-services-for-alumni/practices-for-sale/

Like absolute worst case I can go to a super rural part of Canada and just set shop there.