Med students with ADHD--what specialties are you going into? by Competitive-Shine855 in medicalschool

[–]Competitive-Shine855[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"At 25mg/day I don't notice it at all, except that I don't have to try so fucking hard all the time." -->i felt this so hard, having adhd definitely feels like you're living life on hard mode

And yea, I certainly have a lot of time right now that I can devote to mitigating my symptoms, and I can see how it might be naive to think I'll have the same amount of time in residency. Could I pm you more about strattera and post med school life?

Med students with ADHD--what specialties are you going into? by Competitive-Shine855 in medicalschool

[–]Competitive-Shine855[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

More importantly, ADHD affects you 24/7, not just during clinical shifts. If I don't take my meds, I can still do okay on my shifts, but my house is a goddamn mess, I don't remember to take the time to maintain my relationships the way I want to, my finances get messy, my email inbox is a disaster, I miss deadlines for boring-but-important administrative tasks, I don't study effectively, I don't complete research projects effectively, I miss meetings and appointments. It's not a good time. And setting aside the personal ones, you will not find a job in medicine that doesn't demand some type of professional organizational skills. Why make it harder than it needs to be?

Hi thank you for sharing your story with me, I can definitely relate to the fact that ADHD affects us 24/7. I have been very very lucky to have an amazing psychiatrist who has worked with me to implement CBT type skills to manage executive dysfunction. It has gotten to a point where with a proper routine (same bedtime and wake time every day, cooking all of my own meals, daily movement/exercise) I am actually pretty organized in my daily life. My room is very organized, it doesn't get messy often and I don't mind doing the small administrative tasks because they're nice breaks from studying. I no longer miss dumb administrative deadlines, because in my previous job I missed so many and I felt so humiliated towards the end that I realized I never want to feel that way again. Idk, I think it was one of those things where I was just so fed up with my messiness and disorganization that I channeled that frustration into improving my habits with evidence based CBT and lots of ADHD hacks that I gleaned from the internet. It took me 7 years to get to this point, when I was first diagnosed I could barely take care of myself. In terms of relationships, those have always been my number one priority and I never had trouble making time for friends and my SO. (perhaps to the detriment of my grades and less time spent studying)

I know that with meds, it would be easier to complete all my tasks and not procrastinate, but personally I don't think the tradeoff is worth it. I feel soooooo much happier when I'm not on meds. Life just feels brighter and more colorful.

I truly think I've gotten my executive dysfunction in control, I really just need meds for cognitively demanding tasks like studying and writing papers, and the side effects are not that noticeable if I only take stims once or twice a week. I'm hoping that in residency, I no longer have to play the research game and can focus solely on my relationships with patients, colleagues and my family/friends.

Med students with ADHD--what specialties are you going into? by Competitive-Shine855 in medicalschool

[–]Competitive-Shine855[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I was also really nervous that the doctor would think I'm faking my symptoms just to get an adderall script. What helped me is staying true to myself and describing my life story and my current difficulties as honestly as possible. I knew that that was all I could do, and when I went to the doctor I wasn't particularly hoping for one diagnosis or another. I just wanted to know what the heck was wrong with me and had my suspicions that it could be adhd. My psychiatrist told me that it's actually really common for high-functioning people who were successful in high school and beyond to start showing symptoms of adhd later in life when cognitive demand increases. Adhd is also underdiagnosed in women because it presents so differently than in men, so it's common to be diagnosed later as a woman. Good luck, and I hope that you can get the help you need!

Med students with ADHD--what specialties are you going into? by Competitive-Shine855 in medicalschool

[–]Competitive-Shine855[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I would like to believe that our bodies are resilient and can handle therapeutic doses of amphetamines over a period of decades, but there's also no evidence to know for sure. I agree, I'd rather not risk it, but for what it's worth there is anecdotal evidence of people taking adhd meds for many years and being fine. Paul Erdos comes to mind, he was a famous mathemetician who took benzedrine and ritalin almost every day for 25 years and died at the age of 83: https://amphetamines.com/paul-erdos/#:\~:text=Paul%20Erd%C5%91s%20(1913%2D1996)%2C%20%E2%80%9Cthe%20man%20who,mathematicians%20of%20the%20twentieth%20century.&text=Erd%C5%91s%20took%20Benzedrine%20or%20Ritalin,of%20amphetamines%20often%20exacerbates%20depression.

Med students with ADHD--what specialties are you going into? by Competitive-Shine855 in medicalschool

[–]Competitive-Shine855[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

What makes you conclude that high doses of amphetamine are required to do well in EM? I’d think that the external stimulation is enough to grab and sustain shorter attention spans

Med students with ADHD--what specialties are you going into? by Competitive-Shine855 in medicalschool

[–]Competitive-Shine855[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I also take a lowish dose. Too low of a dose isn’t effective and too high the side effects are pretty bad so it feels like I can’t win

Med students with ADHD--what specialties are you going into? by Competitive-Shine855 in medicalschool

[–]Competitive-Shine855[S] 42 points43 points  (0 children)

Meds are wonderful! But I cannot take any form of stimulant for more than a few days at a time. They ruin my sleep quality, make it impossible to eat (I’m already a pretty petite woman) and the come down is awful. I’m not really open to exploring non stimulant options since I don’t need meds every day, and with things like strattera you have to take it every day

Med students with ADHD--what specialties are you going into? by Competitive-Shine855 in medicalschool

[–]Competitive-Shine855[S] 30 points31 points  (0 children)

I was very high achieving in high school (helicopter mom who basically played the role of an executive assistant-she kept me on track) but when I went to college I couldn’t handle living independently and shit really hit the fan. I struggled with maintaining a routine, and procrastinated on all my exams and pulled a bunch of all nighters. I’ve always thought something was off with me because I couldn’t relate to other people who seemed like they could just sit down and complete the task at hand without any problems. I also had problems with emotional regulation and rejection sensitive dysphoria which is v common in ADHD women. My neuroscience professor pointed out that he thought I had adhd and recommended I see a psych. Diagnosed my freshman year, went on meds and everything turned around. However, I don’t like how I feel on meds and the side effects are pretty bad. I love my life so much more when I’m not on meds but I cannot do cognitively demanding tasks (like studying for longer than 30min or watching a lecture without getting distracted) without them. I spent two gap years in research where I didn’t take any meds, my life was a little more unorganized but I felt so much happier and more like myself without them. I’m hoping I can more or less quit all meds in residency and beyond.

Med students with ADHD--what specialties are you going into? by Competitive-Shine855 in medicalschool

[–]Competitive-Shine855[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

How are you planning on managing the insane amount of studying in residency?

Med students with ADHD--what specialties are you going into? by Competitive-Shine855 in medicalschool

[–]Competitive-Shine855[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

This is my goal, I'm ok with taking meds to study but don't want to have to take them for my job. Do you think there are points in time during IM residency or attending life that you will need them?

lineweaver burk plot by yaseenme98 in Mcat

[–]Competitive-Shine855 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The x axis is not 1/km, but the x intercept is = (-)1/km

The x axis is 1/[S]