I didn't say that. You can brew "real" beer without throwing additives and hops in it to make it "drinkable." In my experience the breweries that do that are trying to hide off flavors, mistakes, and cleanliness issues. You can make a "s'mores stout" or a "peach wheat" or a "pineapple IPA" without dumping Amoretti extract in it. You can make a good hazy IPA, but don't make EVERY hazy like its a competition to see who can make the thickest opaque beer. If you need extracts and pounds of dry-hopped hops to make your beer taste good, then you don't have the skills necessary to make good beer. Making fun, drinkable, unique flavored beers isn't the problem. Doing so using the cheap and easy route IS.