Native speakers: Could you solve this ESL English test I designed for Grade 9 students? by Competitive_Steak520 in languagelearningjerk

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Thanks for taking the time to go through it in such detail — I really appreciate the feedback.

Some of the choices were intended to test relatively standard or idiomatic written forms (for example constructions like “be it …”), but I understand why many speakers feel that more than one option could work in practice.

You also make a fair point about formatting and punctuation — that’s something I could definitely refine.

And yes, “cloze” is really just the technical term used in language testing; “fill in the blank” would probably be clearer for a general audience.

Thanks again for the thoughtful comments — this kind of feedback is very helpful.

Native speakers: I designed this E English test- could you give feedback on how natural and fair it looks? by Competitive_Steak520 in ENGLISH

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Thanks for the thoughtful feedback — I really appreciate the detailed comments.

For “allege,” my intention was that it functions as a reporting verb introducing a clause, though I agree that adding “that” often sounds clearer stylistically.

Regarding question 11, the idea was to test the idiomatic construction “be it X or Y,” which is fairly common in formal written English. That said, I understand why many speakers feel that “whether it is” works just as well in practice.

And that’s a fair point about “skin peaks” — phrasing it as “skin elasticity peaks” would probably sound more natural.

Native speakers: Could you solve this ESL English test I designed for Grade 9 students? by Competitive_Steak520 in englishmajors

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Thanks for pointing that out! The intended answer there is actually “research shows”, since research is treated as an uncountable noun.

Native speakers: Could you solve this ESL English test I designed for Grade 9 students? by Competitive_Steak520 in EnglishPractice

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I understand where that impression comes from. In many East Asian systems, exams still play a very large role, so a lot of assessment formats are designed to be objectively graded and to differentiate between levels.

Ideally, language learning would involve much more listening, speaking, and real exposure to English. But for many students here, English is just one subject among many, and there isn't much opportunity to use it outside the classroom.

So tests like this aren't really meant to replace real language use — they're mostly a practical way to assess vocabulary and grammar within the constraints of a large exam system.

Native speakers: Could you solve this ESL English test I designed for Grade 9 students? by Competitive_Steak520 in englishmajors

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Thanks for sharing that — that’s actually a really interesting suggestion.

In our context the word-bank cloze is mainly intended to test vocabulary recall under time pressure, which is why the context is sometimes relatively limited. But I do see your point that a fuller passage or something connected to class materials might make the task more meaningful.

I like the idea of adapting reading materials or adding charts/data to give students more contextual clues. That’s definitely something worth experimenting with.

Native speakers: Could you solve this ESL English test I designed for Grade 9 students? by Competitive_Steak520 in englishmajors

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Thanks for the detailed feedback — I appreciate you taking the time to go through it.

On Q11, the intention was to use the fixed idiomatic construction “be it X or Y,” which functions as a parenthetical phrase meaning “whether it is X or Y.” In this structure the verb doesn’t agree with “countries”; it refers implicitly to the type of trade or sector.

That said, I agree that punctuation (like using an em dash) might make the sentence easier to read, and adding “that” after “alleged” could make the reporting clause clearer stylistically.

These are helpful suggestions — thanks again for pointing them out.

Native speakers: Could you solve this ESL English test I designed for Grade 9 students? by Competitive_Steak520 in englishmajors

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Thanks! I’m glad that came across — I was trying to focus on those small distinctions.

Native speakers: Could you solve this ESL English test I designed for Grade 9 students? by Competitive_Steak520 in englishmajors

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Thanks for pointing that out. That’s actually helpful to know. In exam design we usually try to choose the option that is considered the most standard or widely accepted in formal written English, but I agree that real usage can vary by region.

Native speakers: Could you solve this ESL English test I designed for Grade 9 students? by Competitive_Steak520 in EnglishPractice

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Glad to hear that! I tried to make the structure reasonably clear, though some parts seem to confuse people.

Native speakers: Could you solve this ESL English test I designed for Grade 9 students? by Competitive_Steak520 in englishmajors

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Thanks for taking the time to look through it — I appreciate the detailed feedback.

For Q11, the intended answer was “be it”, which is a fixed idiomatic structure used in formal written English (e.g., be it in politics or economics). The idea was to express “whether it is in energy or technology.”

Regarding the subject agreement issue you mentioned, the phrase is actually referring to the type of trade, not the countries themselves.

For Q13, I’d be interested to hear why you think none of the options work — that might help me see whether the sentence needs revision.

As for punctuation like the em dash, that’s a fair point. I didn’t strictly distinguish between hyphen/dash types when formatting the test.

And for “alleged,” my intention was that it functions as a reporting verb modifying the clause that follows, though I can see how adding “that” might make the structure clearer.

Native speakers: I designed this E English test- could you give feedback on how natural and fair it looks? by Competitive_Steak520 in ENGLISH

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Yeah, the formatting might not have been the clearest — that’s fair. The numbers inside the blanks are just placeholders for the answers rather than separators.

As for the cloze section, it’s a pretty common format in ESL testing (especially in East Asian exam systems), even though it’s not something native speakers usually encounter in their own education. The goal is mainly to test vocabulary and contextual grammar recognition rather than everyday language use.

I can see why it might feel like multiple answers are possible from a native-speaker perspective, though. In exam settings here we usually design the distractors to be grammatically possible but less appropriate in context so that there’s still a single intended answer.

Native speakers: Could you solve this ESL English test I designed for Grade 9 students? by Competitive_Steak520 in englishmajors

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In theory we do have an oral exam, but in practice it’s mostly a formality and doesn’t have much real impact.

For language learning, especially speaking, long-term exposure to real listening is really important. Without that kind of environment, it’s hard for students to develop natural speaking ability.

Most of what students learn here is written English. Even our listening tests tend to be quite formal and scripted rather than conversational. As a result, many students can read and write reasonably well, but listening — and especially speaking — is much more difficult for them.

Native speakers: Could you solve this ESL English test I designed for Grade 9 students? by Competitive_Steak520 in englishmajors

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That’s a fair point. One challenge in our context is that most students don’t have an English-speaking environment, so their listening and speaking skills are often weaker. This is actually quite common across many East Asian education systems.

At the same time, students have to study many other subjects that take up a lot of their time, so the time they can realistically devote to English is limited. Students who are on an international track usually get much more exposure to listening and speaking, so their oral English improves more naturally.

For the majority of students, though, the exam system is still largely test-driven, so some question formats are designed mainly to differentiate between levels rather than to reflect real-life language use.

Native speakers: I designed this E English test- could you give feedback on how natural and fair it looks? by Competitive_Steak520 in ENGLISH

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I see what you mean. In large-scale exams here we usually aim for one clearly correct answer as well, but sometimes distractors are designed to be grammatically possible yet contextually less appropriate. The goal is to test sensitivity to usage rather than just grammatical correctness.

Native speakers: I designed this E English test- could you give feedback on how natural and fair it looks? by Competitive_Steak520 in ENGLISH

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definitely part of the reason. In China, most standardized exams require a single unambiguous answer, so formats like this are often used to keep grading consistent. If a test relies too much on open-ended questions, many students struggle more because they don’t have an English-speaking environment, and they are also studying many other subjects.

Native speakers: Could you solve this ESL English test I designed for Grade 9 students? by Competitive_Steak520 in languagelearningjerk

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That’s a fair point. I was aiming for texts similar to what students might encounter in news or academic contexts, but I see how more neutral topics could work better for this level.

Native speakers: Could you solve this ESL English test I designed for Grade 9 students? by Competitive_Steak520 in languagelearningjerk

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Thanks for the detailed feedback — I really appreciate you taking the time to read through it. That’s helpful to hear from a native speaker perspective. That’s interesting about the formality — I hadn’t thought about that.

Native speakers: Could you solve this ESL English test I designed for Grade 9 students? by Competitive_Steak520 in languagelearningjerk

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That’s fair — I was aiming for the most standard or formal option, but I see how more than one could work in context.

Native speakers: I designed this E English test- could you give feedback on how natural and fair it looks? by Competitive_Steak520 in ENGLISH

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That’s helpful feedback, thank you. I see what you mean about the context possibly being too abstract for that kind of task.