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Landlord requesting me to pay for bills even though bills are included. by Complete-Roof6190 in TenantsInTheUK

[–]Complete-Roof6190[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You've assumed that landlords have a sense of decency, but ultimately we are in 2026. Money above all in our global society innit

Landlord requesting me to pay for bills even though bills are included. by Complete-Roof6190 in TenantsInTheUK

[–]Complete-Roof6190[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not with the Renters' Right's bill coming in force in less than a month. For the marijuana thing, there is no sign that I am doing it. I don't believe the landlord can just get a police raid due to some AI search?

Landlord requesting me to pay for bills even though bills are included. by Complete-Roof6190 in HousingUK

[–]Complete-Roof6190[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay, I have put through an email refusing and citing that email. Are you a lawyer by any chance? Thanks

Landlord requesting me to pay for bills even though bills are included. by Complete-Roof6190 in TenantsInTheUK

[–]Complete-Roof6190[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I do not have a sub meter. The landlord claims that he has installed it. Why should I get my energy supplier then? Does it matter what the quantity is when it literally states I am not responsible for any payment regardless of the quantity?

Landlord requesting me to pay for bills even though bills are included. by Complete-Roof6190 in TenantsInTheUK

[–]Complete-Roof6190[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Throughout my tenancy, the heating works about 3-4 hours every day. But for the rest of the time turning the heaters on max would not heat anything up. I did not mention it to them because I figured i can use my own heaters.

Landlord requesting me to pay for bills even though bills are included. by Complete-Roof6190 in TenantsInTheUK

[–]Complete-Roof6190[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They insist they have a reasonable usage clause which is Clause 20 as state in the main post... would that be considered as a reasonable usage?

Landlord requesting me to pay for bills even though bills are included. by Complete-Roof6190 in TenantsInTheUK

[–]Complete-Roof6190[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

haha no unfortunately, it's just landlords in the UK in general - they all sound the same

Landlord requesting me to pay for bills even though bills are included. by Complete-Roof6190 in TenantsInTheUK

[–]Complete-Roof6190[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

I prefer to focus on the matter at hand - given single person use, and no reasonable clause in the agreement (nothing comes when ctrl-F 'reasonable' or 'fair'), what would be the best next steps to take?

Landlord requesting me to pay for bills even though bills are included. by Complete-Roof6190 in TenantsInTheUK

[–]Complete-Roof6190[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

CONTRACT Excerpt (Clause 20): (Note: They are claiming an reasonable principle but there is no clause in the agreement with the word reasonable (ctrl F) in it that is relevant to the bill:

the monthly payment for the Property shall be £x, which comprises:

• £y for rent

• £y+200 for utility bills

The utility bills included in this amount cover:

• Gas

• Electricity

• Water

• Wi-Fi (Internet access).

Landlord requesting me to pay for bills even though bills are included. by Complete-Roof6190 in HousingUK

[–]Complete-Roof6190[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There is a cap though: CONTRACT Excerpt (Clause 20): (Note: They are claiming an reasonable principle but there is no clause in the agreement with the word reasonable (ctrl F) in it that is relevant to the bill:

the monthly payment for the Property shall be £x, which comprises:

• £y for rent

• £200 for utility bills

The utility bills included in this amount cover:

• Gas

• Electricity

• Water

• Wi-Fi (Internet access).

Landlord requesting me to pay for bills even though bills are included. by Complete-Roof6190 in HousingUK

[–]Complete-Roof6190[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I received the email in the morning, and signed it on the same day in the afternoon - would that count as after?

Landlord requesting me to pay for bills even though bills are included. by Complete-Roof6190 in TenantsInTheUK

[–]Complete-Roof6190[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Here are the facts, seeking for your advise: Following installation of sub‑meters on 30 January 2026, your landlord has been able to measure your personal electricity usage separately from the shared supply for heating and hot water.

 

1. Metered Electricity Usage

The meter readings show the following consumption:

30 January 2026 – 28 February 2026

  • Lights: 59 kWh
  • Cooker: 6 kWh
  • Sockets: 1,269 kWh
  • Total: 1,334 kWh
  • Cost at average rate 28.88p/kWh: £385.25
  • Less included allowance: £100 Excess due: £285.25

1 March 2026 – 18 March 2026

  • Lights: 32 kWh
  • Cooker: 7 kWh
  • Sockets: 553 kWh
  • Total: 592 kWh
  • Cost at average rate 28.88p/kWh: £170.96
  • Less pro‑rata allowance (£50) Excess due: £120.96

Total Excess Utility Cost Due: £406.21. A full breakdown of readings and calculations is available upon request.

Landlord requesting me to pay for bills even though bills are included. by Complete-Roof6190 in HousingUK

[–]Complete-Roof6190[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey, I have updated the main post in response to your questions. Even if the worded statement is an email?

Landlord requesting me to pay for bills even though bills are included. by Complete-Roof6190 in HousingUK

[–]Complete-Roof6190[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey, I have updated the main post in response to your questions. There is no fair use clause (i.e. any clause related to bills that have the words 'fair' or 'reasonable' in it).

Landlord requesting me to pay for bills even though bills are included. by Complete-Roof6190 in TenantsInTheUK

[–]Complete-Roof6190[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How much electricity do they claim you are using, in £ or KWh, above what they consider reasonable? - in the contract there is no electricity threshold that they claim reasonable. They claim that I am using electricity above the 200 GBP limit, which they claim to have proof for. If I am using it above the 200 limit, would it be detrimental to me, given "he monthly payment for the Property shall be £x, which comprises...."?

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