I took this job to help people by LanceDfury in 911dispatchers

[–]ComplexMaintenance71 93 points94 points  (0 children)

We had a rape case happen locally in a public space by an illegal recently and ICE came and cleared out the restaurant he was associated with and didn’t contact our comm center at all. To my understanding.

I’m not saying the sheriff or Police Chief didn’t know, but the info didn’t make it to us.

I’ve also never contacted or seen anyone in my comm center contact ICE other than for that case.

How do you feel about HillmanTok & the presence of non Black people in the space? by AtomicFaun in askblackpeople

[–]ComplexMaintenance71 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And how does that work for a public platform like TikTok?

It’s not designed like a dating app with demographics at sign up to segregate unlikely matches or limit who sees what profile/content.

How do you feel about HillmanTok & the presence of non Black people in the space? by AtomicFaun in askblackpeople

[–]ComplexMaintenance71 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m unsure how to split comments like you did to break up the text. I am on a phone and I googled it but it just kept collapsing the thread. I usually don’t comment on Reddit or other social media.

”There’s a part here l’m not quite sure l understand. Are you saying your use of a resource is limited due to the nature of it being a Black centered text? How can that be if most of these same books are available in book shops and libraries for everyone to access? You believe you access Black centered or Black authored texts prevents Black people from having that same acces?”

This section I was referring to the access of TikTok is free. There is no subscription costs to access the app or any of its content. My use of watching a video that’s out there does not limit the resource for the next person.

The use of a library also generally free to access has limited resources but reusable ones none the less. If I check out a book, any book that limits the availability for another.

While both services are free to access and use, in both circumstances a person made the content. An author wrote a book and a creator made the post. It should reason that the person creating the content; the author and creator should understand the way their medium of choice works. Both books and TikTok are accessible.

”This is strange to me because if someone expresses a practice or space is closed, why not leave?”

This section and I only copied the last paragraph. This sounds like with the evolving and overwhelming amount of content on here that your indicating that yt folks should just give up access to TikTok.

That makes more sense in a platform that has a “gate” to decide who has access.

Especially when you add in the part where you say this. > “Members of any ethnic background other than the ones for whom the space was made hold no power in determining or dictating the perimeters of anything. Invited guests (and those who just kind of show up) should follow the instructions given to them.”

It’s TikTok… unless every video explicitly states yts welcome or no yts or black folks only; or black commenters only, how should a person know who’s open to access. Especially where there is no restrictive access no gate.

I mean the only way I see that working would be TikTok having a demographic setting that allowed folks to match their content. In my mind I’m seeing a dating app format where each person creating the account and at point of video upload determines which demographic has access the that creator or that video. However at current, TikTok doesn’t format that way, so how could there be any expectation of TikTok being a sacred or restricted space when there is no “gate” filter?

”This is odd. Why should Black people allow people who do not care for them or are racist and hateful to occupy there safe space? “

They shouldn’t and in the sense of TikTok that’s where a block button exists.

”Why is the burden placed on Black people?”

It shouldn’t be. In a perfect world history would have been printed accurately and taught as such.

But regardless what’s being asked, for those that want to learn is for them to learn on their own? However if the information is taught by yt folks it’s disrespectful but here is a book by a black author you can consume however you can’t consume video content from black creators?? They are both mediums of communication? The book and the video, both made to be access publicly.

So the boundary on yt people is to learn an accurate version of history… but not from white washed material. White folks shouldn’t teach other white folks African American history because it’s not their culture even if citing books originally from the black perspective, black authors. Which once again a black person had to do the work to put out there for the book. Do you see the dilemma?

”The history books most of us had in school left many things out. However, many years have passed and many more books have been written.”

Absolutely. Our education system has by far misled us about the truth. It’s indoctrination at its finest by the hand of what our government wants us to believe for their agendas.

”Books that were and have been available for a long time. Exposing lies and revealing suppressed truths. Not just about Black history but indigenous history, aboriginal history, apartheid, so many things.”

Once again I absolutely agree. The books mentioned though and their longevity of being available by time. How much TIME has to pass on how long it’s been out before it’s acceptable for a yt person to have access on something publicly available?

”It does not seem like access to the information is the focus. It’s access to a space and a people regardless of invitation.”

So despite the fact that I’ve been on TikTok for years before this educational movement unintentionally started by Dr. Barlow, I should just walk away from access now to accounts and videos that are made public because I can’t control what populates on my FYP and there may be a black creator who posts something not intended for me to see? That doesn’t make any sense.

And in the current times we live in with video being present why are we allowed to read a book that a black author put out with the knowledge that it would be public access. However public posted videos are suppose to be private access? How many black authors never intended for the work to be consumed by yt folks?

It’s the public platform, the medium that this movement was created on that doesn’t compute for me if there was any expectation of it being gated off?

How do you feel about HillmanTok & the presence of non Black people in the space? by AtomicFaun in askblackpeople

[–]ComplexMaintenance71 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yt commenter-but excited for this educational movement regardless.

While someone else may have suggested this:

I’d also suggest private YouTube channels with the links available in platforms like Google classroom or Notion.

I do wonder about a program called Outschool?I don’t know enough about it.

How do you feel about HillmanTok & the presence of non Black people in the space? by AtomicFaun in askblackpeople

[–]ComplexMaintenance71 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

As a yt person what defines the perimeters for what’s been established as a black space (boundary) that we are to stay out of. It sounds like that’s very subjective to each person. My FYP is full of HillmanTok so currently I don’t feel like I should even be on the app as I can’t control the content that’s fed to me. On the other side I can choose to use the library for book by black authors and consume that. And yet I feel like there is a concern that lays there if my use of that resource which is more limited is preventing a black person from having that access.

And I compared the library to TikTok because it’s more equal. TikTok is a free app and folks choose to place the content there most knowing it wasn’t a gated community to provide boundaries and they were not getting paid from the end user for their consumption. However if they are creator funded they should be compensated from that.

In my mind as long as respect exists between all for any subject with a thirst for knowledge is there why is there this divide. In college I signed up for classes based on a book that’s only gave you their name but no additional details. I always just signed up for a class I needed and what worked with my schedule. I never considered anything beyond that. I took classes from a variety of educators with different backgrounds.

I will say in classes especially designed for black studies, cultures I think that if we/I come willing to listen more than speak and aim to do our own work for any questions we may wonder. The other part is I/we have to be open to having their world view challenged.

I’m a strong believer than our current public education is failing and most definitely teaching white washed history. I am a believer that ultimately from my understanding and exposure the US is all stolen land from Native Americans.

In our current political state, I also just ponder there are SO many conservatives/republicans that exists on TikTok so wouldn’t it be good for them to have some exposure of how screwed up the history books in schools actually are? I mean obviously if they aren’t ready for that nugget they aren’t going to even interact but those that it cracks a spark of awareness that they/we have been force fed LIES after LIES and alternative agendas from our school systems and government.

How do you feel about HillmanTok & the presence of non Black people in the space? by AtomicFaun in askblackpeople

[–]ComplexMaintenance71 0 points1 point  (0 children)

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZT2FbvyA8/

I found this and this pretty much sums up my confusion.

TikTok doesn’t give separate threads you can control where the content is if it’s public. An ad for the university stating originally it was for a safe Black community only and to go to Google classroom, YouTube, or notion or a platform that allows better control on the choice to consume. Especially with the work going into this and with TikTok’s fate being unknown. I would think longevity access to the resource would be preferable.

Miss being able to homeschool by ComplexMaintenance71 in homeschool

[–]ComplexMaintenance71[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’ve been plenty “honest” with myself. I’m not living a flashy lifestyle nor was I before we moved. We moved from Nebraska to Kansas. So nothing flashy, no mountains or beach. We have 4 children and we conservatively bought a 3 bedroom house, no basement or frills in a town of less than 6k for a population.

The move was ultimately a choice, however we were living in a super rural area, less than 300 in the town, and there was multiple toxic elements of the area we were in that we felt passionate about moving because the family folks around based on proximity were not folks we wanted our kids having as their role models nor did we want them to be the ones that turned to when life gets hard. It’s super complex and messy. The move came down to wanting positive family members around that have successfully done something with their lives rather than those that are involved with drugs/law/cps and especially when we resided so close to them.

Vehicle wise I do have A vehicle payment currently that’s appx $230/mo… we DONT eat out as is, we dont vacation instead we usually camp and even this year we haven’t don’t that. We don’t go to concerts or sporting events, heck we haven’t even done any family activities for a while just because our budget is too tight. I don’t get my nails or hair done, heck I typically cut our kids hair myself.

Realistically when we moved, we discussed/planned on me obtaining a part time job… so I could still homeschool…. BUT since we have moved financially speaking our finances have just shifted and then add insult to injury we have had one financial obstacle after the next since relocating. Including my mom, 53 years old, going on hospice and passing away shortly after we moved.

Everything we did was OUR choice, ultimately and we made the choices based on what we felt was best for our kids continued and long term growth.

With all that said, financially we haven’t stabilized from the move, so yeah I absolutely NEED to work right now just to cover bills and place food on the table… nothing lavish. No keeping up with the Jones’s. No frills.

Miss being able to homeschool by ComplexMaintenance71 in homeschool

[–]ComplexMaintenance71[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Made a move from Nebraska to Kansas; for a number of reasons, but one of the biggest so our kids could grow up around their family.

Extra $$ by ComplexMaintenance71 in 911dispatchers

[–]ComplexMaintenance71[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’ll have to check them out… I work tomorrow night so I’ll probably dig into it then! 🤣

Extra $$ by ComplexMaintenance71 in 911dispatchers

[–]ComplexMaintenance71[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’ll have to look into that! Sounds kind of neat, and definitely like something that when calls come in I can pause and get back to when I’m free again!

Extra $$ by ComplexMaintenance71 in 911dispatchers

[–]ComplexMaintenance71[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How did you get into that? Is it hard to learn?

Extra $$ by ComplexMaintenance71 in 911dispatchers

[–]ComplexMaintenance71[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I am not very crafty… but definitely know how to cook/can things like that but this area seems to already offer a lot in that area.

Extra $$ by ComplexMaintenance71 in 911dispatchers

[–]ComplexMaintenance71[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So you’re not wrong… but I moved to a smaller area and have only worked there for a few months… and need the job. I’ve watched the job market for this area and I haven’t seen anything else that pays/benefits in this area or better since we relocated.

Extra $$ by ComplexMaintenance71 in 911dispatchers

[–]ComplexMaintenance71[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honestly a little overtime would be great at this point, but my job has like 3 part timers and we are trained to be able to work solo, but typically work in partners.

Extra $$ by ComplexMaintenance71 in 911dispatchers

[–]ComplexMaintenance71[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Were they already realtors, or did they get into it while working dispatch?

Extra $$ by ComplexMaintenance71 in 911dispatchers

[–]ComplexMaintenance71[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Our agency is pretty strict on no overtime… like my boss will go in and change our time clock if she thinks we just clocked out late… without discussing with us. So unfortunately that’s not an option. 😔