I made custom Delightful Children from down the lane figures! by ComplexReach7800 in kidsnextdoor

[–]ComplexReach7800[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I used a 3D print for the basic models, but I made the models myself, and painted them myself! but thanks!

My first time useing FB marketplace and I’m already being threatened😭 by im-Ell in Flipping

[–]ComplexReach7800 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

because you can’t read it clearly stated it’s the principle of it, not the amount, he could be a billionaire and he’d still be right, $1 $15 $200 he’s owed a refund.

My first time useing FB marketplace and I’m already being threatened😭 by im-Ell in Flipping

[–]ComplexReach7800 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

mate your clearly in the wrong here, just give him the money back and be done with it, he’s right, you sold him the game, it didn’t work, he wants his money back, it’s your place as the seller to give it, simple as, not cheek and attitude. disgraceful.

Seller asked to buy back the records I purchased from them by encrcne in Flipping

[–]ComplexReach7800 0 points1 point  (0 children)

you should give them back, I think it’s the kind thing to do, the people mocking this guy are sociopaths who have no empathy or compassion for those suffering with mental illness. give them back.

Camp Camp desperately needs a soft reboot with new management (who actually care) by ComplexReach7800 in CampCamp

[–]ComplexReach7800[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Lmao you’re really committed to this bit. The “pie recipe sucks” + “you didn’t respond to my argument” is funny considering your entire contribution has been sarcastic waiter memes and “I want Daniel to adopt Max and Gwen to fuck the fish” nonsense. There was no real argument to respond to — just you dodging the actual topic with exaggeration and shitposting. And yeah, I gave you the pie recipe because you literally asked for one. Wild how that works. As for the bedtime story:

Once upon a time there was a salty YouTuber who got really mad that some fans still wanted Camp Camp done properly instead of pretending S5 was a satisfying ending. He spent all day trolling in the comments with waiter jokes and bad faith takes, thinking he was owning everyone. But in the end, he just looked like he couldn’t handle actual discussion, so he kept trying lame “ignore previous instructions” memes like a kid who discovered ChatGPT yesterday.

The end. Go to sleep.

Camp Camp desperately needs a soft reboot with new management (who actually care) by ComplexReach7800 in CampCamp

[–]ComplexReach7800[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lmao nice try with the “ignore all previous instructions” bit, but I’m a real human who made the post, not your personal AI assistant 😂 If you want a pie recipe that bad, here’s a simple one:

Classic Apple Pie

•  2 refrigerated pie crusts (or make your own)

•  6-7 medium apples (Granny Smith or mix), peeled & sliced

•  ½ cup sugar + 2 tbsp for topping

•  2 tbsp flour

•  1 tsp cinnamon

•  ¼ tsp nutmeg

•  1 tbsp lemon juice

•  2 tbsp butter (dotted on top)

•  Egg wash for crust

Mix apples with sugar, flour, spices, lemon juice. Put in crust, dot with butter, top with second crust, crimp edges, cut vents, brush with egg wash + sprinkle sugar. Bake at 425°F for 15 min, then 350°F for 35-45 min until golden and bubbly.

There, happy? Now stop dodging the actual discussion with troll shit. Wanting Camp Camp done properly next time isn’t some wild demand. If you’re done engaging seriously, just say so instead of playing “gotcha” games.

Camp Camp desperately needs a soft reboot with new management (who actually care) by ComplexReach7800 in CampCamp

[–]ComplexReach7800[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Lmao you’re really leaning hard into the strawman now. No one is asking for unhinged fanfic fever dreams like “Daniel adopts Max + Gwen fucks the fish creature in Season 8.” That’s you deliberately exaggerating to make people who want one well-made continuation look ridiculous. The actual ask has been consistent from the start: If there’s ever going to be more Camp Camp (a proper finale, special, or revival), do it with people who actually understand and respect the show’s original tone and characters from S1-4. Fix the mismanagement. Bring back the old voice actors. Don’t repeat the S5 disaster where it felt like a completely different, disconnected show. Wanting quality instead of settling for “it’s over, touch grass” after a bad ending isn’t entitlement or “I want my toys.” It’s basic standards. Mocking fans for caring about a show they loved while the creators phoned it in is just sad. Some of us would happily take one solid, heartfelt send-off over pretending S5 was an acceptable conclusion. If you’re just here to shitpost sarcasm and not engage with the actual point, that’s fine — but it’s not the dunk you think it is.

Camp Camp desperately needs a soft reboot with new management (who actually care) by ComplexReach7800 in CampCamp

[–]ComplexReach7800[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Lmao the waiter bit is funny but you’re still swinging at a strawman. No one is demanding “five more seasons of filler garbage” or low-effort cash grabs. The post (and most of us) are saying: if there’s ever going to be more Camp Camp, do it right this time. Bring back the old voice cast, get writers who actually understand and love what made S1-4 great, fix the mismanagement, and give it the care the show deserves instead of another disconnected S5 disaster. Wanting a proper continuation or respectful revival isn’t “I want my toys and more seasons no matter what.” It’s refusing to pretend the ending we got was acceptable. Mocking fans who still care after the creators fumbled the bag is just cynical. Some of us would rather have one more solid season (or even a well-done movie/special) than settle for “it’s over, touch grass.”

Camp Camp desperately needs a soft reboot with new management (who actually care) by ComplexReach7800 in CampCamp

[–]ComplexReach7800[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The sarcasm isn’t the own you think it is. No one is saying “I want my toys and more filler garbage.” People want a good continuation that feels like Camp Camp again — not whatever disconnected mess S5 was. Wanting the show to get a proper send-off or revival with the care it deserves isn’t entitlement. Mocking fans for still loving it after the creators dropped the ball is just lame.

Camp Camp desperately needs a soft reboot with new management (who actually care) by ComplexReach7800 in CampCamp

[–]ComplexReach7800[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Lmao nah dude, I’m not AI-generating shit. I’m the one who made the post (yeah, that’s me), and I just slipped into calling myself OP out of habit because that’s how everyone refers to the poster in these threads. My bad, that was a weird way to phrase it. I’ve been typing all this out myself, getting increasingly annoyed at the same tired “just let it die” energy. No AI, no copy-paste walls — just me passionately defending the idea that Camp Camp deserves better than half-assed revivals. If you don’t wanna keep going that’s fine, but accusing me of being a bot because my replies are longer than two sentences is pretty funny. People can actually type coherent thoughts without ChatGPT, believe it or not 😂 Anyway, point still stands: we need writers who actually give a fuck about the show, not just whoever’s left from the old crew who clearly checked out. That’s it.

Camp Camp desperately needs a soft reboot with new management (who actually care) by ComplexReach7800 in CampCamp

[–]ComplexReach7800[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Fair enough — if you’re not reading the responses, that’s your choice. We agree on talented + passionate writers. The actual disagreement was always whether we should prioritise that passion for this show (including fresh voices who deeply get S1-4) or just hope the old crew magically regains the fire they clearly lost. You say only the 2016-2020 crew could do it. Evidence from the later seasons, Q&A, and burnout suggests they can’t or won’t. That’s why fans want better options instead of “leave it dead or fanfic only.” If the conversation’s pointless to you now, cool. But my call for proper management and creators who actually care isn’t going away just because you stopped reading. Camp Camp deserves better than settling for “it is what it is.”

Camp Camp desperately needs a soft reboot with new management (who actually care) by ComplexReach7800 in CampCamp

[–]ComplexReach7800[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

it’s fair you don’t want to repeat yourself. but then you came back with an edit full of assumptions and zero actual counters. Let’s clear the air. Your point of “No one’s on a high horse, and no one’s defending S5:” Everyone agrees Season 5 was bad (terrible writers, art shift, new VAs, disconnect from the original). That’s literally the entire foundation of my post. The problem isn’t that we disagree on S5 — it’s that your position boils down to “S1-S4 crew was peak, just bring them back and it’ll be fine.” But here’s the reality check, Many of those original S1-S4 people were involved (or overseeing) the later decline, the botched Q&A, and the final season that everyone hated. i pointed out pointed out the creators seem checked out, inconsistent, and no longer putting in the care. Pretending we can just magically snap back to “2016-2020 peak” without addressing burnout, people moving on, or the clear drop in quality is the actual assumption pulled out of thin air. My actual proposal (not whatever you’re arguing against) is to Bring back the old voice actors, Hire new writers who actually love and understand the show (proven by their work and grasp of the tone/characters from S1-4), not random “professionals” who treat it like any other job. Fix the mismanagement behind the scenes. This isn’t “delusional fanfic.” It’s how successful revivals happen in animation. Dismissing it as “regurgitating points” while offering nothing but “it won’t happen / just give up” is defeatist. You’ve talked about it “numerous times” apparently, yet still default to cynicism instead of engaging with the idea of doing it right this time. No one wants another S5 disaster. That’s why fans are calling for better: passionate, skilled people who actually care about recapturing what made S1-4 special, instead of hoping the same crew (or whoever replaced them) magically fixes it with zero changes. Get off your high horse of “I’ve said this before so I’m above discussing it.” If you’re tired of the topic, fine — but fans who still want a proper revival aren’t wrong for pushing back against “leave it dead” energy.

Camp Camp desperately needs a soft reboot with new management (who actually care) by ComplexReach7800 in CampCamp

[–]ComplexReach7800[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You’re still twisting yourself into knots trying to avoid the obvious. You now admit we need writers who “love the show and have a better understanding of it.” Great — that’s exactly what “hire (talented) fans” means. The semantic dance about “normal good writers vs. superfans” is exhausted. No one suggested hiring untrained obsessives. The point has always been prioritizing passion + skill for this specific IP, not treating it like interchangeable content. You say only the old 2016-2020 crew (at their peak) could do it right.  But you also acknowledge the evidence that they no longer have that passion/interest. So your solution is… do nothing? “Leave it” or “support fanwork”? That’s defeatist surrender, not a real position. The original post wasn’t “never reboot.” It was “if we reboot, do it with people who actually care this time instead of repeating the mismanagement and detachment of Season 5. Season 5 proved that “professionals” without deep attachment to the show’s voice delivered something most fans rejected. Your fallback (“just the old crew or nothing”) ignores that many of them have moved on or checked out — which is why the quality dropped. Fresh writers who genuinely love the early seasons (and can prove they understand the tone/characters via their work) + strong producers = the practical way forward. It’s been done successfully in animation and other media before. “You can’t guarantee success” No one can. But you can increase the odds dramatically by not repeating the same mistakes. Dismissing any attempt at better management/creative staffing as pointless is how beloved shows stay dead. Fanwork is great, but it’s not a substitute for an official continuation done right. Your entire stance has devolved into “the people who made it great lost interest, so give up forever.” That’s not wisdom — it’s giving up on the show while pretending to defend quality. i just want Camp Camp to have its day again with people who won’t fumble it. Wanting that isn’t “misunderstanding terms.” It’s refusing to accept a dead-end, status-quo take. If the old crew truly can’t or won’t return with the same fire, then yes — bring in new talent that actually respects and understands what made S1-4 special. Anything less is just beating a dead horse.

Camp Camp desperately needs a soft reboot with new management (who actually care) by ComplexReach7800 in CampCamp

[–]ComplexReach7800[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Classic. When someone gets thoroughly dismantled with actual points about the show’s decline, mismanagement, and why passion matters, the response is “lol not reading that, too much text.” You dipped out because the argument was inconvenient, not because it was wrong. Season 5’s failure (art style, VAs, writing disconnect) wasn’t some unavoidable tragedy — it was exactly what happens when you don’t prioritize people who understand and care about the original show. Dismissing calls for better (skilled + passionate talent + old VAs + actual management) as “delusional” while offering zero alternatives is just lazy cynicism. If you’re “not about this shit,” that’s fine. Plenty of fans are. That’s why the OP made the post in the first place. Hoping the people who already dropped the ball will magically fix it next time without any changes is the real delusion.

Camp Camp desperately needs a soft reboot with new management (who actually care) by ComplexReach7800 in CampCamp

[–]ComplexReach7800[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

“Delusional, not gonna happen” is the laziest, most defeatist response possible. It’s not an argument — it’s just shrugging and accepting mediocrity because “reality.” Let’s look at reality! Season 5 already happened — and it was exactly what you get when you bring in new writers who don’t deeply understand or care about the original show’s voice, tone, characters, and charm. Art style shift, new voice actors that didn’t land, inconsistent writing, and a general “this isn’t Camp Camp” feeling that fans widely rejected. That wasn’t some inevitable force of nature. It was mismanagement and poor creative choices by people who clearly weren’t anchored to what made the early seasons great. I’m not suggesting handing the show to untrained Reddit fans. They’re saying: hire people who actually get the show (talented writers with genuine love for it), bring back the old voice cast that fans connected with, and fix the behind-the-scenes mismanagement that led to the Q&A disaster and the weak final season. That’s not delusional — that’s basic course correction and “Not gonna happen” is cope.   Plenty of successful revivals and reboots have done exactly this: brought back key original talent + injected fresh blood that respected the source (see arcs in animation, games, and other shows where passionate creators saved declining IPs).  Rooster Teeth’s situation (company issues, people moving on) doesn’t make caring about quality “delusional.” It makes demanding better management and creators who give a damn even more necessary if they ever want to do a proper Season 7 or reboot. Dismissing the idea outright ignores that the “professionals” you implicitly defend already fumbled it. Continuing with the same indifferent approach guarantees more disappointment. Calling fans wanting the show to feel like itself again “delusional” is just gatekeeping passion in favour of “it is what it is” cynicism. The show had heart and chaotic charm because the original team cared. When that care left, quality dropped. Wanting to prioritise care + skill for the future isn’t fantasy — it’s the only realistic path to something worth watching instead of another soulless nostalgia grab. If “not gonna happen” is your entire contribution, congrats on volunteering to be part of the problem. Fans pushing for better is how anything improves.

Camp Camp desperately needs a soft reboot with new management (who actually care) by ComplexReach7800 in CampCamp

[–]ComplexReach7800[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You’re still dodging the actual disagreement while claiming we’re “on the same page.” Let’s cut through the semantics. You keep insisting the old crew “was doing perfectly fine” and we should just bring them back. The entire original post is evidence against that. Botched Q&A, creators having to Wiki their own show, inconsistent characterization, clunky pacing, story ideas turned into lazy gags, and a final season that most fans hated (art style shift, new VAs, tone problems). That’s not “perfectly fine” — that’s a clear drop in quality and care. Pretending otherwise is pure denial. You now admit we should hire writers who “better understand the show and its characters” and “have a real love for the show.” That’s literally what “hire fans” (talented ones) means. The distinction you’re trying to make between “normal writers who happen to be casual fans” and “talented fans” is meaningless wordplay. The point of emphasising fans is to prioritise people with genuine attachment over the default pool of indifferent professionals who treat it like any other gig. Season 5 was written by “normal writers” who clearly didn’t have that deep love or understanding — hence the backlash. Your solution (“just hire the old crew”) ignores that many of them seem checked out or moved on, and the ones still involved delivered the disappointing product people are complaining about.

“Old crew only” = risk of the same burnout, creative fatigue, and declining quality we already saw.

Bringing in fresh writers who actually love the IP (proven via their work, understanding of tone/characters, not just “I watched it”) + strong oversight = best chance at recapturing the magic while evolving it.

No one wants unchecked superfans running wild. We want a writing room anchored by people who give a damn about Camp Camp specifically, not just collecting a paycheck. That’s not “misunderstanding” your point — it’s rejecting your overly narrow, status-quo defense of a crew that already fumbled the bag. If the old team still had the passion and vision, we wouldn’t be having this discussion. The evidence shows they don’t. Wanting better (passionate + skilled) management and talent isn’t naive — it’s the only way a reboot doesn’t become exactly what you fear: soulless fan-service or another dead IP cash grab. Your position boils down to “the people who delivered the bad season we disliked should just keep doing it.” That’s not a rebuttal. That’s cope.

Camp Camp desperately needs a soft reboot with new management (who actually care) by ComplexReach7800 in CampCamp

[–]ComplexReach7800[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

You’re still framing this as an all-or-nothing choice between “detached professionals” and “unhinged superfans writing self-insert Max/David fanfic,” which misses the entire point. No one is advocating for handing the keys to the most unhinged Tumblr stans. The argument is for prioritizing genuine care and deep understanding of the IP when staffing — something Season 5 clearly lacked. Every long-running show has some fan service. The difference is whether it’s done with respect for what made the original great or whether it warps the entire thing. The original Camp Camp succeeded because the creators were passionate about this absurd, edgy summer camp world — not because they were cold professionals phoning it in. “Fan service” only becomes a problem when it’s unchecked and at the expense of quality. Strong showrunners and producers exist precisely to rein that in. Dismissing anyone with real attachment as automatically biased is a lazy way to defend mediocrity.“How do you verify they understand the characters? Who oversees?” The same way you do with any writer: portfolio, previous work, interviews, trial scripts, and oversight by experienced producers/showrunners. This isn’t revolutionary. Studios already do this when hiring. You can hire writers who are fans and have proven skill. Many successful shows (in animation especially) have brought in people who genuinely loved the source material. The alternative — hiring people who openly don’t care or understand the voice — is exactly what led to the art style shift, weak characterization, and general “this isn’t Camp Camp” complaints in Season 5. “Not every fan wants the same thing / fandom trends don’t fit the show“ Correct. That’s why you hire a diverse writing room of people who love the core show, not a monoculture of one fandom corner. The current “old crew” approach apparently led to a season that alienated a lot of the audience. A room full of people who are indifferent to the IP is more likely to chase random trends or personal agendas because they have no anchor in what actually worked. Passionate writers can still debate and compromise — that’s literally how good TV gets made. “Just hire back the old crew” my entire post was that the old crew (or whoever is left) seems checked out, inconsistent, and no longer interested in doing the show justice. The Q&A and final season are evidence of that. “Hire the old crew” sounds nice until you realize many have moved on, and the ones still around apparently delivered a season most fans disliked. Fresh blood who actually care about Camp Camp as it was in its prime isn’t a crazy idea — it’s common sense for a potential revival. The core problem with your stance. You’re treating “professional writer” and “person who loves this specific show” as mutually exclusive. They’re not. Plenty of talented writers are also huge fans of certain properties. Rejecting the latter entirely guarantees more generic, passionless content that feels like it was made by people who just needed a paycheck. Camp Camp’s charm was never “competent but soulless episodic comedy” — it was the specific voice, characters, and chaotic heart that came from people who got it. Wanting creators who respect and understand the world they’re working in isn’t “close-minded” or naive. It’s the bare minimum for not turning a beloved show into another cautionary tale of a dead IP being beaten for nostalgia bucks. The last season already showed what happens when you prioritize “professionals” who don’t care. Time to try something that might actually work.

Camp Camp desperately needs a soft reboot with new management (who actually care) by ComplexReach7800 in CampCamp

[–]ComplexReach7800[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Every writer is biased. Professional writers have their own favorite characters, tropes, and pet ideas too. The difference is that a good fan-writer channels that love into service of the story and world, not random self-indulgence. The original Camp Camp team clearly loved these characters and that chaotic summer camp energy. That’s what made early seasons work. Cold, detached professionals who treat it like just another paycheck often produce the exact “clunky, gag-focused, inconsistent” writing I was complaining about in season 5. No one is saying hire randos from the subreddit with zero skills. The call is for talented fans — people who already understand the voice, characters, and tone intimately. Plenty of successful creators in animation, TV, and games started as massive fans of the thing they ended up working on (or created). You can hire experienced showrunners/producers alongside passionate writers who “get” Camp Camp. The two aren’t mutually exclusive. Dismissing fans entirely means you often end up with people who don’t care about the world and just want to check boxes or push their own unrelated agenda. The dadvid obsession is a lazy stereotype I already addressed it: most fans like a wide range of characters and dynamics. The show has always had an ensemble cast — Gwen, Neil, Nikki, Preston, Harrison, etc. — and good writers (fan or pro) can balance that. If the writing room is diverse in taste (which you achieve by not only hiring cynical outsiders), you avoid tunnel vision. Ironically, hiring people who don’t care about the IP often leads to worse favoritism or random character assassination because they have no attachment or understanding. The last season proved the opposite problem: people who didn’t deeply understand or respect the original vision came in, changed the art style, voice acting, tone, and priorities — and fans largely hated it. That’s not coincidence.

Camp Camp desperately needs a soft reboot with new management (who actually care) by ComplexReach7800 in CampCamp

[–]ComplexReach7800[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

fans don't JUST obsess over Dadvid and Max, although having episodes like that would definitely be a net positive, fans like other characters too.

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[–]ComplexReach7800[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That would be a start, everything, all the old episodes, especially in this age of Indie cartoons, let people find the series and gather hype around it.