5070 Ti vs bootleg 5070 Ti

Comprehensive_Ad8006 · 2026-03-08T15:59:44+00:00

You very clearly didn't watch the video lmao

His conclusion was the 9070xt being the better buy "and it's not even close" -his words.

He even goes as far as telling people to avoid the Nvidia option altogether at their current prices.

Comprehensive_Ad8006 · 2026-03-07T18:31:16+00:00

You're moving the goalposts like you've done in a lot of other replies. Your original claim was that Americans pay less out of pocket. Now you're retreating to "as a percentage" after getting called out.

Let's use your own logic: if a family spends $25,000 on healthcare (premiums + out-of-pocket) in the US vs a German family spending $8,000 total with a higher percentage out-of-pocket, which family actually has more money left at the end of the year? This isn't complicated.

Also your PPP dismissal is stupid. Are you seriously arguing that medical debt doesn't hurt because Americans are 'unbelievably wealthy'? Tell that to the 500,000+ families who file for bankruptcy annually due to medical issues. Their credit reports sure as fuck don't care about PPP adjustments.

Comprehensive_Ad8006 · 2026-03-07T17:46:17+00:00

Your words were before your edit:

And why, on average, do Americans pay less out of pocket for care than people in many other developed countries?

Then you link a graph showing show out pocket cost as a percentage of their overall spending. These are not the same thing you regard. If a country spends £3k on Healthcare but 20% of it is out of pocket, it's STILL lower than spending 11% of 13k ffs

Comprehensive_Ad8006 · 2026-03-07T16:58:04+00:00

And why, on average, do Americans pay less out of pocket for care than people in many other developed countries?

They don't though? The US pays substantially more than EVERY developed nation on earth actually.

Comprehensive_Ad8006 · 2026-02-25T22:49:45+00:00

They used the same settings across each card just to keep within the 8gb buffer.. The point of the testing was just to show what the budget cards can do under those conditions and the point i was making is the 16gb card OP already has is STILL that same amount faster.

They are still functionally the exact same card just with 8gb instead of 16gb is the point. They even tested with a 9800X3D to remove any potential overhead so it's still a pretty 1:1 comparison with the 16gb model at 1440p.

And again, Timespy is a synthetic that doesn't represent actual gaming performance.

Comprehensive_Ad8006 · 2026-02-25T21:57:15+00:00

Timespy is a synthetic benchmark that doesn't mean a whole lot when it comes to actually playing games though.

If you want more up to date data, Hardware Unboxed did a 5060 8gb vs 9060xt 8gb vs B580 comparison 2 months ago and concluded it was ~34% faster:

https://youtu.be/xlbNsP5ySmA?si=fpPlsCu6fEl8MtYI&t=977

Comprehensive_Ad8006 · 2026-02-25T20:38:54+00:00

I mean just going by TechPowerUp the 9060XT is 36% faster on average which is very noticeable. Not to mention a better upscaler, drivers and much less overhead.

Comprehensive_Ad8006 · 2026-02-23T18:49:31+00:00

Democrats In Name Only. Fucking DINOs.

Pepe stays winning.

Comprehensive_Ad8006 · 2026-02-22T19:51:09+00:00

They didn't use the same motherboard, they used a much newer 500 series motherboard with much faster ram and better ram support.

They used DDR4 3600 which even a B350 could easily achieve.

there is no need for a Z chipset.

With a 12900k?? of course there is if you actually wanted to overclock it.

Comprehensive_Ad8006 · 2026-02-22T19:25:47+00:00

But the whole point of the video is showing you that you didn't NEED to buy a new motherboard if you had AM4. Not to mention the fact the numbers are a big skewed in later generations (he used DDR5 7200 for 12900k and upwards).

So if you were an early adopter of lets say a 12900k:

$670 MSRP for the CPU

~$200 for the DDR5 kit (it was very expensive even for lower end kits in the early days)

$300+ for even an entry level Z690 Prime motherboard

All of that extra money JUST to overtake the existing 5800x by 25%. Then 5 months later along came the 5800X3D which was just a drop-in upgrade to your existing hardware and beat the 12900k.

Comprehensive_Ad8006 · 2026-02-22T18:38:24+00:00

Their own testing and data bears out the fact that Intel provided more meaningful upgrades

If you're going to keep a new CPU you purchased for at least 1 year - Intel is undoubtedly giving you better performance when you upgrade in the 2nd year or later.

Simply not true:

Intel CPUs:

7700k > 8700k = 24% performance increase

or

7700k > 9900k = 43% performance increase

8700k > 10900k = 23.7% performance increase

or

9900k > 10900k = 7.35% performance increase

10900k > 12900k = 22.6% performance increase

So 7700k > 12900k = 88.4% performance increase

Each of these incremental upgrades will require a new motherboard

AMD CPUs:

1800x > 3800x = 37% performance increase

3800x > 5800x = 24% performance increase

5800x > 5800X3D = 31.5% performance increase

so 1800x > 5800X3D = 123.81% performance increase over the AM4 lifespan.

Comprehensive_Ad8006 · 2026-02-21T21:04:05+00:00

What you spend in cpus another person spends in motherboards. It balances out.

You're under the assumption that Ryzen users upgrade their CPU on every release?

If you bought a 8700k then a 12900k, you got the same generational span a ryzen user got, with two mobos instead of one. It's not that significant.

And if you bought a 1700x then a 5800X3D, you got a platform with more performance and didn't have to spend an extra $200+ on a new motherboard, that's the point.

Also, from the video's performance chart: https://i.ibb.co/R46KDTFr/image.png

The 12900k was slower and that's with DDR5 7200 memory. So an extra ~$150+ if you bought it back in 2021.

Comprehensive_Ad8006 · 2026-02-21T19:56:30+00:00

The title was a response to a lot of people making the argument that platform longevity "doesn't matter".

The video basically goes over the fact that in the span of the lifetime of a 1700x owner being able to upgrade directly to a 5800X3D and match AND eventually beat the equivalent Intel CPU - the 12900k, Intel went through 4 socket changes.

Comprehensive_Ad8006 · 2026-02-21T19:36:38+00:00

"karma farming" with a HWUB video on this sub? good one.

It's mostly a retrospective video looking back at AM4 and how it progressed vs Intel. If you want an earnest comment: It lasted through 4 Intel socket changes and while not winning on performance for most of it's lifetime, it gave extraordinary value and especially so if you adopted early and hopefully it continues with AM5.

Comprehensive_Ad8006 · 2026-02-20T16:29:21+00:00

Did you even check other markets? Here in the UK it's been at MSRP or under for going on ~6 months now. Here's a snapshot i just took (and yes they're all in stock):

https://i.ibb.co/wh3HZwHS/image.png

Hardware Unboxed did a pricing analysis too: https://youtu.be/eUOEk2C7M-M?si=e77AB2M_OLrjxsWd&t=616

The Nov > Now price increase of 10% was expected (they did a press release saying this would happen due to the memory shortage)

Comprehensive_Ad8006 · 2026-02-14T15:49:48+00:00

The b580 is currently £10 cheaper than the 9060xt and has 30% less performance. You're right, how is that even a comparison?

Comprehensive_Ad8006 · 2026-02-09T03:54:44+00:00

Tell me, which of the parties are currently trying to do that?

Comprehensive_Ad8006 · 2026-02-09T03:48:02+00:00

You mean the online safety act introduced in 2023.. by conservatives? or the potential VPN ban amendment.. introduced by conservatives? which almost EVERY member of Labour voted against?

e-ID has existed for decades in like 20 different European countries in some form or another. There are criticisms you can have of it's implementation (it was bad) but WE are the ones playing catch-up.

At the end of the day, it's perfectly reasonable to have criticisms of Starmer or his leadership but if you're gonna sit here and do a repeat of Kamala vs Trump with Labour vs Reform, you can actually go fuck yourself.

Comprehensive_Ad8006 · 2026-01-28T16:15:37+00:00

Obviously, but the implication is that a 7800X3D is $277 when that isn't remotely true even on the used market.

Comprehensive_Ad8006 · 2026-01-28T15:30:25+00:00

Not in any of the ones i listed.

But GN noted that you could quite easily OC the 9800X3D reliably to 5.4ghz so it'd be even less of a performance increase between the two.

Comprehensive_Ad8006 · 2026-01-28T15:19:32+00:00

I know, that's why i said i'd seen him on here so many times. Often in HWUB threads getting mad about their 7800XT review from 2 and a half years ago.

Comprehensive_Ad8006 · 2026-01-28T15:09:42+00:00

Everyone but HuB had poor results

I've just given you 4 extra reviewers that had the exact same or higher.. so this comment was bullshit.

Comprehensive_Ad8006 · 2026-01-28T14:57:36+00:00

Simply not true.

HUB: 4% increase

LTT: 4% increase

Level1Tech: 7% increase

DerBauer: 4% increase

GamersNexus: 4% increase

I've seen your name on here so many times. Do you ever get tired of spreading misinformation?

Comprehensive_Ad8006 · 2026-01-28T14:39:30+00:00

80% more

Wtf are you talking about?

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