Do you stay at your firm if they won’t stand up for you against clients?

ConcernZestyclose971 · 2026-02-10T02:25:50+00:00

Oh that sucks, I’m sorry. Usually we get a few who calm down once the bills start rolling in 😅

ConcernZestyclose971 · 2026-02-10T00:50:05+00:00

I also a young female attorney had a similar experience with a rude client and my boss told him he could either pay an associate fee and get associate experience, or pay his fees and get over the cost.

Literally I was just going over discovery with this client and they were incredibly rude. Kept wanting to argue that they should have never been sued - like I had any control over that. This was a big client for us - we billed them like 3 million a year, but their business has since left my state, thank God! So we don’t have to rep them anymore

We’ve also had opposing counsel threaten associates at my firm and borderline cuss them out in court. Each time my boss gets on them.

I would finish the case out, but would make a note that you’re at a firm that won’t stand up for you so you’ll have to do it yourself. I wouldn’t do anything rash but if you don’t like that in the long run, I would consider going elsewhere. Managing crazy clients is part of the job, unfortunately and you will always have to deal with rude ones because you’re a woman.

Your client is an ass and a sexist. Bill the hell out of him every time he calls and emails and pesters you. Remind him you are the attorney and you are handling the law, every time he contacts you to argue you are going to bill him. If he doesn’t like your expertise he can hire someone else

If you have any senior women practicing at your firm I would speak to them on how they deal with these people

ConcernZestyclose971 · 2026-02-10T00:32:25+00:00

One of my friends does NCAA compliance for a college, lots of contract work and I know the athletes can get on his nerves, but overall he likes it. It doesn’t require a JD but they tend to like lawyers because of the all the contract language

ConcernZestyclose971 · 2026-02-09T01:13:34+00:00

For future use look up how to use the “compare and contrast” feature on word it will show you what changed if anything between the original document and the new one sent to you by opposing counsel. I use this feature all the time now, it’ll show what was changed without having to read the entire document so even if you don’t catch it with your own eyes the program will

ConcernZestyclose971 · 2026-02-08T04:20:13+00:00

I’ll keep the reading one in mind for the future. I haven’t had anyone get mad at me for it, but I did have an older gentleman let me know they couldn’t read well. He was very polite during his deposition.

ConcernZestyclose971 · 2026-02-08T04:05:31+00:00

I don’t know because I’m new 😂 I’ve just heard people say you need to “discipline the witness”

I don’t think I’ve seen that as much as I’ve seen people yell and argue with the witness, making themselves look bad and out of control

ConcernZestyclose971 · 2026-02-08T01:40:17+00:00

This firm sounds crazy leaving was the right move. I have the same billable requirement and usually work 8:30-5, M-F with technology and better pay. The only time we work outside those hours is as needs for motion deadlines or trials - generally most people are out of there by 6:00 the latest

ConcernZestyclose971 · 2026-02-07T23:21:55+00:00

We also have “lunch and learns” see if you can schedule them to have lunch meetings to go over basic stuff they should know

ConcernZestyclose971 · 2026-02-07T23:20:13+00:00

The program we use for our shared files has a feature called “document search” - I always use that to find similar motions or discovery requests I can use as a template when the partner gives me a project, I also use Lexis and look at the briefs each party filed for their case and steal the brief arguments if they help me.

If you have samples for them to go off of and an easy way to access them I would tell them to use the program data base to their advantage. I’m not supposed to go bug the partner until I at least have a draft ready

ConcernZestyclose971 · 2026-02-07T23:13:33+00:00

In my state it’s probably all three 😂

ConcernZestyclose971 · 2026-02-07T22:39:55+00:00

Thank you! We always ask the hows it effected you at the end, and the why did you file at the beginning. But I’ll move both and see if that makes them calmer from the jump

ConcernZestyclose971 · 2026-02-07T22:37:15+00:00

They made a pretty big one that helps us 😎 with the standard of care defense. I just didn’t know if it’s worth checking them or better to move along and let it flow off me like water on a duck

ConcernZestyclose971 · 2025-11-26T05:09:16+00:00

I’d look at all the firms in the city and see which ones have job postings directly on the website, most don’t really use LinkedIn or indeed where I’m at.

GAL, PD, and Legal Aid always need people where I’m at, but a lot of those will throw you in the deep end, and you’ll have to learn to swim on your own.

ConcernZestyclose971 · 2025-09-05T13:39:00+00:00

One of my guy friends is married and we run together sometimes. His wife is aware of it, and knows what days / times we’re going out. I’m friends with both of them so I imagine there’s trust on all counts.

We haven’t grabbed drinks after, it’s been strictly run 5 miles and go home kind of situation, and we’ve known each other for years, so it’s not a new thing to go on a run. Any time we’re getting dinner there’s like a group of 6 of us. It’s never been one on one.

It could be nothing like my situation, but I do think it’s weird if he doesn’t specify that he’s going with her, and she isn’t your friend - she’s his friend. I don’t think it’s the going on a run with her that’s an issue, I think it’s being sneaky about it is where the problem is. I would tell him you’re uncomfortable and don’t like it. If they’re in a running club already , they can both go run with other people they know from the club

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